Re: Who is a Prophet? How do you tell the true from the False. Joshua in a Prophet's Lab: IS TB JOSHUA A FALSE PROPHET?

Aloysius

On this compeling one I agree with you intoto

The answer is NO

But Jesus prophesied things that came to happen. So if some one say
things that do not happen who is he that can make me believe him/she
to be a Prophet

He is a liar and the Heavenly father condemns a liar

Aaron

On 4/21/14, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you know any school where they train prophets?
> Do you know anyone who graduated from the University of Prophets?
> Did you call the prophet or the prophetess?
> Did you assign tasks to them?
> Are you their Master?
> Do they report to you?
> Listen, the prophets owe you neither explanations nor apologies but they
> execute tasks for the people of God everyday.
> Tasks that you cannot do.
> Listen, you are within your rights to believe in this or that prophet but
> the prophet that you do not believe in CANNOT help you and you are of no
> use to him.
> The Lord God is the Father of the prophets.
> He is a prophet.
> If you have faith in him; he can help you.
> If you do not believe in him that is okay.
> It is a free country.
> If you do not believe in this or that prophet, leave them alone.
> They are a blessing to those that believe in them.
> Pass all the judgement you want but see this, your success depends on a
> PROPHET.
>
> *2Ch 20:20 And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the
> wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said,
> Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your
> God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye
> prosper.*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Ofege Ntemfac
> <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Greetings.
>> About the most dangerous people on earth are the religious folks - the
>> various shades of Boko Haramists..
>> Religious people think they know what is in the Bible whereas they will
>> not show one Bible verse to back their claims.
>> At best they either take the Bible out of context or they run away with
>> half a Scripture to start a church.
>> Of course religious folks are very temperamental and judgemental as the
>> spirit of their father - the devil - moves in them and keeps them in
>> ignorance.
>> They would gladly kill you for tampering with their ignorance.
>> They will also kill you thinking that they are doing God a favour.
>> Now, with, or without your permission, I will start showing us what the
>> Bible actually says about most of the topics and themes that have been
>> misrepresented since some very courageous folks took upon themselves to
>> question a MAN UNDER ANOINTING.
>> Where would you stand when the Master stands up to defend his servant.
>> And he will.
>> I have already posted the relevant Scriptures concerning the Ministry of
>> the Prophet.
>> Permit me add the following.
>> All prophets are controversial.
>> The Lord God himself is controversial.
>> God is the Father of the prophets and as he is so are they in this world.
>> In fact, you are not a prophet worth his salt if you do not brew a
>> fearsome storm everyday.
>> The Lord Jesus is controversial.
>> Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, .Ezekiel, Yeshua, Oyedepo, TB Joshua,
>> Ntemfac Ofege....name anybody who wields the mantle of a prophet who does
>> not raise the devil and flog the devil wherever he is found.
>> The devil thrives and lives in ignorance.
>> And the devil keeps many ignorant..lest they discover themselves and cast
>> him out.
>> Religious people are held captive by the devil by their ignorance.
>> They would not take take to read what the Bible actually says but they
>> carry on and on making false claims.
>> But also know this...the prophets are never afraid of battle.
>> In fact, they are about the only breed of humans with the anoointing of
>> the horse very present.
>> The horse runs into the battle and the clash of arms excites the horse.
>> So too do the prophets 'buy every case' and move in to kick ass and take
>> names.
>> More Incoming.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Ofege Ntemfac
>> <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
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>>> *Who is a prophet? And how do I tell the difference between a true
>>> prophet and a false one?*
>>>
>>> [image: http://www.ngabo.org/offices/images/promoses.JPG]A Prophet is a
>>> mouth piece of God or spiritual pen of a ready writer (*psalm 45:1*)
>>> that God uses to write His perfect will on paper, in the earth, in the
>>> atmosphere and in the universe, and through the mouth of the prophet or
>>> the
>>> life (character) of the prophet, God begins to reveal, to speak, to
>>> mould,
>>> to structure, to instruct, to inspire, to impregnate (*2 Kings 4:16*)
>>> and to release images in the form of uttered words into the minds of
>>> people
>>> via a prophet or prophetess.
>>>
>>> *Hosea 2:10* says: Therefore I have hewn them by the prophets, the word
>>> hewn means; to conform, to fashion, to mould, to make or to design,
>>> *Hosea:
>>> 12:10* says: I have also spoken by the prophets, and have multiplied
>>> visions; I have given symbols through the witness of the prophets.
>>>
>>> *Revelation 19: 10* says:..For the testimony of Jesus Christ is the
>>> spirit of Prophecy.
>>>
>>> *John 6:63* says: the words I speak unto you are spirit (DNA, genetic
>>> code, God's offspring, prophecy, vision, or inheritance) and life.
>>>
>>> *Amos 3:7* says: Surely the Lord God does nothing, unless He reveals His
>>> secret to His servants the prophets.
>>>
>>> *Description of A false prophet*
>>>
>>> A prophet is some one that is called and chosen by God to speak, to
>>> deliver and to reveal God's will to others through his or her speech and
>>> life style. A prophet must be called and chosen by God (the choosing is
>>> something that was done by God even before this prophet came into the
>>> womb
>>> of her mother. as in *Jeremiah 1:5*).
>>>
>>> *Romans 11:21* says; for the calling and the gifts of God are
>>> irrevocable (unchangeable, irreversible), and because of this, the gift
>>> of
>>> a prophet can still function even though this prophet is not totally
>>> submitted under God's will, there are few examples that are given in the
>>> bible about the prophets and prophetesses who had their gift of prophecy
>>> working, but yet when they themselves were not living according to God's
>>> will, these are also known as the false prophets, prophet Balaam was one
>>> of
>>> them (*numbers 23:1-30*).
>>>
>>> I repeat; there are people who move in the calling of a prophet but yet
>>> when their lives are not clean or holy or dedicated to God, these
>>> prophets
>>> always prophecy about the things that people want to hear (things that
>>> justify the evil motives of the people's evil desires), through their
>>> prophecies and speech they focus more on the miracles that will fulfill
>>> the
>>> people's needs, rather than speaking the truth that will change their
>>> lives
>>> and confront their bad un holy behaviors, if they are men they are
>>> womanizes, and if they are women they are seductive.
>>>
>>> The strength that empowers the ministry of the false prophets is the
>>> spirit of sexual immorality, they promote it, they do not speak against
>>> it
>>> neither warn people about it, because they know that as long as the
>>> people
>>> are ignorant about sexual immorality, then they stand a big chance of
>>> being
>>> able to continue to manipulate them, control them and also exploit them.
>>>
>>> In *Numbers 31:16 & Numbers 25:1-3 *Balaam the false prophet gave advice
>>> to Balak after he had realized that he could not curse Israel because of
>>> God's blessing upon their lives, so he decided to tell Balam to send
>>> women
>>> (Moabite and midianite women) into the camp of Israel, and after these
>>> women had finished seducing them or committing adultery, fornication and
>>> sexual immorality with them, then you will be able to curse them
>>> (casting
>>> of spells and witchcraft will be able to work against them).
>>>
>>> The book of *Revelation 2:19-23* talks about Jezebel, a woman who
>>> seduced and corrupted God's church by making it eat things sacrificed to
>>> idols and commit sexual immorality.
>>>
>>> In *Revelation 19:20* a false prophet was speaking and out of his mouth
>>> came unclean words in the form of frogs which went out into the whole
>>> earth
>>> so that they may influence the kings and the leaders of the earth into
>>> doing evil and legalizing evil laws, and all these false prophets have
>>> one
>>> goal in common, and that is the purpose of using their mouth or gift of
>>> prophecy to curse, to corrupt, to manipulate, to control, and to pervert
>>> the people's character so that the human beings on the earth may live
>>> contrary to God's Commandments that are written in the old testament, an
>>> influence and behavior that leads to the hatred and opposition that goes
>>> against the Jewish nation, which contributes to the promotion of the
>>> spirit
>>> of anti-Semitism.
>>>
>>> *Description of the true prophets of God:*
>>>
>>> [image: http://www.ngabo.org/offices/images/prophets.JPG]A true prophet
>>> of God is someone who is moving under the calling of a prophet (speaking
>>> God's word or revelation in prophetic symbols, patterns, pictures, and
>>> visions and also living a life of restraint and obedience to the calling
>>> of
>>> his or her prophetic mantle, and through his obedience to his prophetic
>>> calling, he or she manages to relate and connect his own emotions,
>>> desires,
>>> feelings, and motives into God's perfect will (which also consists of
>>> God's
>>> emotions, feelings, desires and motives ),
>>>
>>> and through this divine connection and relationship, this prophet will
>>> begin to feel, to relate, and to have knowledge about God's judgments,
>>> plans, desires, and decisions that God has made in heaven concerning a
>>> certain group of people, city, nation or geographical location.
>>>
>>> There are different types of prophets, and each prophet is called to
>>> speak God's plan, to mould, to rebuke, and to relate the people's
>>> motives,
>>> habits and desires to the reality of God's apostolic structure that God
>>> is
>>> about to release through the apostolic grace, because every prophet has
>>> a
>>> spiritual assignment and responsibility of being a mouth piece that
>>> bears
>>> witness of the apostolic revival that God is about introduce into the
>>> world
>>> (John the Baptist bore witness and prepared the way for the apostolic
>>> ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ as in).
>>>
>>> Prophets are called to prepare the way (by redirecting the people's life
>>> style from the pattern or world system that makes them to behave
>>> selfish,
>>> so that they may be able to return to God's foundation and truth that is
>>> revealed and structured by the apostolic anointing).
>>>
>>> There are twelve apostles <http://www.ngabo.org/offices/apostles.htm>and
>>> twelve
>>> systems <http://www.ngabo.org/prophetic/12systems/main_12systems.htm> in
>>> the world, and each prophetic gift is spiritually designed to bear
>>> witness,
>>> to relate and to prophecy in a way that upholds and informs the world
>>> about
>>> the apostolic grace or system through which that prophetic gift that is
>>> prophesying was intended to function, in a simple explanation this means
>>> that;
>>>
>>> Every apostle <http://www.ngabo.org/offices/apostles.htm> (among the
>>> twelve apostles) is prophetically revealed, advertised and introduced to
>>> the world through the prophetic office, and after that the apostles are
>>> responsible of building the spiritual foundations of every gift or
>>> talent,
>>> and they are also responsible of introducing the world to the spiritual
>>> systematic move of God which is connected to the Jewish
>>> nation<http://www.ngabo.org/prophetic/ifitwasnotforthejews.htm>or the
>>> twelve tribes of Jacob's son called Israel.
>>>
>>> A true prophet of God always delivers a message to the people from God
>>> which brings conviction, and a strong desire or radical act of
>>> repentance
>>> that makes them repent from their own wicked ways so that they may turn
>>> back to God with all their heart, body, soul and strength, a message
>>> that
>>> brings the people from their comfort zone of compromise, bad behaviors,
>>> immoral acts of sexual immorality etc so that they may be able to relate
>>> their emotions and desires back to a God that is holy.
>>>
>>> *By: Apostle Ngabo*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Ofege Ntemfac
>>> <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Evelyn, as you so aptly put in there are 9 Gifts *FROM *the Holy Spirit
>>>> ie the gifts that it behooves the Lord God, by his grace, to bequeath
>>>> the
>>>> Christian ie those who believe in him and who, because of their belief
>>>> and
>>>> faith, have a RELATIONSHIP with him.
>>>> Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship between a Spirit
>>>> god and his spirit children who now live in the flesh but who are
>>>> actually
>>>> spirits. You worship God in truth and in spirit because God is a
>>>> Spirit.
>>>> In fact every Christian ought to know the number of spiritual gifts
>>>> they
>>>> have and covert or demand more from the El Elyon, the Giver, himself.
>>>> Those 9 spiritual gifts are, in order of merit:
>>>> 1. Lowest level - praying in tongues - interpreting tongues and
>>>> prophecy. The gift of prophecy does not make one a prophet because the
>>>> office of prophet is among the Five-fold ministries of the church. See
>>>> Ephesians 4:11. You can prophecy as the spirit gives you leading but if
>>>> you
>>>> are not a prophet you will sometimes err in prophecy.
>>>> 2. Middle Level - Faith - healing and miracles. Faith leads to the
>>>> other
>>>> two because Faith comes by hearing the voice of God. The Lord God
>>>> himself
>>>> tells you when to heal and what to do to heal.
>>>> 3. Word of knowledge, word of wisdom and discernment. The word of
>>>> knowledge is when the Lord God tells you to make extraordinary
>>>> revelations
>>>> and the word of wisdom is when the Lord God tells you to do
>>>> extraordinary
>>>> things. You just do them even if your spirit does not believe.
>>>> Discernment
>>>> is the ability to see with the eyes of faith. You see what is not
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Of course there are 7 spirits in the Holy Spirit
>>>> 1. Knowledge
>>>> 2. Wisdom
>>>> 3. Understanding
>>>> 4. Counsel
>>>> 5. Power or stamina or Prophecy
>>>> 6. Righteousness or moral rectitude
>>>> 7. Love of God.
>>>>
>>>> When I come back I will tell us who Prophets are and what they do.
>>>> Read I Corinthians 14:1-3
>>>> 1 Corinthians 14:1-3
>>>>
>>>> King James Version (KJV)
>>>>
>>>> 14 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye
>>>> may prophesy.
>>>>
>>>> 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but
>>>> unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he
>>>> speaketh
>>>> mysteries.
>>>>
>>>> 3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and
>>>> exhortation, and comfort.
>>>>
>>>> Prophets,among other things, basically 1. EDIFY 2. EXHORT and 3 COMFORT
>>>> the people of God.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Emmanuel Kongnyu
>>>> <emmakongnyu@yahoo.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Joshua in a Prophet's Lab: IS TB JOSHUA A FALSE PROPHET?*
>>>>> *By Nformi Emmanuel*
>>>>>
>>>>> *The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of
>>>>> Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and
>>>>> wonders.
>>>>> (2Thes.2: 9)*
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking a careful look at TB Joshua's "prophecy" concerning the
>>>>> Malaysian airline's Boeing 777 disappearance into thin air, in addition
>>>>> to
>>>>> the populace's holding that he is a divinely inspired prophet, one
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> escape the question whether he is a real (true) or fake. In attempting
>>>>> to
>>>>> x-ray a "man of God" in the order of the acclaimed Joshua one would
>>>>> have to
>>>>> think like Moses; if not in the totality of his liberation experience,
>>>>> at
>>>>> least in pinpointing his encounter with his other-side - Pharaoh's
>>>>> magicians. But even if we begin to think in that paradigm, we, again
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> exact prophecy with miracles, though Tb Joshua as well as many others,
>>>>> is
>>>>> accorded a prophets name particularly because of a vague and
>>>>> indistinguishable mix of both. Many a person have visited TB Joshua
>>>>> and
>>>>> returned with signs of relief yet some have come back regrets. The
>>>>> irony is
>>>>> that both results are thanks to the great prophet. Some, who dismiss
>>>>> his
>>>>> authenticity, do it at the touch-lines or within their religious
>>>>> spheres;
>>>>> hardly being just to what others call "firsthand experience" or
>>>>> "eyewitness". On the other hand, Christian fanatics of the nature of
>>>>> "later-day" Pentecostal "volcanizers" sweepingly glorify the prophet
>>>>> even
>>>>> without a peep under his table. These are those who jump, shout and
>>>>> hit
>>>>> walls at the mention of a single word of prayer before they discover
>>>>> that
>>>>> their "brother" was not actually in the mode of prayer. If we consider
>>>>> Prophecy in its ambiguous form we can only feel unworthy and
>>>>> unqualified to
>>>>> take the likes of Joshua into a prophet's Lab. This is because the
>>>>> process
>>>>> of deriving his authenticity is as difficult as choosing the right
>>>>> tools to
>>>>> do it. On the other hand, we can only compare something when we have in
>>>>> the
>>>>> other hand, another; imperfect or a perfect model.
>>>>> Having established that the laboratory check is not easy, I dare
>>>>> anyway, as a human being with a critical mind, to attempt such a
>>>>> mystical
>>>>> litmus test. Since it is a religious issue, I would use as primary
>>>>> tools,
>>>>> the Abrahamic religions from where we may be able to find out what
>>>>> constitutes authentic prophecy against which we may be able to compare
>>>>> TB
>>>>> Joshua. Before we go on, the most important statement I venture here
>>>>> is
>>>>> that the accuracy or the resultant of any prophecy is usually altered
>>>>> by
>>>>> the desires and attachments of the seers (prophets) and those who hear
>>>>> the
>>>>> prophecy. So what TB prophecies is not detached from his feelings and
>>>>> motives buried in his heart at the depth at which only God himself can
>>>>> reach. On the other hand, those of us who listen to him, hear only what
>>>>> we
>>>>> want to hear; those things which appeal to our emotional, physical,
>>>>> economic and spiritual hunger. These very drives are so strong that
>>>>> they
>>>>> blind us from reality even when wrong things are going on right under
>>>>> our
>>>>> noses. It was in this wise that Paul advised Timothy: *For the time
>>>>> will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to
>>>>> suit
>>>>> their desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers
>>>>> to
>>>>> say what their itching ears want to hear (2Tim. 4:3-4).* So we tend to
>>>>> be very careful in this Lab from what angle we peep into a Joshuan
>>>>> test
>>>>> tube - we may be regarded as unspiritual, and in extreme case,
>>>>> unbelieving
>>>>> and unsaved.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. *The Prophet's Identity*: One of the areas of conflict Jesus
>>>>> faced against the Jews and Jewish religious leaders was in the area of
>>>>> his
>>>>> authority. The Nazarenes had only known him as the son of Joseph - a
>>>>> common
>>>>> carpenter, assigning to him a human identity rather than the divine
>>>>> that
>>>>> they perceived. In answering to this rejection in his hometown, Jesus
>>>>> states: "*no prohet is accepted in his hometown*" (Lk 4:24), yet in
>>>>> asserting his authority he also states: *"All authority in heaven and
>>>>> on earth has been given to me" (Matt. 28:18*), in fulfillment of
>>>>> prophet Daniel (Dan. 7:13,14). Before and after Jesus Christ,
>>>>> prophesies
>>>>> and attempts thereof were a desirable concept yet the prophet's
>>>>> established
>>>>> credential was the bedrock of entrenched trust on its efficacy. In
>>>>> many
>>>>> cases it was rather dangerous and treacherous to attempt any form of
>>>>> prophecy without an appealing and readily acceptable identity.
>>>>> So we should be asking who is TB Joshua? Temitope Balogun Joshua was
>>>>> born on June 12th 1963, raised in an Anglican Christian conservative
>>>>> tradition, nicknamed "small Pastor" because of his love for the bible
>>>>> while
>>>>> in the primary school at St. Stephen Anglican School Arigidi; his home
>>>>> town
>>>>> in Nigeria(Critique on TB Joshua By Bill Subritsky). His official
>>>>> biography
>>>>> also tells that he spent 15months in his mother's womb instead of the
>>>>> normal 9months. In 1989, before he had his vision to begin his
>>>>> ministry, he
>>>>> had fasted for forty days and forty nights. Though these assertions
>>>>> have
>>>>> been disowned by many critics as his attempts to assuage to a mystical
>>>>> and
>>>>> fascinating identity, he on the other hand defends it with acclaimed
>>>>> and
>>>>> testified miraculous deeds. Therefore, "humanly" speaking, any
>>>>> verification
>>>>> on his identity does not in any way directly dethrone the prophet: he
>>>>> was
>>>>> raised in a Christian family, went to Christian schools, involved in
>>>>> Christian services, born mysteriously after a 15 month's gestation,
>>>>> fasted
>>>>> 40/40 in the likeness of Christ and then began a booming ministry.
>>>>> But wait a minute, he is not yet qualified just by presenting to us
>>>>> this identity because we are not divine to distinguish him from those
>>>>> who
>>>>> do the same things but who are not truly called by God as they claim.
>>>>> *For.....
>>>>> false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to
>>>>> deceive
>>>>> even the elect (Matt.24:24).* Here, when I was examining his identity,
>>>>> some things caught my attention: why is he concerned in emphasizing
>>>>> the
>>>>> nature of his birth, and how is it so important in his calling? Is he
>>>>> trying to compare it to the Virgin Birth of Jesus? Did he really fast
>>>>> for
>>>>> forty days and forty nights, and why specifically significantly 40/40?
>>>>> Could it not work with more or with less? Is he trying to reflect how
>>>>> Christ began His life and ministry to his? I am afraid that by
>>>>> insisting on
>>>>> a phenomenal change to establish a fascinating and mystical identity,
>>>>> he
>>>>> exhibits another diabolic characteristic of falsehood. No true Prophet
>>>>> of
>>>>> God derives a resemblance as if it were a burden to do so because God
>>>>> chooses or represents himself according to his unique purposes, and in
>>>>> times of his liking. When you see prophets trying to resemble others
>>>>> before
>>>>> them, they attract question marks against their profiles. Islam easily
>>>>> concludes that any prophet after Mohammed is false since the Koran
>>>>> teaches
>>>>> that he is the last of prophets *( Sura 9:128-129*), yet Christianity
>>>>> and other biblical religions hold to prophecy as a spiritual gift with
>>>>> which the universal church is unendingly blessed. More likely,
>>>>> contemporary truism as well as enormous falsehood finds itself
>>>>> enshrined in
>>>>> humanly unverifiable prophetic acts - acts appealing to the human
>>>>> condition
>>>>> in physical, emotional, psychological, social, economic, political etc,
>>>>> yet
>>>>> very forcefully magnetic in its delight.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. *The Prophet's Prophecy*: As a strategy for effective
>>>>> propagation, the postmodern religious evangels have tasked themselves
>>>>> to
>>>>> redesign religious messages into appealing and readily acceptable codes
>>>>> of
>>>>> actions-matching-words. This is because ears have also changed in
>>>>> their
>>>>> cognitive designs; to hear and apply. Yes, in this growing liberalism,
>>>>> ears
>>>>> can now choose what to hear according to individual human condition
>>>>> and
>>>>> need. My children are now questioning the relevance of Christianity and
>>>>> the
>>>>> Christian beliefs far more than I did to my parents.
>>>>> With this atmosphere, as God always addresses the needs of His people,
>>>>> the prophet's prophecy must also contain in full or in part, the
>>>>> problems
>>>>> facing society. There is therefore the question of Purpose: why is God
>>>>> revealing this prophecy to us at this time? Is it relevant or it just
>>>>> to
>>>>> adds to a false prophets embellishing list of deeds? Every prophet in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Abrahamic religions, prophesied in time. By this I mean that there was
>>>>> an
>>>>> immediate need to be addressed and it was directly relevant to those
>>>>> to
>>>>> whom it was being prophesied. Ecstasy and fantasy has overshadowed the
>>>>> postmodern prophetic shrines to the glory of the prophets. Because the
>>>>> world of humans craves for entertainment at the doorsteps of
>>>>> happiness,
>>>>> artists have arisen even from the ranks of the noble professions as
>>>>> Pastors
>>>>> and Prophets. Their garments are designed with the most captivating
>>>>> gabardines for public spectacle yet their under-wears have been smeared
>>>>> by
>>>>> bloods of hatred, corruption, gossip, selfishness, and all forms of
>>>>> gold-digging hunger.
>>>>> So now, what is the content of TB Joshua's Prophecies? How are they
>>>>> relevant to his immediate community in Nigeria, Africa, and then the
>>>>> world?
>>>>> Do they really come from God, and who really gets the Glory? The last
>>>>> time
>>>>> I checked, he was in the news about the Malaysian Flight 370. The
>>>>> other
>>>>> time was the death of an African President. I am not familiar with his
>>>>> local prophecies, but at least those local incidents that have had
>>>>> global
>>>>> hearings such as the Boko Haram incidents should have, at least
>>>>> onetime,
>>>>> mentioned any attachment to TB Joshua. The question is whether he is a
>>>>> ghost prophet to the realities of his birth land or it is God who is
>>>>> absent? Do not get me wrong; I clearly understand that his ministry is
>>>>> not
>>>>> only tied to prophecy and his prophecy as well not tied to Nigeria,
>>>>> but
>>>>> there are many Nigerian problems we are eager to hear how God is
>>>>> addressing
>>>>> them or how He is going to address. Such information can only come from
>>>>> a
>>>>> world-renown prophet like Joshua who from Nigeria sees as far as
>>>>> Malaysia,
>>>>> as high as thousands of miles into the sky, and deep as into
>>>>> presidencies
>>>>> and graves.
>>>>> Some Nigerians, and critics of TB Joshua lament that the prophet may
>>>>> be
>>>>> false or might have gradually been falsifying prophecy. In the likeness
>>>>> of
>>>>> those seeking glory to themselves rather than to God they argue; that
>>>>> he
>>>>> might have put on worldly, prosperity lenses which enable him to see
>>>>> far
>>>>> from Nigeria, self-gratifying incidents, yet which have at the same
>>>>> time
>>>>> blinded him to the real and compelling plights of the Nigerian people.
>>>>> How
>>>>> relevant was the prophecy of the President's death when in few weeks,
>>>>> Christian churches would be raided and hundreds of innocent souls
>>>>> snuffed
>>>>> by Boko Haram right from under the Prophet's nose? How relevant was
>>>>> the
>>>>> Prophecy of the Malaysian Airline when in about a month's time, more
>>>>> than
>>>>> 70 people will be killed by bombing in a Bus station in Abuja right at
>>>>> the
>>>>> front steps of the prophet's church? So they exclaim in desperation:
>>>>> "shut
>>>>> up your prophecies because they do not benefit us, rather they fan
>>>>> your
>>>>> popularity and inflate your pockets"!!! If such desperation is true,
>>>>> then
>>>>> they do not belong to God because in saying this to the prophet, they
>>>>> indirectly address God -and how dare you?
>>>>> In this Lab, we must also be able to do justice by pointing to
>>>>> powerful
>>>>> testimonies that we have received from those who have visited his
>>>>> shrine.
>>>>> We hear about those who have been cured of the dreaded HIV/AIDS, we
>>>>> hear of
>>>>> demons viciously cast, we hear of bareness reversed, we hear of blind
>>>>> seeing, we hear of lame walking, and even in an atmosphere where
>>>>> authenticity finds needle holes, we still credit him with such
>>>>> popularity.
>>>>> But more dangerous is that good deeds are not the finite mark of those
>>>>> who
>>>>> are God's *: Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the
>>>>> kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, lord, did we
>>>>> not
>>>>> prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform
>>>>> miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from
>>>>> me
>>>>> you evildoers' (Matt.7:21-23).*The rest is left to individual scrutiny
>>>>> and individual perception. Those who have a higher spirit of
>>>>> discernment
>>>>> will know for a fact that a prophet is false but the difficulty is
>>>>> that
>>>>> they would find it difficult to prove even if it was compelling and
>>>>> essential to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. *The Prophet's Prophecy of Truth:* How do we believe in a
>>>>> prophet if what he prophesies does not occur, and exactly as he did?
>>>>> One
>>>>> very confusing aspect of prophecy is that it is expressed in simple
>>>>> speech,
>>>>> sometime written in prose but begs to be interpreted as poetry. Its
>>>>> ambiguous nature, wrapped in mystery, offers interpreters a style-less
>>>>> dance of interpretation; opened after the event has happened, placing
>>>>> secondary interpreters in the category of critics. The prophet as the
>>>>> primary interpreter reserves the authority to dictate style; at such
>>>>> times
>>>>> at the advantage of his prognostics. If your Laboratory's aim was to
>>>>> find
>>>>> out whether his prophecy was an acid or a base, you won't come out with
>>>>> a
>>>>> Litmus' distinct color, yet the prophet will be the only one to say
>>>>> what he
>>>>> thinks he prophesied. This warps truth and frustrates clarity. Yet in
>>>>> a
>>>>> prophecy there are key aspects which must be exacted! What those key
>>>>> aspects are depends on the structure and content of the prophecy.
>>>>> Those
>>>>> prophecies encoded in meticulous details of emphatic numbers,
>>>>> locations,
>>>>> specific people and dates, face serious scrutiny risking falsehood.
>>>>> Those
>>>>> that are presented in general rhetoric stand better chances of being
>>>>> accepted; though on a plate of assumptions and pessimism.
>>>>> In the past, false prophecy was punishable by banishment and up to
>>>>> death (Deut.18:22). False prophets ventured unwisely with details and
>>>>> ended
>>>>> into death, but today false prophets have become so wise in their
>>>>> speculation work that they use multifaceted proverbs and idioms to
>>>>> express
>>>>> their predictions in order to dance around meaning in a ballroom of
>>>>> interpretation. This leaves critics with dissatisfactory meanings.
>>>>> Considering TB Joshua's latest Prophecy of the Malaysian Airline; he
>>>>> said
>>>>> it was going to be an Asian Country; the plane would be lost, in the
>>>>> sea,
>>>>> with people over 200 and because of impatience. These are key parts of
>>>>> his
>>>>> prophecy. Either anyone could have said something similar knowing that
>>>>> in a
>>>>> year's time something of that nature can happen, or he could have been
>>>>> more
>>>>> specific to name the country, the sea, the exact number of people, or
>>>>> the
>>>>> exact cause of the crash. By not doing this, he leaves for himself an
>>>>> escape valve if parts of the prophecy did not come true, and in
>>>>> addition,
>>>>> he can certainly twist parts to make a closer interpretation.
>>>>> Hence we are helpless because we cannot say the entire prophecy was
>>>>> untrue neither can we say that his prophecy was entirely exacting, but
>>>>> to
>>>>> his benefit as the prophet and the primary interpreter, he claims his
>>>>> is
>>>>> clear. Was he true? Yes. Was he false? Yes. Is he therefore a False
>>>>> prophet? Look at him from your own angle. *Dear friends, do not
>>>>> believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are
>>>>> from
>>>>> God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. They
>>>>> are
>>>>> from the world and they speak from the view point of the world and the
>>>>> world listens to them. (1John 4:1,5). Jesus also warns in Luke: "Woe to
>>>>> you
>>>>> when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated
>>>>> the
>>>>> false prophets" (Luke 6:26).*
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. *The Prophet's Shrine:* If you want to know what kind of
>>>>> prophet is before you, take a good look at his shrine. There are
>>>>> artifacts
>>>>> that represent the type of deity the prophet professes. But besides
>>>>> the
>>>>> nature of the shrine, there are servants and services; these are the
>>>>> hidden
>>>>> realities of the prophetic enterprise. Some churches are built like
>>>>> "church" but within their walls, activity very much is satanic. Some
>>>>> practice worship and praise, and a host of healing and exorcisms, but
>>>>> their
>>>>> motives and direction are diabolic. Some are "white garments", some
>>>>> are
>>>>> "Red Garments", but not all that glitters is gold!!!!! Some emphasize
>>>>> specific movements, signs, songs, sacred places. So if you don't
>>>>> derive
>>>>> some reason from artifacts, you can find something in the services.
>>>>> After TB Joshua's 40/40 fasting of 1989, he claimed that he had
>>>>> received a vision from God to commence his ministry. So he founded the
>>>>> Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN). Watch this name carefully
>>>>> because
>>>>> it was purposefully derived. *Synagogue*: a term derived from the
>>>>> Jewish tradition, denotes a "house of assembly" or a "House of Prayer"
>>>>> in
>>>>> both Greek and Hebrew languages; possibly emphasizing his Jewish
>>>>> lineage
>>>>> with Jesus Christ of Nazareth. *Church;* a term generated from
>>>>> Christo-centric religions denotes a place set apart for worship or a
>>>>> group
>>>>> of people who have the same beliefs; he wishes to stress that he is a
>>>>> branch of Christ. *All Nations* means that it is geographically,
>>>>> socially, economically and anthropologically unlimited; in the likeness
>>>>> of
>>>>> The Great Commission of Christ (Matt.28 19-20). The two words,
>>>>> Synagogue
>>>>> and Church have similar meaning, so why would he use such duplication
>>>>> in
>>>>> naming his ministry? Does it not sound like "Church Church of All
>>>>> Nations"?
>>>>> I want you to also watch at names of mushroom churches as you go
>>>>> through your streets in order to compare it with TB Joshua's. You
>>>>> would
>>>>> find that as many as there are churches popping up everywhere, their
>>>>> Prophets or Pastors strive to create names that are appealing to
>>>>> membership. "God Alone Church of Christ", "New Emmanuel Assembly",
>>>>> "First
>>>>> Holy Church of God" etc. These names serve a personal business purpose,
>>>>> but
>>>>> they are disguised in garments of righteousness and evangelism, always
>>>>> depicting a seemingly Christly and Godly motive. Jesus Himself
>>>>> warned*:
>>>>> "watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
>>>>> but
>>>>> inwardly they are ferocious wolves" (Matt.7:15)* On the contrary, walk
>>>>> through your streets and check whether any Mosque carries such
>>>>> embellishments. Check in your typical African village for real
>>>>> traditional
>>>>> shrines whether you would find a sign post. Instead, I have witnessed
>>>>> a
>>>>> trend, fake traditional healers leave their villages, move into cities
>>>>> where no one knows them, make a sign post and declare that they are
>>>>> great
>>>>> healers and prophets. They prey on the innocent, and the desperate.
>>>>> Not
>>>>> all who place sign posts and cumbersome names to their churches or
>>>>> shrines
>>>>> are fake, but we are also able to watch that such businesses of fake
>>>>> shrines and churches have proliferated and infiltrated the economy.
>>>>> Attached to prosperity gospel people have now commercialized God to
>>>>> their
>>>>> glories. While some, through divine interventions have come out to
>>>>> testify
>>>>> of their misdeeds, some certainly await their doomsday; in this life or
>>>>> in
>>>>> the hereafter.
>>>>> It has been observed that TB Johua's Church business is a
>>>>> multi-million
>>>>> dollar business, pulling visitors from all over the world (All
>>>>> Nations). He
>>>>> employs enough personnel to handle services. He constructed buildings
>>>>> to
>>>>> host both long term and short term visitors. In fact it is a system
>>>>> that is
>>>>> self-governing and self-sustaining to be self-propagating. In the sense
>>>>> of
>>>>> "synagogue" they have constructed centers in other places in the world,
>>>>> but
>>>>> they only channel proceeds or fame to the center and TB Joshua in
>>>>> Nigeria.
>>>>> So until he probably dies, you will not hear of another renowned
>>>>> prophet in
>>>>> his church apart from him. Can this behavior make us conclude that he
>>>>> may
>>>>> just be one of those prophets who want to glorify themselves by using
>>>>> God's
>>>>> Name? The reality with TB Joshua's business is that his has been
>>>>> recognized
>>>>> by Nigerian Ministry of Tourism to constitute a very vital element,
>>>>> and
>>>>> therefore deserves not only a tax-exempt status, but also some form of
>>>>> subventions. Hence in 2010, *Weekly Trust*, a Nigerian news paper
>>>>> noted that *Tourism Has a Spiritual Face Too* while mentioning the
>>>>> impact of TB Joshua's ministry to Nigerian Tourism. By 2013, *The
>>>>> Guardian Newspaper UK,* in reference to *Nigeria Daily,* reported that
>>>>> The SCOAN attracts more weekly attendees than the combined number of
>>>>> visitors to Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London.
>>>>> Such prosperity does not directly make a ministry false but it can
>>>>> shed
>>>>> light to how an evil system may be operating in the realm of the real.
>>>>> Go
>>>>> closer and find out where the money comes from and where it goes. Watch
>>>>> how
>>>>> the prophet is securing his position and fame. Discover how he
>>>>> consciously
>>>>> designs programs and services. Listen how he carefully chooses his
>>>>> verbs.
>>>>> Watch how he verbally directs worship to God but wishes in actions that
>>>>> all
>>>>> worship be directed to him.
>>>>> If you followed me into this laboratory with the expectation that
>>>>> specific result would be achieved, by now you must have been somehow
>>>>> disappointed. I may be more disappointed than you given that I was
>>>>> personally expectant. We all have the spirit to discern as
>>>>> individuals,
>>>>> though God gives discernment as a special gift to certain individuals.
>>>>> But
>>>>> spiritual matters cannot be tested or proven simply by physical means.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> therefore unfortunate that we went into a wrong laboratory. But at
>>>>> least we
>>>>> achieved spiritual enlightenment and at the human level, the critic's
>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>> To conclude let me attempt to prophesy: If TB Joshua is a false
>>>>> prophet, he will be exposed soon, but if he is a true prophet, he will
>>>>> be
>>>>> exalted. It is just a matter of time! This is a world where almost
>>>>> every
>>>>> prognostic is believed to be a prophesy; if I am not mistaking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nformi Emmanuel
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