Re: Who is a Prophet? How do you tell the true from the False. Joshua in a Prophet's Lab: IS TB JOSHUA A FALSE PROPHET?

Aloysius

Prophets are figures who remind the people the best of traditions and
point out how the people have strayed.

On that score, TB Joshua cannot be a Prophet. Period

Aaron

On 4/21/14, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings.
> About the most dangerous people on earth are the religious folks - the
> various shades of Boko Haramists..
> Religious people think they know what is in the Bible whereas they will not
> show one Bible verse to back their claims.
> At best they either take the Bible out of context or they run away with
> half a Scripture to start a church.
> Of course religious folks are very temperamental and judgemental as the
> spirit of their father - the devil - moves in them and keeps them in
> ignorance.
> They would gladly kill you for tampering with their ignorance.
> They will also kill you thinking that they are doing God a favour.
> Now, with, or without your permission, I will start showing us what the
> Bible actually says about most of the topics and themes that have been
> misrepresented since some very courageous folks took upon themselves to
> question a MAN UNDER ANOINTING.
> Where would you stand when the Master stands up to defend his servant.
> And he will.
> I have already posted the relevant Scriptures concerning the Ministry of
> the Prophet.
> Permit me add the following.
> All prophets are controversial.
> The Lord God himself is controversial.
> God is the Father of the prophets and as he is so are they in this world.
> In fact, you are not a prophet worth his salt if you do not brew a fearsome
> storm everyday.
> The Lord Jesus is controversial.
> Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, .Ezekiel, Yeshua, Oyedepo, TB Joshua,
> Ntemfac Ofege....name anybody who wields the mantle of a prophet who does
> not raise the devil and flog the devil wherever he is found.
> The devil thrives and lives in ignorance.
> And the devil keeps many ignorant..lest they discover themselves and cast
> him out.
> Religious people are held captive by the devil by their ignorance.
> They would not take take to read what the Bible actually says but they
> carry on and on making false claims.
> But also know this...the prophets are never afraid of battle.
> In fact, they are about the only breed of humans with the anoointing of the
> horse very present.
> The horse runs into the battle and the clash of arms excites the horse.
> So too do the prophets 'buy every case' and move in to kick ass and take
> names.
> More Incoming.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Ofege Ntemfac
> <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> *Who is a prophet? And how do I tell the difference between a true
>> prophet and a false one?*
>>
>> [image: http://www.ngabo.org/offices/images/promoses.JPG]A Prophet is a
>> mouth piece of God or spiritual pen of a ready writer (*psalm 45:1*) that
>> God uses to write His perfect will on paper, in the earth, in the
>> atmosphere and in the universe, and through the mouth of the prophet or
>> the
>> life (character) of the prophet, God begins to reveal, to speak, to
>> mould,
>> to structure, to instruct, to inspire, to impregnate (*2 Kings 4:16*) and
>> to release images in the form of uttered words into the minds of people
>> via
>> a prophet or prophetess.
>>
>> *Hosea 2:10* says: Therefore I have hewn them by the prophets, the word
>> hewn means; to conform, to fashion, to mould, to make or to design,
>> *Hosea:
>> 12:10* says: I have also spoken by the prophets, and have multiplied
>> visions; I have given symbols through the witness of the prophets.
>>
>> *Revelation 19: 10* says:..For the testimony of Jesus Christ is the
>> spirit of Prophecy.
>>
>> *John 6:63* says: the words I speak unto you are spirit (DNA, genetic
>> code, God's offspring, prophecy, vision, or inheritance) and life.
>>
>> *Amos 3:7* says: Surely the Lord God does nothing, unless He reveals His
>> secret to His servants the prophets.
>>
>> *Description of A false prophet*
>>
>> A prophet is some one that is called and chosen by God to speak, to
>> deliver and to reveal God's will to others through his or her speech and
>> life style. A prophet must be called and chosen by God (the choosing is
>> something that was done by God even before this prophet came into the
>> womb
>> of her mother. as in *Jeremiah 1:5*).
>>
>> *Romans 11:21* says; for the calling and the gifts of God are irrevocable
>> (unchangeable, irreversible), and because of this, the gift of a prophet
>> can still function even though this prophet is not totally submitted
>> under
>> God's will, there are few examples that are given in the bible about the
>> prophets and prophetesses who had their gift of prophecy working, but yet
>> when they themselves were not living according to God's will, these are
>> also known as the false prophets, prophet Balaam was one of them
>> (*numbers
>> 23:1-30*).
>>
>> I repeat; there are people who move in the calling of a prophet but yet
>> when their lives are not clean or holy or dedicated to God, these
>> prophets
>> always prophecy about the things that people want to hear (things that
>> justify the evil motives of the people's evil desires), through their
>> prophecies and speech they focus more on the miracles that will fulfill
>> the
>> people's needs, rather than speaking the truth that will change their
>> lives
>> and confront their bad un holy behaviors, if they are men they are
>> womanizes, and if they are women they are seductive.
>>
>> The strength that empowers the ministry of the false prophets is the
>> spirit of sexual immorality, they promote it, they do not speak against
>> it
>> neither warn people about it, because they know that as long as the
>> people
>> are ignorant about sexual immorality, then they stand a big chance of
>> being
>> able to continue to manipulate them, control them and also exploit them.
>>
>> In *Numbers 31:16 & Numbers 25:1-3 *Balaam the false prophet gave advice
>> to Balak after he had realized that he could not curse Israel because of
>> God's blessing upon their lives, so he decided to tell Balam to send
>> women
>> (Moabite and midianite women) into the camp of Israel, and after these
>> women had finished seducing them or committing adultery, fornication and
>> sexual immorality with them, then you will be able to curse them (casting
>> of spells and witchcraft will be able to work against them).
>>
>> The book of *Revelation 2:19-23* talks about Jezebel, a woman who seduced
>> and corrupted God's church by making it eat things sacrificed to idols
>> and
>> commit sexual immorality.
>>
>> In *Revelation 19:20* a false prophet was speaking and out of his mouth
>> came unclean words in the form of frogs which went out into the whole
>> earth
>> so that they may influence the kings and the leaders of the earth into
>> doing evil and legalizing evil laws, and all these false prophets have
>> one
>> goal in common, and that is the purpose of using their mouth or gift of
>> prophecy to curse, to corrupt, to manipulate, to control, and to pervert
>> the people's character so that the human beings on the earth may live
>> contrary to God's Commandments that are written in the old testament, an
>> influence and behavior that leads to the hatred and opposition that goes
>> against the Jewish nation, which contributes to the promotion of the
>> spirit
>> of anti-Semitism.
>>
>> *Description of the true prophets of God:*
>>
>> [image: http://www.ngabo.org/offices/images/prophets.JPG]A true prophet
>> of God is someone who is moving under the calling of a prophet (speaking
>> God's word or revelation in prophetic symbols, patterns, pictures, and
>> visions and also living a life of restraint and obedience to the calling
>> of
>> his or her prophetic mantle, and through his obedience to his prophetic
>> calling, he or she manages to relate and connect his own emotions,
>> desires,
>> feelings, and motives into God's perfect will (which also consists of
>> God's
>> emotions, feelings, desires and motives ),
>>
>> and through this divine connection and relationship, this prophet will
>> begin to feel, to relate, and to have knowledge about God's judgments,
>> plans, desires, and decisions that God has made in heaven concerning a
>> certain group of people, city, nation or geographical location.
>>
>> There are different types of prophets, and each prophet is called to
>> speak
>> God's plan, to mould, to rebuke, and to relate the people's motives,
>> habits
>> and desires to the reality of God's apostolic structure that God is about
>> to release through the apostolic grace, because every prophet has a
>> spiritual assignment and responsibility of being a mouth piece that bears
>> witness of the apostolic revival that God is about introduce into the
>> world
>> (John the Baptist bore witness and prepared the way for the apostolic
>> ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ as in).
>>
>> Prophets are called to prepare the way (by redirecting the people's life
>> style from the pattern or world system that makes them to behave selfish,
>> so that they may be able to return to God's foundation and truth that is
>> revealed and structured by the apostolic anointing).
>>
>> There are twelve apostles <http://www.ngabo.org/offices/apostles.htm> and
>> twelve
>> systems <http://www.ngabo.org/prophetic/12systems/main_12systems.htm> in
>> the world, and each prophetic gift is spiritually designed to bear
>> witness,
>> to relate and to prophecy in a way that upholds and informs the world
>> about
>> the apostolic grace or system through which that prophetic gift that is
>> prophesying was intended to function, in a simple explanation this means
>> that;
>>
>> Every apostle <http://www.ngabo.org/offices/apostles.htm> (among the
>> twelve apostles) is prophetically revealed, advertised and introduced to
>> the world through the prophetic office, and after that the apostles are
>> responsible of building the spiritual foundations of every gift or
>> talent,
>> and they are also responsible of introducing the world to the spiritual
>> systematic move of God which is connected to the Jewish
>> nation<http://www.ngabo.org/prophetic/ifitwasnotforthejews.htm>or the
>> twelve tribes of Jacob's son called Israel.
>>
>> A true prophet of God always delivers a message to the people from God
>> which brings conviction, and a strong desire or radical act of repentance
>> that makes them repent from their own wicked ways so that they may turn
>> back to God with all their heart, body, soul and strength, a message that
>> brings the people from their comfort zone of compromise, bad behaviors,
>> immoral acts of sexual immorality etc so that they may be able to relate
>> their emotions and desires back to a God that is holy.
>>
>> *By: Apostle Ngabo*
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Ofege Ntemfac
>> <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Evelyn, as you so aptly put in there are 9 Gifts *FROM *the Holy Spirit
>>> ie the gifts that it behooves the Lord God, by his grace, to bequeath
>>> the
>>> Christian ie those who believe in him and who, because of their belief
>>> and
>>> faith, have a RELATIONSHIP with him.
>>> Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship between a Spirit
>>> god
>>> and his spirit children who now live in the flesh but who are actually
>>> spirits. You worship God in truth and in spirit because God is a Spirit.
>>> In fact every Christian ought to know the number of spiritual gifts they
>>> have and covert or demand more from the El Elyon, the Giver, himself.
>>> Those 9 spiritual gifts are, in order of merit:
>>> 1. Lowest level - praying in tongues - interpreting tongues and
>>> prophecy.
>>> The gift of prophecy does not make one a prophet because the office of
>>> prophet is among the Five-fold ministries of the church. See Ephesians
>>> 4:11. You can prophecy as the spirit gives you leading but if you are not
>>> a
>>> prophet you will sometimes err in prophecy.
>>> 2. Middle Level - Faith - healing and miracles. Faith leads to the other
>>> two because Faith comes by hearing the voice of God. The Lord God
>>> himself
>>> tells you when to heal and what to do to heal.
>>> 3. Word of knowledge, word of wisdom and discernment. The word of
>>> knowledge is when the Lord God tells you to make extraordinary
>>> revelations
>>> and the word of wisdom is when the Lord God tells you to do
>>> extraordinary
>>> things. You just do them even if your spirit does not believe.
>>> Discernment
>>> is the ability to see with the eyes of faith. You see what is not there.
>>>
>>> Of course there are 7 spirits in the Holy Spirit
>>> 1. Knowledge
>>> 2. Wisdom
>>> 3. Understanding
>>> 4. Counsel
>>> 5. Power or stamina or Prophecy
>>> 6. Righteousness or moral rectitude
>>> 7. Love of God.
>>>
>>> When I come back I will tell us who Prophets are and what they do.
>>> Read I Corinthians 14:1-3
>>> 1 Corinthians 14:1-3
>>>
>>> King James Version (KJV)
>>>
>>> 14 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye
>>> may prophesy.
>>>
>>> 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but
>>> unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he
>>> speaketh
>>> mysteries.
>>>
>>> 3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and
>>> exhortation, and comfort.
>>>
>>> Prophets,among other things, basically 1. EDIFY 2. EXHORT and 3 COMFORT
>>> the people of God.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Emmanuel Kongnyu
>>> <emmakongnyu@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Joshua in a Prophet's Lab: IS TB JOSHUA A FALSE PROPHET?*
>>>> *By Nformi Emmanuel*
>>>>
>>>> *The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of
>>>> Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and
>>>> wonders.
>>>> (2Thes.2: 9)*
>>>>
>>>> Taking a careful look at TB Joshua's "prophecy" concerning the
>>>> Malaysian
>>>> airline's Boeing 777 disappearance into thin air, in addition to the
>>>> populace's holding that he is a divinely inspired prophet, one cannot
>>>> escape the question whether he is a real (true) or fake. In attempting
>>>> to
>>>> x-ray a "man of God" in the order of the acclaimed Joshua one would have
>>>> to
>>>> think like Moses; if not in the totality of his liberation experience,
>>>> at
>>>> least in pinpointing his encounter with his other-side - Pharaoh's
>>>> magicians. But even if we begin to think in that paradigm, we, again
>>>> cannot
>>>> exact prophecy with miracles, though Tb Joshua as well as many others,
>>>> is
>>>> accorded a prophets name particularly because of a vague and
>>>> indistinguishable mix of both. Many a person have visited TB Joshua and
>>>> returned with signs of relief yet some have come back regrets. The irony
>>>> is
>>>> that both results are thanks to the great prophet. Some, who dismiss
>>>> his
>>>> authenticity, do it at the touch-lines or within their religious
>>>> spheres;
>>>> hardly being just to what others call "firsthand experience" or
>>>> "eyewitness". On the other hand, Christian fanatics of the nature of
>>>> "later-day" Pentecostal "volcanizers" sweepingly glorify the prophet
>>>> even
>>>> without a peep under his table. These are those who jump, shout and hit
>>>> walls at the mention of a single word of prayer before they discover
>>>> that
>>>> their "brother" was not actually in the mode of prayer. If we consider
>>>> Prophecy in its ambiguous form we can only feel unworthy and unqualified
>>>> to
>>>> take the likes of Joshua into a prophet's Lab. This is because the
>>>> process
>>>> of deriving his authenticity is as difficult as choosing the right tools
>>>> to
>>>> do it. On the other hand, we can only compare something when we have in
>>>> the
>>>> other hand, another; imperfect or a perfect model.
>>>> Having established that the laboratory check is not easy, I dare
>>>> anyway,
>>>> as a human being with a critical mind, to attempt such a mystical
>>>> litmus
>>>> test. Since it is a religious issue, I would use as primary tools, the
>>>> Abrahamic religions from where we may be able to find out what
>>>> constitutes
>>>> authentic prophecy against which we may be able to compare TB Joshua.
>>>> Before we go on, the most important statement I venture here is that
>>>> the
>>>> accuracy or the resultant of any prophecy is usually altered by the
>>>> desires
>>>> and attachments of the seers (prophets) and those who hear the prophecy.
>>>> So
>>>> what TB prophecies is not detached from his feelings and motives buried
>>>> in
>>>> his heart at the depth at which only God himself can reach. On the
>>>> other
>>>> hand, those of us who listen to him, hear only what we want to hear;
>>>> those
>>>> things which appeal to our emotional, physical, economic and spiritual
>>>> hunger. These very drives are so strong that they blind us from reality
>>>> even when wrong things are going on right under our noses. It was in
>>>> this
>>>> wise that Paul advised Timothy: *For the time will come when men will
>>>> not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their desires, they
>>>> will
>>>> gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching
>>>> ears want to hear (2Tim. 4:3-4).* So we tend to be very careful in this
>>>> Lab from what angle we peep into a Joshuan test tube - we may be
>>>> regarded
>>>> as unspiritual, and in extreme case, unbelieving and unsaved.
>>>>
>>>> 1. *The Prophet's Identity*: One of the areas of conflict Jesus
>>>> faced against the Jews and Jewish religious leaders was in the area of
>>>> his
>>>> authority. The Nazarenes had only known him as the son of Joseph - a
>>>> common
>>>> carpenter, assigning to him a human identity rather than the divine
>>>> that
>>>> they perceived. In answering to this rejection in his hometown, Jesus
>>>> states: "*no prohet is accepted in his hometown*" (Lk 4:24), yet in
>>>> asserting his authority he also states: *"All authority in heaven and
>>>> on earth has been given to me" (Matt. 28:18*), in fulfillment of
>>>> prophet Daniel (Dan. 7:13,14). Before and after Jesus Christ,
>>>> prophesies
>>>> and attempts thereof were a desirable concept yet the prophet's
>>>> established
>>>> credential was the bedrock of entrenched trust on its efficacy. In many
>>>> cases it was rather dangerous and treacherous to attempt any form of
>>>> prophecy without an appealing and readily acceptable identity.
>>>> So we should be asking who is TB Joshua? Temitope Balogun Joshua was
>>>> born on June 12th 1963, raised in an Anglican Christian conservative
>>>> tradition, nicknamed "small Pastor" because of his love for the bible
>>>> while
>>>> in the primary school at St. Stephen Anglican School Arigidi; his home
>>>> town
>>>> in Nigeria(Critique on TB Joshua By Bill Subritsky). His official
>>>> biography
>>>> also tells that he spent 15months in his mother's womb instead of the
>>>> normal 9months. In 1989, before he had his vision to begin his ministry,
>>>> he
>>>> had fasted for forty days and forty nights. Though these assertions
>>>> have
>>>> been disowned by many critics as his attempts to assuage to a mystical
>>>> and
>>>> fascinating identity, he on the other hand defends it with acclaimed
>>>> and
>>>> testified miraculous deeds. Therefore, "humanly" speaking, any
>>>> verification
>>>> on his identity does not in any way directly dethrone the prophet: he
>>>> was
>>>> raised in a Christian family, went to Christian schools, involved in
>>>> Christian services, born mysteriously after a 15 month's gestation,
>>>> fasted
>>>> 40/40 in the likeness of Christ and then began a booming ministry.
>>>> But wait a minute, he is not yet qualified just by presenting to us
>>>> this identity because we are not divine to distinguish him from those
>>>> who
>>>> do the same things but who are not truly called by God as they claim.
>>>> *For.....
>>>> false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to
>>>> deceive
>>>> even the elect (Matt.24:24).* Here, when I was examining his identity,
>>>> some things caught my attention: why is he concerned in emphasizing the
>>>> nature of his birth, and how is it so important in his calling? Is he
>>>> trying to compare it to the Virgin Birth of Jesus? Did he really fast
>>>> for
>>>> forty days and forty nights, and why specifically significantly 40/40?
>>>> Could it not work with more or with less? Is he trying to reflect how
>>>> Christ began His life and ministry to his? I am afraid that by insisting
>>>> on
>>>> a phenomenal change to establish a fascinating and mystical identity,
>>>> he
>>>> exhibits another diabolic characteristic of falsehood. No true Prophet
>>>> of
>>>> God derives a resemblance as if it were a burden to do so because God
>>>> chooses or represents himself according to his unique purposes, and in
>>>> times of his liking. When you see prophets trying to resemble others
>>>> before
>>>> them, they attract question marks against their profiles. Islam easily
>>>> concludes that any prophet after Mohammed is false since the Koran
>>>> teaches
>>>> that he is the last of prophets *( Sura 9:128-129*), yet Christianity
>>>> and other biblical religions hold to prophecy as a spiritual gift with
>>>> which the universal church is unendingly blessed. More likely,
>>>> contemporary truism as well as enormous falsehood finds itself enshrined
>>>> in
>>>> humanly unverifiable prophetic acts - acts appealing to the human
>>>> condition
>>>> in physical, emotional, psychological, social, economic, political etc,
>>>> yet
>>>> very forcefully magnetic in its delight.
>>>>
>>>> 2. *The Prophet's Prophecy*: As a strategy for effective
>>>> propagation, the postmodern religious evangels have tasked themselves
>>>> to
>>>> redesign religious messages into appealing and readily acceptable codes
>>>> of
>>>> actions-matching-words. This is because ears have also changed in their
>>>> cognitive designs; to hear and apply. Yes, in this growing liberalism,
>>>> ears
>>>> can now choose what to hear according to individual human condition and
>>>> need. My children are now questioning the relevance of Christianity and
>>>> the
>>>> Christian beliefs far more than I did to my parents.
>>>> With this atmosphere, as God always addresses the needs of His people,
>>>> the prophet's prophecy must also contain in full or in part, the
>>>> problems
>>>> facing society. There is therefore the question of Purpose: why is God
>>>> revealing this prophecy to us at this time? Is it relevant or it just
>>>> to
>>>> adds to a false prophets embellishing list of deeds? Every prophet in
>>>> the
>>>> Abrahamic religions, prophesied in time. By this I mean that there was
>>>> an
>>>> immediate need to be addressed and it was directly relevant to those to
>>>> whom it was being prophesied. Ecstasy and fantasy has overshadowed the
>>>> postmodern prophetic shrines to the glory of the prophets. Because the
>>>> world of humans craves for entertainment at the doorsteps of happiness,
>>>> artists have arisen even from the ranks of the noble professions as
>>>> Pastors
>>>> and Prophets. Their garments are designed with the most captivating
>>>> gabardines for public spectacle yet their under-wears have been smeared
>>>> by
>>>> bloods of hatred, corruption, gossip, selfishness, and all forms of
>>>> gold-digging hunger.
>>>> So now, what is the content of TB Joshua's Prophecies? How are they
>>>> relevant to his immediate community in Nigeria, Africa, and then the
>>>> world?
>>>> Do they really come from God, and who really gets the Glory? The last
>>>> time
>>>> I checked, he was in the news about the Malaysian Flight 370. The other
>>>> time was the death of an African President. I am not familiar with his
>>>> local prophecies, but at least those local incidents that have had
>>>> global
>>>> hearings such as the Boko Haram incidents should have, at least
>>>> onetime,
>>>> mentioned any attachment to TB Joshua. The question is whether he is a
>>>> ghost prophet to the realities of his birth land or it is God who is
>>>> absent? Do not get me wrong; I clearly understand that his ministry is
>>>> not
>>>> only tied to prophecy and his prophecy as well not tied to Nigeria, but
>>>> there are many Nigerian problems we are eager to hear how God is
>>>> addressing
>>>> them or how He is going to address. Such information can only come from
>>>> a
>>>> world-renown prophet like Joshua who from Nigeria sees as far as
>>>> Malaysia,
>>>> as high as thousands of miles into the sky, and deep as into
>>>> presidencies
>>>> and graves.
>>>> Some Nigerians, and critics of TB Joshua lament that the prophet may be
>>>> false or might have gradually been falsifying prophecy. In the likeness
>>>> of
>>>> those seeking glory to themselves rather than to God they argue; that
>>>> he
>>>> might have put on worldly, prosperity lenses which enable him to see
>>>> far
>>>> from Nigeria, self-gratifying incidents, yet which have at the same
>>>> time
>>>> blinded him to the real and compelling plights of the Nigerian people.
>>>> How
>>>> relevant was the prophecy of the President's death when in few weeks,
>>>> Christian churches would be raided and hundreds of innocent souls
>>>> snuffed
>>>> by Boko Haram right from under the Prophet's nose? How relevant was the
>>>> Prophecy of the Malaysian Airline when in about a month's time, more
>>>> than
>>>> 70 people will be killed by bombing in a Bus station in Abuja right at
>>>> the
>>>> front steps of the prophet's church? So they exclaim in desperation:
>>>> "shut
>>>> up your prophecies because they do not benefit us, rather they fan your
>>>> popularity and inflate your pockets"!!! If such desperation is true,
>>>> then
>>>> they do not belong to God because in saying this to the prophet, they
>>>> indirectly address God -and how dare you?
>>>> In this Lab, we must also be able to do justice by pointing to powerful
>>>> testimonies that we have received from those who have visited his
>>>> shrine.
>>>> We hear about those who have been cured of the dreaded HIV/AIDS, we hear
>>>> of
>>>> demons viciously cast, we hear of bareness reversed, we hear of blind
>>>> seeing, we hear of lame walking, and even in an atmosphere where
>>>> authenticity finds needle holes, we still credit him with such
>>>> popularity.
>>>> But more dangerous is that good deeds are not the finite mark of those
>>>> who
>>>> are God's *: Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the
>>>> kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, lord, did we
>>>> not
>>>> prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform
>>>> miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from
>>>> me
>>>> you evildoers' (Matt.7:21-23).*The rest is left to individual scrutiny
>>>> and individual perception. Those who have a higher spirit of
>>>> discernment
>>>> will know for a fact that a prophet is false but the difficulty is that
>>>> they would find it difficult to prove even if it was compelling and
>>>> essential to do so.
>>>>
>>>> 3. *The Prophet's Prophecy of Truth:* How do we believe in a
>>>> prophet if what he prophesies does not occur, and exactly as he did?
>>>> One
>>>> very confusing aspect of prophecy is that it is expressed in simple
>>>> speech,
>>>> sometime written in prose but begs to be interpreted as poetry. Its
>>>> ambiguous nature, wrapped in mystery, offers interpreters a style-less
>>>> dance of interpretation; opened after the event has happened, placing
>>>> secondary interpreters in the category of critics. The prophet as the
>>>> primary interpreter reserves the authority to dictate style; at such
>>>> times
>>>> at the advantage of his prognostics. If your Laboratory's aim was to
>>>> find
>>>> out whether his prophecy was an acid or a base, you won't come out with
>>>> a
>>>> Litmus' distinct color, yet the prophet will be the only one to say what
>>>> he
>>>> thinks he prophesied. This warps truth and frustrates clarity. Yet in a
>>>> prophecy there are key aspects which must be exacted! What those key
>>>> aspects are depends on the structure and content of the prophecy. Those
>>>> prophecies encoded in meticulous details of emphatic numbers,
>>>> locations,
>>>> specific people and dates, face serious scrutiny risking falsehood.
>>>> Those
>>>> that are presented in general rhetoric stand better chances of being
>>>> accepted; though on a plate of assumptions and pessimism.
>>>> In the past, false prophecy was punishable by banishment and up to
>>>> death
>>>> (Deut.18:22). False prophets ventured unwisely with details and ended
>>>> into
>>>> death, but today false prophets have become so wise in their
>>>> speculation
>>>> work that they use multifaceted proverbs and idioms to express their
>>>> predictions in order to dance around meaning in a ballroom of
>>>> interpretation. This leaves critics with dissatisfactory meanings.
>>>> Considering TB Joshua's latest Prophecy of the Malaysian Airline; he
>>>> said
>>>> it was going to be an Asian Country; the plane would be lost, in the
>>>> sea,
>>>> with people over 200 and because of impatience. These are key parts of
>>>> his
>>>> prophecy. Either anyone could have said something similar knowing that
>>>> in a
>>>> year's time something of that nature can happen, or he could have been
>>>> more
>>>> specific to name the country, the sea, the exact number of people, or
>>>> the
>>>> exact cause of the crash. By not doing this, he leaves for himself an
>>>> escape valve if parts of the prophecy did not come true, and in
>>>> addition,
>>>> he can certainly twist parts to make a closer interpretation.
>>>> Hence we are helpless because we cannot say the entire prophecy was
>>>> untrue neither can we say that his prophecy was entirely exacting, but
>>>> to
>>>> his benefit as the prophet and the primary interpreter, he claims his
>>>> is
>>>> clear. Was he true? Yes. Was he false? Yes. Is he therefore a False
>>>> prophet? Look at him from your own angle. *Dear friends, do not believe
>>>> every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
>>>> because many false prophets have gone out into the world. They are from
>>>> the
>>>> world and they speak from the view point of the world and the world
>>>> listens
>>>> to them. (1John 4:1,5). Jesus also warns in Luke: "Woe to you when all
>>>> men
>>>> speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false
>>>> prophets" (Luke 6:26).*
>>>>
>>>> 4. *The Prophet's Shrine:* If you want to know what kind of
>>>> prophet is before you, take a good look at his shrine. There are
>>>> artifacts
>>>> that represent the type of deity the prophet professes. But besides the
>>>> nature of the shrine, there are servants and services; these are the
>>>> hidden
>>>> realities of the prophetic enterprise. Some churches are built like
>>>> "church" but within their walls, activity very much is satanic. Some
>>>> practice worship and praise, and a host of healing and exorcisms, but
>>>> their
>>>> motives and direction are diabolic. Some are "white garments", some are
>>>> "Red Garments", but not all that glitters is gold!!!!! Some emphasize
>>>> specific movements, signs, songs, sacred places. So if you don't derive
>>>> some reason from artifacts, you can find something in the services.
>>>> After TB Joshua's 40/40 fasting of 1989, he claimed that he had
>>>> received
>>>> a vision from God to commence his ministry. So he founded the Synagogue
>>>> Church of All Nations (SCOAN). Watch this name carefully because it was
>>>> purposefully derived. *Synagogue*: a term derived from the Jewish
>>>> tradition, denotes a "house of assembly" or a "House of Prayer" in both
>>>> Greek and Hebrew languages; possibly emphasizing his Jewish lineage
>>>> with
>>>> Jesus Christ of Nazareth. *Church;* a term generated from
>>>> Christo-centric religions denotes a place set apart for worship or a
>>>> group
>>>> of people who have the same beliefs; he wishes to stress that he is a
>>>> branch of Christ. *All Nations* means that it is geographically,
>>>> socially, economically and anthropologically unlimited; in the likeness
>>>> of
>>>> The Great Commission of Christ (Matt.28 19-20). The two words,
>>>> Synagogue
>>>> and Church have similar meaning, so why would he use such duplication
>>>> in
>>>> naming his ministry? Does it not sound like "Church Church of All
>>>> Nations"?
>>>> I want you to also watch at names of mushroom churches as you go
>>>> through
>>>> your streets in order to compare it with TB Joshua's. You would find
>>>> that
>>>> as many as there are churches popping up everywhere, their Prophets or
>>>> Pastors strive to create names that are appealing to membership. "God
>>>> Alone
>>>> Church of Christ", "New Emmanuel Assembly", "First Holy Church of God"
>>>> etc.
>>>> These names serve a personal business purpose, but they are disguised
>>>> in
>>>> garments of righteousness and evangelism, always depicting a seemingly
>>>> Christly and Godly motive. Jesus Himself warned*: "watch out for false
>>>> prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are
>>>> ferocious wolves" (Matt.7:15)* On the contrary, walk through your
>>>> streets and check whether any Mosque carries such embellishments. Check
>>>> in
>>>> your typical African village for real traditional shrines whether you
>>>> would
>>>> find a sign post. Instead, I have witnessed a trend, fake traditional
>>>> healers leave their villages, move into cities where no one knows them,
>>>> make a sign post and declare that they are great healers and prophets.
>>>> They
>>>> prey on the innocent, and the desperate. Not all who place sign posts
>>>> and
>>>> cumbersome names to their churches or shrines are fake, but we are also
>>>> able to watch that such businesses of fake shrines and churches have
>>>> proliferated and infiltrated the economy. Attached to prosperity gospel
>>>> people have now commercialized God to their glories. While some,
>>>> through
>>>> divine interventions have come out to testify of their misdeeds, some
>>>> certainly await their doomsday; in this life or in the hereafter.
>>>> It has been observed that TB Johua's Church business is a multi-million
>>>> dollar business, pulling visitors from all over the world (All Nations).
>>>> He
>>>> employs enough personnel to handle services. He constructed buildings
>>>> to
>>>> host both long term and short term visitors. In fact it is a system that
>>>> is
>>>> self-governing and self-sustaining to be self-propagating. In the sense
>>>> of
>>>> "synagogue" they have constructed centers in other places in the world,
>>>> but
>>>> they only channel proceeds or fame to the center and TB Joshua in
>>>> Nigeria.
>>>> So until he probably dies, you will not hear of another renowned prophet
>>>> in
>>>> his church apart from him. Can this behavior make us conclude that he
>>>> may
>>>> just be one of those prophets who want to glorify themselves by using
>>>> God's
>>>> Name? The reality with TB Joshua's business is that his has been
>>>> recognized
>>>> by Nigerian Ministry of Tourism to constitute a very vital element, and
>>>> therefore deserves not only a tax-exempt status, but also some form of
>>>> subventions. Hence in 2010, *Weekly Trust*, a Nigerian news paper noted
>>>> that *Tourism Has a Spiritual Face Too* while mentioning the impact of
>>>> TB Joshua's ministry to Nigerian Tourism. By 2013, *The Guardian
>>>> Newspaper UK,* in reference to *Nigeria Daily,* reported that The SCOAN
>>>> attracts more weekly attendees than the combined number of visitors to
>>>> Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London.
>>>> Such prosperity does not directly make a ministry false but it can shed
>>>> light to how an evil system may be operating in the realm of the real.
>>>> Go
>>>> closer and find out where the money comes from and where it goes. Watch
>>>> how
>>>> the prophet is securing his position and fame. Discover how he
>>>> consciously
>>>> designs programs and services. Listen how he carefully chooses his
>>>> verbs.
>>>> Watch how he verbally directs worship to God but wishes in actions that
>>>> all
>>>> worship be directed to him.
>>>> If you followed me into this laboratory with the expectation that
>>>> specific result would be achieved, by now you must have been somehow
>>>> disappointed. I may be more disappointed than you given that I was
>>>> personally expectant. We all have the spirit to discern as individuals,
>>>> though God gives discernment as a special gift to certain individuals.
>>>> But
>>>> spiritual matters cannot be tested or proven simply by physical means.
>>>> It's
>>>> therefore unfortunate that we went into a wrong laboratory. But at least
>>>> we
>>>> achieved spiritual enlightenment and at the human level, the critic's
>>>> satisfaction.
>>>> To conclude let me attempt to prophesy: If TB Joshua is a false
>>>> prophet,
>>>> he will be exposed soon, but if he is a true prophet, he will be
>>>> exalted.
>>>> It is just a matter of time! This is a world where almost every
>>>> prognostic
>>>> is believed to be a prophesy; if I am not mistaking.
>>>>
>>>> Nformi Emmanuel
>>>>
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