Someone said something about choices and that it is a matter of personal choice to read or not to read.
Well I agree...but I have an argument...plz counter it..
If duryodhan knew about choices...uncle shakuni wouldn't be around to coach him from childhood....right!
If karan knew about choices he wouldn't have ended up on the wrong side for respect..which is always constructed and distructed at the behest of others. He would have laid more importance to self-respect.
If pitamaha bheeshm knew about choices..he would know that nothing is more imp than protecting the dignity and the life of the weakest individual..in this case draupadi.
That reminds me of ghandhi ji's talisman..that appears on the first page of every NCERT text book.
The problem if at all that needs discussion is who will teach....the one who understands..is the one who can teach.
The one is not swayed by emotion and has control over five senses can teach..
The one who is unbiased and is able to highlight the postive and neagtive of each charachter..leaving the student to understand and finally decide who was right..and who wasn't...will teach....
Leaving students on their own to decide is dangerous...isn't it...but that is the real choice.
So there are two ways of making choices..informed and uninformed.
You do something uninformed doesn't absolve you of the result. You cannot claim your ignorance...however the blame does shift a little on others...and the choices made are made out of ignorance.
If you are informed and then you commit a mistake..you are surely the culprit. And also responsible for the outcome.
In a place karna agrees with vasudev and says you are right dharma is damaged more by the knowledgeable then those who half knowledge of it....
So I allowing students to decide who was right and who was wrong...we are permitting an informed choice between what is right and what is wrong.
The beauty of mahabharat is that it is an impartial account of everyone....infact..when draupadi calls duryodhan the blind son of a blind man...yudhister knows something nice will not come of it.
The diffculty is who can talk about it without being partial.
Thaanks and regards
Dr. Padma
Dear All,I concur with the Honble Justice. Yes Gita and Mahabharatha should be included in the text books at the school level. What's wrong in it. Being secular doesn't mean being non-religious. One can propagate, preach and practice any religion of their choice. We can take good things from any religion or religious scriptures. We have been witnessing the degrading human values or to be harsh absence of human values if not in all, at least in few people. The personality of a person will be built when the person is young. And at such tender age if great things are taught in simple way whats wrong in it. We unnecessarily degrade our own selves under the broad head of secularism.Regards,Dr V Vijay Durga Prasad--On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, 'Vijendra Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:
--Dear All,I endorse the CPI-M statements about unwarranted statements. Whatsoever, its goodness or universality, we cannot implement as a mandatory texts at school, if we believe in secularism. If some sect of people or not happy with it, if it is compulsory.Veda's and Gita's have survived for centuries because of their virtue. Let us not dilute it through making mandatory.Krishna was the first one to speak about individual choices and 'you are the central person and responsible for your choices'.The choices are opposite to compulsory things.I am saying this with as a believer, full respect for Veda's and Gita and not a follower of Marxism.Regards,Prof. Vijendra Kumar S.K.Assistant Professor & Counseling PsychologistPES University, BangaloreOn Monday, August 4, 2014 9:51 AM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,From the time immemorial India has remained a very peculiarcountry.1.The teachings mainly of Vedas, Upanishads, Mahabharata and Ramayana are appreciated and are being followed all over the world, especially by the developed countries what ever political system they follow.2.India boasts to be the largest democratic country. US, UK, Germany and many more countries follow democracy, Russia,China, Cuba, etc. follow Communist pattern, and some others another government patten, but hardly we hear about the religious riots taking place there, and if any, never for political gains.3.There has always remained a class of people in India who have been working for their personal gains, many times turning them to be traitors. That is how India remained under the control of invaders. Anything related with the title "Hindu" is treated as a sin and used for promoting casteism, religious hatered, etc. These traditions, rituals are the creation of these power hungry people and no way a part of 'Hindu' philosophy. Rituals, customs, traditions set by this group are not the principles or values enumerated in ancient Indian literature.4.Let us consider the period from 1920 (the year when Tilak expired) to 2014. Most of our leaders (rooted out from the real Indian soil) were UK taught, influenced by French Revolution and Communist Philosophy and they were far away from the roots of this country. Like our ancestors, such a class has usually remained busy in safeguarding their international image, safeguarding their personal interests at the cost of nation and masses.5.We play politics fooling the masses around beating the pseudo-secularism, riots on religious basis, human rights, etc., to achieve one's political gains. We hardly talk about the real societal and national developmental issues. The outcomes: scams, corruption, red-tape, and what not? Is it not a miserable outcome? How blind we have become? We have become so blind that we do not even hesitate to criticise the views of honorable Supreme Court advising to introduce value education through the teachings of Ramayana and Mahabharata.Let me add one more thing; in Communist philosophy it is dictated that the true communism takes place; if a State becomes Stateless: a State without borders! It also states that religion is opium. This is really the best evolved theory that was already propagated through our ancient literature treasure, e.g., "Vasudaiva_Kutumkam",. Brahma or Cosmos or God is one, but the ways to achieve Him may be different, respect all these ways, read "Pasaydan" written by Dnyaneshwar 400 years ago when he was 16 years old. I do believe that if Marx had read this small prayer to God, he would not have created Communist philosophy.Be loyal to India. The whole world is ours!Regards.Yours,___________________________________________________________On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 17:16:01 +0530 "Prof. Bholanath Dutta" wrot1900 New Delhi, Aug 3: The CPI-M Sunday described as "improper and unwarranted" Supreme Court judge A.R. Dave's suggestion that the Gita and the Mahabaratha should be taught in schools."What Justice Dave has advocated is religious instruction in all schools from Class I. Compulsory religious instruction in government schools violates the basic secular principle enshrined in the constitution," the Communist Party of India-Marxist said. "It is unfortunate that a sitting judge of the Supreme Court propounds his personal views which go against the grain of the secular democratic constitutional principle which he as a judge is expected to uphold," said a party statement. Judge Dave said here Saturday: "Had I been the dictator of India, I would have introduced the Gita and Mahabharata in Class I. That is the way you learn how to live life. I am sorry if somebody says I am secular or I am not secular. But we have to get good things from everywhere." IANS Educate, Empower, ElevateProf. Bholanath DuttaFounder, Convener & President -- > MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >--
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