Dear Sirs,
Few more submissions: Directing senior students to perform these live roles at institutional level would make the whole process sustainable.
- We should encourage deliberate improvements,
- promote self-reflective culture,
- providing them directions
- but enough room also to reflect by delegating responsibility to develop systems to make it work,
- ensure robust mentorship system to seek guidance, expecting them to run the systems to perfection
- with further improvements as add-ons
- since there is always another goal to reach with challenges re-defined.
Thanks and regards,
Prof. G.S.Autee
MIT , Aurangabad-431028 MS India
Tel: +912402375281; Mobile: +91 9689949953
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Subject: Re: FW: [MTC Global] Secrets to being a better student
My submission to the subject:
1. It largely depends on the academic culture and learning environment existing in the college.
2. If you look at the student life cycle during the program, first two semester a student is a pure student and in 3rd & 4th semester students are like intern / trainee.
3. A student is a mentee during the whole program as s/he needs proper career counseling appraising job-fit requirements , willingness to study further or entering into domain of entrepreneurship.
4. Promises during the admission must be delivered else students will loose interest.
5. Students have friends in other colleges and always in the habit of comparing with other colleges. Be assured you deliver the best.
6. Placement, industry-institute partnership cell, ED Cell and other co-curricular activities must work in sync to address the two fold purpose of knowledge and employment.
7. Vision of the management and academic leadership of the faculty members play pivotal role in the whole process.
8. Students lose interest as their expectations are not met in terms of quality input and other value added activities and further take no / less interest for guest lecture or any such initiatives.
9. Employability issue needs to be address the day student step in the college.
10. Powerful orientation and induction program and further adherence to the same would help immensely.
11. Faculty feel happy when students do well. In the similar way, students take the ride when faculty perform well [ paper presentation / delivery a talk as a resource person / recognition / write up in news paper / research related works / consultancy services / MDP etc.]
These are some of the areas need to be holistically addressed to find the answer to the concerns raised.
Kindest Regards,
Bholanath
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 10:10 AM, 'Dr Vinod Dumblekar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Students receive information in school and college, where they get to 'know.
This education makes more aware, but not necessarily capable, which is what the employer wants.
Trainees want abilities and attitudes, which contribute to skills, if the tasks are repeated.Is information may be part of the training? May be. But, the busy employer is concerned more about the potential employee's skills than about his education. That is, he values skilled action more than education.
In recruitment season, students are not employable, because they lack the skills at that time - although some are 'employed', i.e. admitted to a firm, after which they are trained and socialised to work as desired.
Students will not appreciate any content - guest lectures and workshops - that does not make him employable. Perhaps, institutes should conduct a survey with their students, ascertain the reasons for their perceived lack of interest, and ask for their suggestions as to how to make them attend. Our real objectives should be (3) to increase their employability; (2) to understand whether being a better student (more information in diverse forms?) would make him more employable; and (1) to ascertain what the student wants: knowledge and its delivery, or employability? More surveys? Yes!
Best wishes.--------------------------------------------------------The great aim of education is not knowledge but action. ~ Herbert Spencer
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(Former Head & Dean, Faculty of Management Studies (FMS Delhi), University of Delhi; Member of BoS: AICTE, AIMA, and such othersProfessorJay Mitra, Ph.DWe shall continue to debate on this issue as long as we do not appreciate the difference between 'education' and 'training'.Beyond the normal principles of 'goal-setting' and 'reinforcement' there are few similarities between educating a student and training an athlete. If we are 'TRAINING" a student, pedagogical principles would be the same: Setting S.M.A.R.T goals; Modelling; Grand visualization of future; Continuous feedback & corrective coaching; Incentivisation through expansion of self-efficacy and purpose; and Development of values to keep cool under duress or success.
The 'student' is neither an 'apprentice', nor an 'understudy', nor a 'mentee', nor an 'intern'.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ramamirtham Gopal <rgopaldoctor@gmail.com> wrote:
While we all discuss as to how to improve the employability of the student. We need to address the issue viz. Is the student interested in putting the necessary efforts from his side.
We need to address this issue. Typically for e.g. Students are not interested in guest lectures and /or workshops conducted by leading industry persons. They need to be incentivized to attend these sessions
thanks and with kind regards,
Prof. Dr. R. Gopal
Director, Dean and Head of the Department,
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Sent: 31-10-2014 19:30
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Secrets to being a better student
Dear Prof. Bholanath ji,Thank you so much for addressing the key issues to get consensus on what needs to be done, what is the information required and who shall do it.
- The tripartite experiment by a leading Auto Industry is quite an inspirational one for diploma engineers,since it combines the best practices and achieves high ratings on Employability scale providing win-win situation for student, parents, OEM and its Ancillaries...
- "Yes! You can train a student, just like you would train an athlete.". . education, skills and winning attitude.
- OEM hosted the program approved by open university in association with an educational institute to provide appropriate blend of class-room learning techniques and teaching pedagogies well supported by on-the-job-training business model.
- Vibrant campus right their in future organizational environment and culture.
Thanks once again for student-centric approach,With warm regards,
Prof. G.S.Autee
MIT, Aurangabad-431028 MS India
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Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Secrets to being a better studentThis is the real challenge for a Leader in the academia today.We can choose the best practices from IIMs,IITs, NITs & many other institutions and CUSTOMIZE them to suit our local needs depending on the kind of students ,institutional vision,availability of funds etclots of examples around us.For the teaching ,learning methodology & pedagogy, to achieve this, We haveso in any good institute, the efforts are made through curricular,co-curricular and extra-curricular activities to achieve both the objectives .Educational Institutions, particularly professional & tertiary education ones are entrusted with doing both.Training is a process of preparing an individual for performing a specific task.i second the opinion by Dr. P H Waghodekar.Education helps in overall development of an individual.Prepares an individual for life and help him/her live in harmony with the environment .
Dr.J.Peter
Dean
RMD Sinhgad School of Management Studies
Pune
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
No.
Student is not a trainee nor teacher a coach. Training pertains to developing skill in a certain narrow field to churn out trainee as expert in the field concerned. A group of trainees is homogeneous one namely they are charged with a common goal acquiring skill in a certain area say a turner, pattern maker,runner, long jump, disc throw, etc.
Whereas students come from different background, not necessarily having a common goal nor homogeneous inputs, save to pass through a certain exam. The outcomes of education are different surfacing at the end of one generation whereas training is expected to give desired performance in a related field in a short span.______________________________________________________________
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
Aurangabad: 431028 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
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and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.
Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
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"You can train a student, just like you would train an athlete."...
Do you agree? If yes, then what kind of learning techniques an teaching pedagogies would help achieve it ?--
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