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We have data telling us that a ertain number of people are watching Gay pix and movies. There is nothing telling us why those people are waching the said pix and movies.

It could be out of curiousity to understand how normal humlan beings can delve into such inhuman acts. Jumping out to draw conlusions as to how those who are interested homosexuality are Africans is very UNSCIENTIFIC if I can use that term

Remember that Kenyans are not great boozers. So if they happen to come to Cameroon, do not be surprised to see them trooping into our Off-Licnces and Bars to watch Cameroonians drinking beer as from 6 AM. That does not mean they are interested in beer.

Agirn Nyangkwe

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:14 AM, 'Ofege Ntemfac' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


The Sin of Sodom
Serious Questions and Bible Answers about the Homosexual Movement

What is a Sodomite?

A sodomite is a person who practices sodomy--a homosexual. God's word doesn't use such terms as "homosexual," "gay," and "lesbian." Some might argue that a sodomite is nothing more than an inhabitant of Sodom, but God uses the word "sodomite" in reference to homosexuals long after the ancient city of Sodom is destroyed (1 Kings 14:24; 15:12; 22:46; 2 Kings 23:7).

Isn't it more proper to refer to sodomites as "homosexuals" and "gays?"

No, because God refers to them as "sodomites." "Homosexual" is a neutral technical term, while "gay" is a nice term that the sodomites have invented for themselves. Due to the constant brainwashing tactics of Hollywood and the Media, "gay" has been adapted by most everyone as the proper title for these people. To be "gay" is to be "merry" and "joyful." To be a "sodomite" is to be wicked and sinful (Gen. 13:13). So "gay" is certainly NOT the proper title. We are warned in Isaiah 5:20 that God is very displeased with people who apply good words to evil things: "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Drunkards are not "chronic alcoholics," fornication is not "pre-marital sex," and sodomites are not "gay."

How do we know for certain that sodomy is a sin?

Because God's word declares it to be a sin, over and over again. The very first time "Sodom" occurs in the Bible God sends us a sound warning: "But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly." (Gen. 13:13) In Genesis 18:20, we are told that the sin of Sodom is "very grievous." Then in Genesis 19:4-7 we read of a case where the Sodomites seek sexual relations with a total stranger! Shortly after this incident, God destroys their entire city because He couldn't find even ten righteous people dwelling there.

Later, in the book of Leviticus, some very sharp warnings are given about sodomy. Leviticus 18:22 says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Then Leviticus 20:13 says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Webster defines an "abomination" as "extreme hatred" and "detestation." That's how God feels about sodomites.

Hundreds of years later we read that sodomites are in the land and they are committing "abominations" (1 Kings 14:24). King Asa, a good king over Judah, did "that which was right in the eyes of the Lord" when he "took away the sodomites out of the land" (1 Kings 15:11-12). Several years later there were still some sodomites left in the land, so King Jehoshaphat, the son of King Asa, also did that which was RIGHT in the eyes of the Lord by taking the sodomites OUT of the land (1 Kings 22:43-46). We also read that King Josiah did the "right" thing when he "brake down the houses of the sodomites" (2 Kings 22:2; 23:7).

In Isaiah 3:9, God makes reference to the boldness of the people who commit this grievous sin: "The show of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves." Is this not a perfect description of the modern day sodomites who parade up and down the streets demanding their rights? Ezekiel 16:49 says that PRIDE is a chief sin of the sodomites. Perhaps this is why we read about "Gay Pride" parades. Proverbs 16:18 says, "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

Some say only the Old Testament speaks against sodomy but that the New Testament is silent about it. This is not true. The New Testament clearly condemns this sin. Romans 1:21-27 speaks about the sodomites. Paul says they are vain in their imaginations, they steal God's glory, they are foolish, unclean, vile, and against nature. In II Peter 2:6, the word "ungodly" is used in connection with sodomy. Paul said in I Corinthians 6:9 that these people would not inherit the kingdom of God.

Friend, sodomy is wicked in the eyes of God!

Don't most professionals agree that a person's sexual orientation is of biological or genetic origin?

Yes, but they're dead wrong. The majority of professional people once believed the earth to be flat. Were they right? The majority of astronomers once believed the stars could be numbered. Were they right? The majority of scientists today believe that men have evolved from monkeys. Are they right? In Genesis, the majority of the world thought Noah was crazy. Were they right? The majority thought Jesus Christ should be crucified. Were they right? Listen friend, if you're running with "the majority," then you are on a collision coarse with the Devil! IGNORE THE MAJORITY! Just trust God's word. God says that sodomy is WRONG, so it's wrong. Period.

Besides, there are many professional people in the medical field who believe that sodomy is an acquired behavior. The book, Shadow In The Land, by Congressman William Dannemeyer, cites several authors who disagree with the biological and genetic theories. The following are among them:

"Homosexuality, the choice of a partner of the same sex for orgastic satisfaction, is not innate. There is no connection between sexual instinct and choice of sexual object. Such an object choice is acquired behavior; there is no inevitable genetically inborn propensity toward the choice of a partner of either the same or opposite sex." (Charles Socarides, Homosexuality: Basic Concepts and Psychodynamics, International Journal of Psychiatry 10, 1972: 118-25)

"Whatever may be the possible unlearned assistance from constitutional sources, the child's psychosexual identity is not written, unlearned, in the genetic code, the hormonal system or the nervous system at birth." (John Monday, Sexual Dimorphism and Homosexual Gender Identity, Perspectives in Human Sexuality, 1974, p. 67)

Doesn't the American Psychiatric Association consider sodomy to be normal?

Yes. In 1974, the APA removed homosexuality from their list of mental disorders. Naturally, the sodomites make a regular habit of informing us of this, but they fail to inform us of HOW the APA came to this decision. Beginning in 1970, the sodomites started invading the annual APA convention. Although not invited, they made it a regular habit to burst into the annual meetings like uncivilized barbarians. Once in the panel rooms they would resort to shouting and name calling, in hopes of intimidating as many people as possible. They also found it effective to appeal for pity by whining about their sad plight, which they compared to racial discrimination against blacks. By much sympathy pleading and very little factual evidence, the sodomites won the hearts of a few psychiatrists and also a panel of their own in 1973. Then after a very effective letter campaign, the sodomites had applied enough pressure to seal their victory. Finally, in a 58 to 40 vote, the APA decided to remove homosexuality from their list of mental disorders in 1974.

Why not just leave the sodomites alone and let them live their own lives?

Because God hates this sin and He doesn't want it "left alone." Sin is like a cancer: when ignored it spreads. As we've already seen from God's word, God commends those who oppose sodomy, so we too need to speak out against this abominable sin before it overwhelms us and destroys our nation like it destroyed Sodom. No, we should not HATE the sodomites, but we should firmly oppose their sin as the word of God commands us.

Can a sodomite be cured?

Man says, "No, because it isn't a disease," but God tells us there IS a cure, because there is a cure for ALL SIN. God is willing to cleanse any person of this sin and forget it forever! Some people have the strange idea that God cannot forgive certain sins, but the Bible says otherwise!

1 John 1:7 says, "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

Revelation 1:5 says, "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood."

Friend, Jesus Christ has the cure. You can ignore what the medical profession says about there being no cure for homosexuality. There IS a cure, and YOU can have it TODAY - if you'll confess to God that you're a sinner, repent of your sins (Luke 13:3), and receive His Son as your one and only Saviour. Sin is sin, whether it be sodomy, murder, stealing, lying, adultery, fornication, pride, rebellion, or anything else. All have sinned and come short of God's glory (Rom. 3:23) because all have been born with a sin nature (Rom. 5:12; Psa. 51:5). Jesus Christ shed His sinless blood and died to pay for your sins and He rose again the third day for your justification. The Bible says He'll save you if you'll RECEIVE Him as your Savior:

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" (John 1:12)

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Rom. 10:9-10)

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Rom. 10:13)

Friend, the decision is all your's. You can believe man and pretend that God made you to be a sodomite, or you can believe God and ask Him to save your soul from Hell through the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

What's your decision?

For more information about salvation, please send for your free copy of Understanding God's Salvation Plan.

Copyright © 1996 James L. Melton

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:55 AM, "bassey etuk okpoetuk@yahoo.com [CreatiViews]" <CreatiViews@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Samira,
I read this twice. Not sure about my response, but it's 3.46 am, sleepy. Will revisit this later today. Quite interesting recriminations and bold assumptions  as you throw  stones at the glass windows.
Bassey

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From:"Samira Ed i samiritecreate@yahoo.com [CreatiViews]" <CreatiViews@yahoogroups.com>
Date:Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:18 AM
Subject:Re: [cameroon_politics] Re: [C r e a t i v i e w s] Re: [camnetwork] Africans Gay Porn

 

I used to think that those Africans who were hostile towards homosexuality did so from ignorance. But no more. In the 21st century, when we have the benefit of information technology, it is tragic for people to hold bigotted views, without giving themselves the opportunity to get the facts. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice. Who would want to be sexually deviant, different or weird, if they could help themselves?

There simple fact that this characteristic is present in other life forms which are not human attests to the natural occurence of the trait. Homosexuality is a natural state of biology. If you're not one, how do you know that the aspect of being gay is not natural to other humans?

This brings me to another point. Many Africans are notoriously intolerant. In fact, I have seen situations where just people a person is old, they're accused of being witches and wizards. Those who're physically or mentally disabled treated with extreme unkindness. That is why in some parts of Africa, twins and albinos are murdered. There's another side to the hostility some express towards gay people; it is self-hatred. Psychologists have also discovered that some men with latent homosexuality hate it so much that they find solace only by persecuting gays. Cases of bible-pounding preachers abound, who dedicated their life's works at the crest of this persecution.

It is unfair, it is ignorance, it is unkind, hypocritical in many cases, and a glaring reflection of uncontained bigotry that some people express irrational hatred against innocent beings. There was a time when very beautiful, light-skinned women with what is called "pussy eyes," in Africa were called mermaids. Today, some women actually transmogrify to look like that.

Get the education on what homosexuality is, and don't deny or lie to yourself about these facts. Just because you don't know doesn't mean it is untrue.
 
ANYANGO
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On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:57 AM, "SAIDOU sssnsule@yahoo.fr [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Peter,

There is NO EQUATING THAT STUFF TO POLYGAMY. There is the parable of the ten wives waiting for a husband, some with oil in their lamps others with no oil in their lamps.

I have not heared anywhere that some anuses were waiting for a man to come and appreciate them!!!!

Homobeasting is a lifestyle there in Europe: let it remain there. polyandry remains in India or what. We remain here with our polygamy.
 
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Indeed it is a lifestyle choice, just like polygamy, which is a behavior and a choice between consenting individuals.  Corruption is a lifestyle among certain populations and accepted as a way of doing business among Cameroonians. Do we stand by and see this reap the very fabric of our society? The consenting parties are liable for this crime.

Laws are generated from generally accepted societal norms. Do we just go ahead and legalize corruption in Cameroon as a way of doing business? Unlike the unitary family nature of western lifestyles and families , the African  family  is based on extended relations. Can we agree that homosexuality hurts that support system.

To hell with a homosexual lifestyle.

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On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "Tabong Kima bakebe1@msn.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
I think comparing a homosexual to a left or right handed, a dwarf, or skin color is like comparing apples and oranges. 99.9% of homosexuals have had intimate relations with their opposite sex and decided to become homosexual for one reason or another. Even while professing to be homosexuals, most of them are heterosexuals in contrast to the biological impossibility of being a black man today and a white man tomorrow or being a dwarf this week and a giant next week. Homosexuality is a life style choice and all the science out there attempting to impose a scientific grounding to it is junk. Personally,
I have nothing against homosexuals or homosexuality, after all, like the Pope said; Who am I to judge them. So long as the the act is between two consenting adults it is ok. Placing it at a moral equivalency level of racial discrimination is what I find nauseating. 
Kima Tabong
Boston

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On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:32 PM, "Samira Ed i samiritecreate@yahoo.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Who says homosexuality is a sin? Who makes homosexuality a sin? Being a dwarf, being wall-eyed, being retarded, left-handed or right-handed is not a sin, why should homosexuality be a sin? Religion is not a moral, legal, scientific, cultural or social arbiter.
 
ANYANGO
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On Monday, November 3, 2014 6:21 PM, "Albert Usumanu njoyaus@yahoo.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Vally:

Desmond Tutu knows the God who is love cannot be homophobic. If he is true to his beliefs, he also knows the Holy God hates sin and unless the bible is open to interpretations, homosexuality is sin.
The most venerated among us are never a substitute for scriptural truths.

Albert Usumanu

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On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Valentine Mungyeh valmungyeh@yahoo.com [cameroon_politics]" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
The venerable Desmond Tutu said and I quote:

"I'd rather go to hell than worship a homophobic God"

Take this as profound food for thought from a man who has exercised the open-mindedness it takes to understand humanity in its totality.
 
v. mungyeh
Never explain yourself. Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it. /Anon.


On Monday, November 3, 2014 3:01 AM, "Samira Ed i samiritecreate@yahoo.com [CreatiViews]" <CreatiViews@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"The attempted link between "goggle gay porn" and homosexuality in Africa is pseudo science and absurd." Achi Nfor

Achi Nfor,
Your points of rebuttal are by no mean scientific and in some cases make absolutely no sense. What is more scientific than the collection of data? And you've raised unrelated issues like begetting children which have no bearing on the points I raised about the existence of homosexuality amongst Africans. If proof of heterosexuality was birthing or the reproduction of one's kind, why are some heterosexual couples childless? Do you know that homosexuality exists in lower lifeforms beside humans? The last question was to debunk your assumption that homosexuality is attributable to behaviour or culture.

You contradict your position here with your own words:

"However, it's most instructive to observe that heterosexual couples will naturally produce children with some abnormalities, like mental retardation, deformities and homosexual tendencies" Achi Nfor

Are you by any stretch of discrimination excluding the great African race from these natural phenomena, which you've unwittingly observed above? The acceptance of the same natural outcomes after a sexual encounter between Africans is being smart; putting Africa on the same concourse of social and anthropological level as the rest of humanity. We may be a race apart, but we are biologically not as disparate as other races. 

The Caucasians, the Asians, the Arabs etc have studied the vast diversities amongst their species, while Africans continue to bury their heads in the sand in denial. We cloak everything under a false canopy of our much vaunted morality, but then look at how callous and vile some Africans are. We are by no means homogenous in everything, including our skins in both colour and texture.

Here's a bold cliché that never fails to make an appearance, which I saw coming a long mile away:

"The black man (African) has been enslaved, colonized, exploited and now homosexuality is being shoved down his throat. And some people say it's OK....
Homosexuality is a chain termination step, it's the beginning of extinction." Achi Nfor.

Big Sigh! Please, don't be an alarmist. One person's homosexuality does not affect another's heterosexuality. We can count on people like you to go forth and multiply, and to ensure the continuation of the human species, should we not? By the way, I don't know whether you realize that most of the anti-homosexual laws which have been adapted and made draconian in most African countries were first passed by the Colonial administrators. The imposed religion which is alien to Africans was swallowed whole, with almost obsequious acceptance. Our capacity to lie seamlessly to ourselves is unmatched and not an anomaly amongst Africans. If this is a concensus of the masses, count me out, and my offsprings too.
ANYANGO
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On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:00 PM, "Achi nfor achinfor@yahoo.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"Black People,
Here's another memory juggler for you. Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon like being born black, white, retarded or even a dwarf."

Samira:

This is an interesting observation. Let's take the logic a little further. A black man with a black woman will mostly certainly beget a black child. Same will hold true with a heterosexual couple of white or other complexion. A homosexual couple will produce nothing. It's a dead end. However, it's most instructive to observe that heterosexual couples will naturally produce children with some abnormalities, like mental retardation, deformities and homosexual tendencies. These abnormalities may require significant medical or psychiatric interventions to fix them. Homosexuality requires the latter. 

If homosexuality is a natural phenomenon like being born black or white, then it's fair to assume that heterosexuality is equally natural. However, not all heterosexual relationships are allowed. Incest or rape, for example, are not allowed in most societies even though these may be NATURAL sexual acts. 

The attempted link between "goggle gay porn" and homosexuality in Africa is pseudo science and absurd. There is no cause and effect relationship here. For comparison, what are the goggle numbers for heterosexual porn? Who exactly, i.e. racial distribution, is behind the computer viewing gay porn? Are the viewers mostly from hotels or homes? Is there any evidence that those who viewed gay porn in the countries you've listed are homosexual or became gay after viewing the porn? Could these be curiosity seekers who may want to be informed about homosexuality? There is no statistical significance to the "goggle gay porn" data.

The black man (African) has been enslaved, colonized, exploited and now homosexuality is being shoved down his throat. And some people say it's OK. Well, it is not acceptable. For once in the history or creation of the black man, we ought to be able to draw a line in the sand and refuse to cross it. Homosexuality is a chain termination step, it's the beginning of extinction.

AN

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Subject: [camnetwork] Africans Gay Porn

 
Black People,
Here's another memory juggler for you. Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon like being born black, white, retarded or even a dwarf. So no matter how much you deny it, African homosexuality has been in existence for as long as there are Africans. It is therefore hypocritical of many African countries not to recognize this reality, and accept the rights of sexual minorities. It is an act of pure evil especially an abuse of the rights of a minority of its citizens to be discriminated against for reasons of sexual orientation which is not criminal. The proof of this latent trait has been exhumed from the result of searches online.

When people are driven underground, where they are denied expression of what is natural to them, the truth will still come out from the shadows - or as it is with the case of homosexuals -- out of the closet.

A recent search result for the countries which Google gay porn websites the most have produced some shocking results. The top 3 countries are in Africa where harsh laws have been passed against homosexuality. The first 6 have extemist religious conservatism in parts or in the whole country. The question remains, why do Africans continue to be so callous and hostile towards homosexuals, when these people are not criminals? In fact, criminals are better treated in some African countries than gay people. It is typical of African hypocrisy to encourage pretense and self-righteousness, with a vaunted sense of moral superiority, while carrying out the most unspeakable savage and barbaric acts on its own people.

The results of the regional interest for gay porn speak the naked truth

You’ll never guess which country Googles gay porn the most

Regional interest
Kenya
100
South Africa
74
Nigeria
56
Pakistan
48
India
37
Philippines
18
Australia
11


A surprising country has topped Google’s rankings for searching for pictures of gay sex.
Anti-gay laws and strong social stigma appear to be doing nothing to abate the curiosity of everyday people – with Kenya’s searches for gay sex outranking those of all Western countries.
Kenya tops the Google trends rankings for both ‘gay sex pics‘ and ‘gay porn pics‘, with an extraordinarily high search index.
South Africa came second, follow by Nigeria and Pakistan – with the US and UK ranking a distant seventh and eighth.

92% of the Kenyan population agree that homosexuality is ‘unacceptable’, while having sex “against the order of nature” in the country can carry a prison sentence of up to 21 years.

The Anti-Homosexuality Bill would introduce harsh punishments for homosexuality, with life imprisonment or the death penalty for ‘aggravated homosexuality’.
The bill’s author, Edward Onwong’a Nyakeriga, said: “The petition aims at providing a comprehensive and enhanced legislation to protect the cherished culture of the people of Kenya, legal, religious and traditional family values against the attempts of sexual rights activists seeking to impose their values of sexual promiscuity on the people of Kenya.
“There is need to protect children and youth who are vulnerable to sexual abuse and deviation as a result of cultural changes, uncensored information technology, parentless child developmental settings and increasing attempts by homosexuals to raise children in homosexual relationships through adoption, foster care or otherwise.”

ANYANGO

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