Mr Augustine Agbor,
You seem to know too much and want to lecture everyone on this forum. I have read a lot of your writings on this matter and can't stay back. Who do you refer to as the 90% of Cameroonians attending schools at the moment? You are certainly referring to children in the French speaking Cameroon. Have they or their parents complained of anything. They feel satisfied and that is why they are attending schools. Probably because they know that the job market is opened to them after graduating. What is the future of the English speaking Cameroonians after graduation, Mr Lecturer. You sound too much of yourself.
Further for someone to boast that our talents are abroad and are being used and appreciated abroad is bizarre and shameful for someone like you who sounds educated. We need the talents home for our own development not used abroad. They cannot go back home because there is no future for them. Is that what you are encouraging. Sad if you are.
What do you make of our children being taught in the French language by French Cameroonians in courses or lessons to be taught in English. Who corrects their examinations in their classes? The French Cameroonian who cannot speak the English language. What do you make of the fact that over 60% of the students in the University of Buea, "Eccle Normale " Bambili like many or all the higher education institutions in Southern Cameroons are French are are being taught by French Cameroonians in French. Speak to a student in one of the technical schools in Southern Cameroons and share his experience.
What do you think of Southern Cameroons courts and the Legal Department having mainly French Judges and State Counsels. Hope with the education you might have you can distinguish the Common Law and the Civil Law system.
What do you think of all the Military Officers, police etc heads of all the territory of Southern Cameroonians and even SDOs, DOs, in every part of Southern Cameroons are French Cameroonians who can't communicate with the people they administer. Lots to mention here when you look at all the sectors of the administration of Southern Cameroons. Does the Southern Cameroonians have the basic human rights of peaceful protests?
There are lots of issues to deal with when you talk of marginalisation of the Southern Cameroonians. All the Southern Cameroons cooperations and companies have been closed down and you sound fine in your comfort zone. I know of many English speaking Cameroonians with Degrees in their pockets in Kumba riding "okada ". What a waste of money and talent. One came to me one day after building up courage and said " grand, ei bad. Since morning I nova chop even groundnut. I no get even 5Frs. I beg help me". I thought he was joking. Even if he was I would have still given him. When I gave him just 2,000Frs I had on me, this gentleman went on his knees to thank me. Is that what you are encouraging.
I note that it is people like you who are misleading other Cameroonians and perhaps the government that English speaking Cameroonians are secessionist. Far from þhat. Every English speaking Cameroonian is proud of being a Cameroonian but they need change and a better future. You sound like an envoy of the government, rather than sing the "dimabola" the we have heard over and over and it is soar now, go advice the authorities who sent you to open their minds and listen to the Southern Cameroonians in a free and fair dialogue. (Sorry too busy to read over. May be some mistakes).
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From: 'Agbor Enow Augustine' via MANYUNET <manyunet@aufoundation.org>
Date: 27/02/2017 03:42 (GMT+00:00)
To: Morgan & Jean Enowmbitang <mjenow@sbcglobal.net>, enowo07@yahoo.com, tabokog@yahoo.com, 'Taboko George' via MANYUNET <manyunet@aufoundation.org>, christmasebini <christmasebini@aol.com>, manyuvoic@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: Have You Reserved Your Spot On The Freedom Bus Ride to New York
Bro Morgan
It is deplorable when students graduate from universities without job opportunities. We must note that the 21st century global labor market is very mobile, and these students are no longer bound to work in Cameroon. The last time a read a U.S State department report that assessed Cameroonians living in the USA as one of the highly educated community in the country. This did not happen by chance, but because of the value we place in education, and specifically, because of the education we had back home. I want the young ones back home to go to school and develop the skill sets needed in today's global job environment. Moreover, more than 90% of Cameroonian students are attending classes, so the end point will be that the less than 10% who are not attending are being held back. The reality is that students will go back to school sooner or later.
Augustine Enow Agbor
The outcome of my life is not more than three lines: I was a raw material I became mature and cooked And I was burned into nothingness. Rumi
Agbor,
Seriously. With the internet on, kids were not safe from police brutality, rape, etc. Innocent kids were being abducted from their dorms by armed police to the streets. Where's the outrage for those kids killed. You're more concern for them to go to school, without internet, only to graduate and move back to their villages, waste away because of no jobs and connections to the powerful?
You are doing Biya's bidding not the kids.
Morgan Enowmbitang
On Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:48 AM, 'Agbor Enow Augustine' via MANYUNET <manyunet@aufoundation.org> wrote:
George
Turning to a simple fallacy of attacking the messenger, rather than the message shows the lack of basic critical thinking skills. Jonathan Awasom is right. Using Anglophone kids as hostages for your ill-conceived stillbirth secessionist and irredentist claim does not make you more sane than Jonathan.
My opinion is informed by the fact that schools are 100% in 8 regions of Cameroon. Furthermore, in places like Kumba, Limbe, Buea, and Tiko, all Francophone schools are opened and students and pupils attend freely.
Finally, every other state institutions are open for business, so in effect, there is no ghost town. Moreover, the beleaguered secessionist movements are a disgrace and are divided as the white blood cells flowing through their veins. Biya is just waiting for time to solve the problem, and time will.
Property owners are basking on the annual rents that parents paid for the year,but those who depend on the student body in every Anglophone towns can not afford a longer school boycott. They will soon turn against the secessionists and irredentists. Strategically, Biya is the biggest benefactor of the school boycott. The large student bodies in Bamenda and Buea could be a great catalyst in times of mass demonstration.
Augustine Enow Agbor
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:09 AM, 'Taboko George' via MANYUNET<manyunet@aufoundation.org> wrote:
Goodmorning Fellow Southern Cameroonians and Happy Sunday to you all
I just happened to read a write up posted and it felt on my Spam from one Jonnathan Awason relating to calling off the strike so that our kids should go back to school, etc. etc while others are sacrificing thrir lives for a better future for the English-speaking Cameroon.One Mr.Besong has cited instances of almost hundreds of thousands graduates from various universities out in Cameroon without jobs and those unemployed looking for means to fall Bush as the regime can only mark the scripts of The Beti, Ewondo- Bulus at times with double names as successful candidates admitted into ENAM, IRIC,and all other professional schools in La Republique du Cameroun.My question here is, is that Jonnathan Awason in his normal senses or is he suffering from Epilepsy?WHe should live to think as many times as he can to reflect before attempting to ever suggest an opinion of public interest or debate.It is high time we identify black-legs amongst ourselves.When will some of our brothers, sisters and parents who have failed woefully in executing proper decissions that could be of good use in generations to come ?Nobody is perfect and nobody knows everything, but when a majority is out crying or trying to make their voices heard for wrong doing, if you do not have a consolitory word, you better stay quiet.We, the Southern Cameroonians know how the regime of La Republique du Cameroun has been maltreating us even inside our bedrooms. I think, the next step they will take is to come and tell us the ways and manners we make sex with our wives at night.Poor us, the English-speaking Cameroonian society.T
Thank you.George TabokoEuropa Chemie Industrie(Bayer)Krefeld-Uerdingen, Germany.
Am Fr., 24. Feb. 2017 um 2:24 U2r schrieb 'christmasebini' via MANYUNET
Dear Friend you are set for the Freedom Bus Ride to New York for March 3rd UN DEMONSTRATION. Please mark sure you are at the boarding place, Langley Park Macdonald at 6 am prompt. You will also be entitled to some snacks. Congratulations and bon voyage to all those who have registered through Morisc.org or deposited their $60 at the scnc foundation bank of America account. Hurry the spaces are going fast. Secure your space today. Now.
Christmas Ebini
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Mr Augustine Agbor,
You seem to know too much and want to lecture everyone on this forum. I have read a lot of your writings on this matter and can't stay back. Who do you refer to as the 90% of Cameroonians attending schools at the moment? You are certainly referring to children in the French speaking Cameroon. Have they or their parents complained of anything. They feel satisfied and that is why they are attending schools. Probably because they know that the job market is opened to them after graduating. What is the future of the English speaking Cameroonians after graduation, Mr Lecturer. You sound too much of yourself.
Further for someone to boast that our talents are abroad and are being used and appreciated abroad is bizarre and shameful for someone like you who sounds educated. We need the talents home for our own development not used abroad. They cannot go back home because there is no future for them. Is that what you are encouraging. Sad if you are.
What do you make of our children being taught in the French language by French Cameroonians in courses or lessons to be taught in English. Who corrects their examinations in their classes? The French Cameroonian who cannot speak the English language. What do you make of the fact that over 60% of the students in the University of Buea, "Eccle Normale " Bambili like many or all the higher education institutions in Southern Cameroons are French are are being taught by French Cameroonians in French. Speak to a student in one of the technical schools in Southern Cameroons and share his experience.
What do you think of Southern Cameroons courts and the Legal Department having mainly French Judges and State Counsels. Hope with the education you might have you can distinguish the Common Law and the Civil Law system.
What do you think of all the Military Officers, police etc heads of all the territory of Southern Cameroonians and even SDOs, DOs, in every part of Southern Cameroons are French Cameroonians who can't communicate with the people they administer. Lots to mention here when you look at all the sectors of the administration of Southern Cameroons. Does the Southern Cameroonians have the basic human rights of peaceful protests?
There are lots of issues to deal with when you talk of marginalisation of the Southern Cameroonians. All the Southern Cameroons cooperations and companies have been closed down and you sound fine in your comfort zone. I know of many English speaking Cameroonians with Degrees in their pockets in Kumba riding "okada ". What a waste of money and talent. One came to me one day after building up courage and said " grand, ei bad. Since morning I nova chop even groundnut. I no get even 5Frs. I beg help me". I thought he was joking. Even if he was I would have still given him. When I gave him just 2,000Frs I had on me, this gentleman went on his knees to thank me. Is that what you are encouraging.
I note that it is people like you who are misleading other Cameroonians and perhaps the government that English speaking Cameroonians are secessionist. Far from þhat. Every English speaking Cameroonian is proud of being a Cameroonian but they need change and a better future. You sound like an envoy of the government, rather than sing the "dimabola" the we have heard over and over and it is soar now, go advice the authorities who sent you to open their minds and listen to the Southern Cameroonians in a free and fair dialogue. (Sorry too busy to read over. May be some mistakes).
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
From: 'Agbor Enow Augustine' via MANYUNET <manyunet@aufoundation.org>
Date: 27/02/2017 03:42 (GMT+00:00)
To: Morgan & Jean Enowmbitang <mjenow@sbcglobal.net>, enowo07@yahoo.com, tabokog@yahoo.com, 'Taboko George' via MANYUNET <manyunet@aufoundation.org>, christmasebini <christmasebini@aol.com>, manyuvoic@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: Have You Reserved Your Spot On The Freedom Bus Ride to New York
Bro Morgan
It is deplorable when students graduate from universities without job opportunities. We must note that the 21st century global labor market is very mobile, and these students are no longer bound to work in Cameroon. The last time a read a U.S State department report that assessed Cameroonians living in the USA as one of the highly educated community in the country. This did not happen by chance, but because of the value we place in education, and specifically, because of the education we had back home. I want the young ones back home to go to school and develop the skill sets needed in today's global job environment. Moreover, more than 90% of Cameroonian students are attending classes, so the end point will be that the less than 10% who are not attending are being held back. The reality is that students will go back to school sooner or later.
Augustine Enow Agbor
The outcome of my life is not more than three lines: I was a raw material I became mature and cooked And I was burned into nothingness. Rumi
Agbor,
Seriously. With the internet on, kids were not safe from police brutality, rape, etc. Innocent kids were being abducted from their dorms by armed police to the streets. Where's the outrage for those kids killed. You're more concern for them to go to school, without internet, only to graduate and move back to their villages, waste away because of no jobs and connections to the powerful?
You are doing Biya's bidding not the kids.
Morgan Enowmbitang
On Sunday, February 26, 2017 6:48 AM, 'Agbor Enow Augustine' via MANYUNET <manyunet@aufoundation.org> wrote:
George
Turning to a simple fallacy of attacking the messenger, rather than the message shows the lack of basic critical thinking skills. Jonathan Awasom is right. Using Anglophone kids as hostages for your ill-conceived stillbirth secessionist and irredentist claim does not make you more sane than Jonathan.
My opinion is informed by the fact that schools are 100% in 8 regions of Cameroon. Furthermore, in places like Kumba, Limbe, Buea, and Tiko, all Francophone schools are opened and students and pupils attend freely.
Finally, every other state institutions are open for business, so in effect, there is no ghost town. Moreover, the beleaguered secessionist movements are a disgrace and are divided as the white blood cells flowing through their veins. Biya is just waiting for time to solve the problem, and time will.
Property owners are basking on the annual rents that parents paid for the year,but those who depend on the student body in every Anglophone towns can not afford a longer school boycott. They will soon turn against the secessionists and irredentists. Strategically, Biya is the biggest benefactor of the school boycott. The large student bodies in Bamenda and Buea could be a great catalyst in times of mass demonstration.
Augustine Enow Agbor
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:09 AM, 'Taboko George' via MANYUNET<manyunet@aufoundation.org> wrote:
Goodmorning Fellow Southern Cameroonians and Happy Sunday to you all
I just happened to read a write up posted and it felt on my Spam from one Jonnathan Awason relating to calling off the strike so that our kids should go back to school, etc. etc while others are sacrificing thrir lives for a better future for the English-speaking Cameroon.One Mr.Besong has cited instances of almost hundreds of thousands graduates from various universities out in Cameroon without jobs and those unemployed looking for means to fall Bush as the regime can only mark the scripts of The Beti, Ewondo- Bulus at times with double names as successful candidates admitted into ENAM, IRIC,and all other professional schools in La Republique du Cameroun.My question here is, is that Jonnathan Awason in his normal senses or is he suffering from Epilepsy?WHe should live to think as many times as he can to reflect before attempting to ever suggest an opinion of public interest or debate.It is high time we identify black-legs amongst ourselves.When will some of our brothers, sisters and parents who have failed woefully in executing proper decissions that could be of good use in generations to come ?Nobody is perfect and nobody knows everything, but when a majority is out crying or trying to make their voices heard for wrong doing, if you do not have a consolitory word, you better stay quiet.We, the Southern Cameroonians know how the regime of La Republique du Cameroun has been maltreating us even inside our bedrooms. I think, the next step they will take is to come and tell us the ways and manners we make sex with our wives at night.Poor us, the English-speaking Cameroonian society.T
Thank you.George TabokoEuropa Chemie Industrie(Bayer)Krefeld-Uerdingen, Germany.
Am Fr., 24. Feb. 2017 um 2:24 U2r schrieb 'christmasebini' via MANYUNET
Dear Friend you are set for the Freedom Bus Ride to New York for March 3rd UN DEMONSTRATION. Please mark sure you are at the boarding place, Langley Park Macdonald at 6 am prompt. You will also be entitled to some snacks. Congratulations and bon voyage to all those who have registered through Morisc.org or deposited their $60 at the scnc foundation bank of America account. Hurry the spaces are going fast. Secure your space today. Now.
Christmas Ebini
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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Date: 01/03/2017 14:32 (GMT+00:00)
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com, ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] The CONSORTIUM should call OFF the STRIKE and GHOSTTOWNS ; the Biya's regime should RELEASE all POLITICAL PRISONERS and STOPTRIAL for TREASON
Why can't they adults boycott from working for their perceived oppressors? Kids should go back to school. If all the secessionists and irredentists could do is plunder a year of these kids life, then they have no case.
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:12 AM, 'louis egbe' via ambasbay<ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:Why would any one hold kids hostage? Can I inform many that education began in that part of Cameroon since the 1800s?LRC,apart from the Dualas ,is a new comer here. To believe that two regions with a combined literacy rate which stands out as one of the highest in Africa are against education is not only preposterous but an insult to the intelligence of these people. They want nothing to do with people teaching their children in pidgin or French which they do not understand ;and which lowers the quality of education to dangerous levels of semi-illiteracy! People are free to go somewhere else rather than engage in these types of mistaken views. Awasom is a liar.
On Sunday, 26 February 2017, 4:01, 'Esther Bakume' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Guys we are doing this for a better tomorrow for these kids. Not every family has the ability to send their kids abroad as yours did. Let those back home have a chance of a better system that will enable them to live a comfortable and more meaningful life. A better system of Education is what the end result of this struggle will be and much more. The Government knows that this weapon is effective. Look at all their desperate attempts even yesterday as well to dissolve consortium with confusion. But hey they failed. They are hacking and faking signatures of the consortium. Like I earlier said if the strike was not an effective means, the regime would have not given any attention.The people are sacrificing for a better tomorrow. Encourage them and stop these discouraging remarks.Civil disobedience is the answer. We shall get results. We are not going violent. We shall succeed.The struggle continues. The consortium is strongly united behind Ivo, mark, Wilfred, Nkongho and Fontem. Dialogue commences on the release of all southern Cameroonians in captive. Those working with Biya should tell him that these two kids he so dreads are still on top and the consortium(the people of Southern Cameroons ) want them there until Balla and Fontem resume office.THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES .
PEACE.
Sent from my iPadI think that one of the reason for keeping the children Home is to prevent further miseducation of our kids! Till we put good structures in place and revamp our curriculum, it would be worthless sending them to further stuck their brains with confusion! We also need to inject a sector in our education that caters for career orientation from the base upwards!The current educational system with curriculum being provided by France is toxic to our institutions and our soceity!!
Sent from my iPhone--Julius AchamWrong, Jonathan is not mad. He has a different opinion from you regarding the holding of Anglophone kids hostage by beleaguered secessionists and irredentists. As long as everyone else is going through their daily activities, keeping the kids out of school is a self-inflicted wound. Jonathan Awasom is right, the secessionists and irredentists should respect Ngia Awasom and put an end to this nonsense ASAP.
AugustineEnow Agbor--
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Subject: [camnetwork] The CONSORTIUM should call OFF the STRIKE and GHOST TOWNS ; the Biya's regime should RELEASE all POLITICAL PRISONERS and STOP TRIAL for TREASONKen Sande , a lawyer and peacemaker writes
" Peacemakers are people who breathe grace...God delights to breathe his grace through peacemakers and use them to dissipate anger, improve understanding , promote justice , and encourage repentance and reconciliation. As a lawyer and full-time Christian conciliator , I have seen this powerful dynamic bring peace in hundreds of conflicts"
The Cameroon Consortium should call off the strike and ghost Towns for conflict resolution. By the same token President Biya's regime should release all political prisoners and also end the trial of Consortium leaders . This is a 50/50 proposition to set the stage for conflict resolution against which backdrop a third party mediator will be invited in no other body than the UNO. In situations of conflict, you cannot have 100% of what you are demanding. You have to be ready to resolve the conflict with no prejudice because conflicts arise for a reason depending on what we are looking for. Hitherto, emotions will continue to rise and fall but people cannot be stuck and locked into a perpetual tunnel of conflict with no end in sight. In this light, here are my thoughts and I know some people will applaud this initiative while others will frown but it is what happens when you choose to become a mediator , peace advocate or PEACEMAKER! If you will like to work towards peace ,please, feel free to contact me at 201-878-5829.
When shall normal life return to Southern Cameroons? I see a deep conflict that could get out of control and degenerate into something horrible. It is clear that many don t know how the UNO operates and seem disinterested in understanding. I hate to see people headed down the wrong path. Now I think that we have to show maturity to the world from the Diaspora. How?
1. Continuously call for dialogue through the UNO as a third party mediator2. End the strike and ghost towns to seek dialogue3. Ask the regime to release all people arrested and locked for the sake ofdialogue, too and also to stop treason trial of Consortium leaders facing trial for treason and terror etc4. Stop inciting the regime from the Diaspora especially on social media becauseThey are reactionary and retaliating against the armless and powerless people5 Adopt a language of non-violence consistent with the principles ofinternational peace and cooperation amongst nations by the UNO6. Empower a red cross kind of relief medical team like nurses and physicians tohave access to victims who are scared of showing up at the hospital and arehiding and suffering7 Insist on using social media to promote peaceful solution to the problemrather than threatening the regime from overseas whereas they are not botheredand have shown that they would continue to crack down on our people if we keepthreatening them. No evil and carnage against a people is ever justified. But we must pursue the UNO and other bodies to collectively work towards resolving the conflict.The Cameroon regime has isolated our People, the Southern Cameroonians, and killing them. This situation is precarious and getting worse by the day while some people are celebrating on social media overseas dishing out false hope to those who desperately cling unto a serpent as it will appear. To whom are we talking to on social media? We are talking to ourselves and even smiling laughing and feeling good. I am talking about the daily reports which portrays otherwise and scares me to death because none of us on social media are affected. If President Biya has blocked communication in Southern Cameroons, then what should be our role in the Diaspora to ensure that normal life returns to our people under attack and military occupation? I ask sincere questions because some of you are painting a picture on social media that does not reflect the reality on the ground. I need not know. All I see is continuous killings and massive arrests, torture etc because of some of our actions on social media.So could we tone down and adopt a peaceful (diplomatic) approach where our people won't be unfairly targeted like that? What is the role of Diaspora towards preventing genocide or civil war against Southern Cameroons? Does it occur to anyone that something is wrong somewhere and that we continue to swim in this pool of deceit simply because we are so safe overseas? We are more reasonable, right?How can we continue to insult a monstrous regime from overseas with words when they have shown that they won't listen to us speaking out in the diaspora? I am only thinking aloud and asking in good faith because I am not sure that the kind of false optimism painted from the diaspora is helpful at all. So that is my point. Each time the youths (I don't know if they are paid by the regime to do or not) commit any act violence like burn down any building the regime cracks down more on the innocent people and so I don' t we realize that it is not working? The UNO does a routine job of investigation all the time. They are paid to do so and let nobody mislead our people into thinking UNO is now involved.I want to say here that we have a good case but I am concern about approach. It is my hope that we can learn from our mistakes and change our approach because? it is not working the way we are trying to convince ourselves about it. These are my personal insights and thoughts, which can be looked into or whatever. But you know what I am telling you the truth because the stakes are very high now. If you think I am a clown check out history of genocides and civil wars in Africa. What makes us think that we can fight a regime like with words and overcome them? You see I know that we are not violent people. The anger inside us is felt and sometimes we want to jump and tear someone into pieces. But my friends the reality is so complex and when I think of Ghandhi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and also President Ronald Reagan who ended the cold war without a single gun shut I know that we could solve these problems, too without shedding blood and wasting many lives. Attitude counts and approach is the principal factor in winning diplomatically.PeaceJonathan Awasom
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