Re: [MTC Global] Do you support common curriculum for school education?

  1. Education is on the concurrent list.The policy space, finance and administrative management is shared between centre and state. Hence, constitutional provision does not support imposition of common curriculum. What is possible and wise is to provide a common curriculum framework for states to adopt or adapt to suit its socio-cultural and economics needs and specialities. 
  2. Education, especially school education, is culturally embedded. It's neither possible nor wise to merge cultural specificity and diversities of India into one mortar. That will destroy the very idea of India and its charming diversity. 
  3. I did compare during one of my tenures as head of a national institution curriculum from different boards. Variation in science and maths is hardly 10 to 15% as one of the colleagues has already  mentioned above. Difference is in social studies, language and literature; and that should continue. It will be futile, if not foolish, to know not one's village, district, state, country, continent, world and universe, and in that sequence. 
  4. Unlike one would like to believe, there's not enough proof that infrastructure, teacher salary and training improves quality of education. Our colleagues may know that private schools pay the teachers, as per rules, salary at the level of the state norms where the school is located. Many private schools pay actually less than what they should.  And teacher salary costs more than 85% of total education budget. Thus teacher qualification and job condition are same in private and government schools. Government schools are poor quality not because of poor facilities only. These are unsupervised, unaccountable. Teacher training is ritual. NITI Aayog has recommended Evidence based technology enabled learning. 
  5. There are a few important questions. What makes government funded schools in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Kerala  fare better in school education? Why does not it happen in  the heartland? Why and how do Kendriya Vidyalayas (another chain of government schools) give run for money to the private schools affiliated to CBSE schools? There's lot to research to rediscover  and re-imagine Indian school education than arm chair policies removed from grassroots. 
Prof. Marmar Mukhopadhyay
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 Leadership for Institution Building in Education (2012 Shipra Publication)
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On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
​It is a quick fix to a have a common curriculum. It will never ensure better quality. If other boards are doing well then why not state board/central board affiliated schools are doing well? 

Efforts should be put to upgrade the government schools and ensure quality. Everything will fall in place. There is no logic as such that having a common curriculum will ensure better outcome.

If we look at the curriculum in different boards , more or less , it is common (may be 10-15% variations). The difference is in delivery pedagogy, assessment system, curricular and extra-curricular activities.

Thanks and Warm Regards,

Bholanath

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Yes, subject to:
  1. Coaching classes are banned.
  2. School and regulatory bodies  be held accountable for quality and result with heavy punishment for defaulters, any body from teacher to officer in Regulatory authority.

Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
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Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
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E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
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Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.


Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!


From: "'Gautam Patnaik' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 13:28:12
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Do you support common curriculum for school education?
Agreed......a common curriculum  is a must at +2 and +3 levels only.

We can't freeze or limit learning at the K-10 level and 10th Grade board exams are not a common standard to be benchmarked nationally/globally. It merely creates a huge pressure on children. The focus at K-10 is on managing learning outcomes and skill development for future study/work goals. Moreover Grade 10 'CERTIFICATE' should be a school standard examination and the boards must focus on the 12th grade exam 'DIPLOMA' for establishing a standard in sync with higher education and industry needs. K-10 must be flexible as the entire learning process is very dynamic, has to be contextually relevant, socially/environmentally fit etc (as pointed out already) and must evolve fast to adapt to learning needs an techniques using better tools and technologies. Rest is all domain specific applied knowledge/concepts at +2/+3 and prof levels. So all students must go through the basic school curriculum including all subjects as essential knowledge and not mess it up with a range of unmanageable subject choices/alternates at school/Grade 10 level. Schools can mange well in this and tutorial centres can rest for a while.

A common board at 10th Grade would be objected/resisted by all big boards, both national and state. Schools can survive based on their quality etc to differentiate on their uniqueness and sustain to serve the society/community. So, school's must test and certify students at 10th and a common curriculum must be the standard at 12th.

Let them perform at a common 12th for entry to the mainstream....like you have the SAT etc worldwide. In any case all boards have exhausted themselves in marking at 99.99, what more can they do to impact +2 enrollments. None. So let them exist in the market by merit, at the fees that they deserve and not demand just by a board stamp.


On Friday, June 16, 2017 10:41 AM, "'Vijendra Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Dear All,
Common curriculum is not a fair practice in the primary and secondary education because of environmental factors (I am consciously avoiding individual and psychological factors), Where our public or Government schools are abysmally low in their standards. But in higher education is is required and India has to roll on it sooner the better.
Regards,
Prof. Vijendra Kumar S.K.
Assistant Professor & Counseling Psychologist,
Centre for Counseling and Career Guidance
PES University, Bengaluru.



On Thursday, June 15, 2017 6:41 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:


Whether common curriculum will fulfill the common needs of common man commonly?

If the IQ, living conditions, traditions and culture are not common or uniform or standardized, what is the common base of the common curriculum?

Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.


Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!


From: Hellospp <hellospp@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 09:03:21
To: "'narra vishnumurty' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Do you support common curriculum for school education?
Objective of a curriculum is to get the student ready for future challanges.
Because of multiple boards there is no uniformity and students from state boards face challange in all India competitive entrance exams for higher studies or professional courses.
Curriculum of the state boards are designed keeping in mind the student demography, development status eyc. They relatively weaker compared to CBSE.
For example a text book of Jharkhand or Assam, or Odisha board will not be of same level as that of Delhi or Karnataka board.
This advantage is taken by coaching centres to get them ready.
Though such tution/ coaching will still exist (considering the speed / short cuts and techniques they claim and students rly upon) at least a uniform platform will emerge where all students will find themselves.
Regards,
Sthitaprajnya Pattanayak
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Do you support common curriculum for school education?

Education Minister has proposed the same and soon MHRD is coming out with the common curriculum to ensure uniformity, better outcome and inclusiveness. No more CBSE , ICSE and State Syllabus. Not sure about what will happen to international / Cambridge curriculum. AICTE and UGC will soon replace by HEERA as proposed by Niti Aayog. Indian education space is going through lot of reforms.

All central university has the similar curriculum which is against the objective of setting up of central university to explore the local potential, connect with the local resources and development of the particular region.

Is it such reforms, or something else to be fixed to ensure better outcome?

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