Re: [MTC Global] ENGLISH is the link language

Passion (of self), Commitment (of teachers) and Confidence which comes with experience makes a person rich in his subject. The apt and correct selection of word in a speech comes through exposure and during out schooling we used to have regular debate competition besides the News reading. I am not too sure whether the modern heavily loaded curriculum has allowances for these experiments. People who studied other languages would surely come up even if proper guides were not available....their passion would lead them to achievement. During my S.S.C exams in a new school and new environment, I had opted for Gujarati in place of Geography and due to Board rules since there weren't sufficient number of students for this subject, I had to do self study of the Prose and Poem and scored high marks in Gujarati despite being a South Indian.
I have seen many South Indian staff in MNC struggle in Hindi and Gujarati but when their grit and determination takes hold, they come out of the ordeal like pure gold. Southies have always been the butt of jokes for their pronunciations of english - Yem for M, hetch for H etc. but I still would not want to jump into the Indian Ocean or Arabian Sea as more than fishes the neighbors Srilanka and Pakistan are more intent in catching Indians and showcasing them as agents. But from what I heard from some sources, the quality of English has been consistently going down even in South.

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Stephen Narayanan
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On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Usha Gowri <usha.gowri@gmail.com> wrote:
I had to take my higher education through English Medium  and I did not have any problem in my studies because my grammar and vocabulary base as well as reading habit was sufficiently developed during schooling.-

Exactly .My mother a Telugu was a Prof of Tamil ,a prolific writer and a very witty speaker of English. She used the nuances of the language to advantage! My teachers in PG were famous  Kannada writers and they were my  English Professors !! Brilliant to the core .
But that was because all languages were taught with great fervor with no language receiving step motherly treatment.
Cut to the present: our teachers don't know any language including their mother tongue.Listen to Tamil being spoken and I want to go jump into the Arabian sea.Pronunciation is dead. And to me the language  doesn't matter -because the teacher doesn't have the subject knowledge nor the knowledge of the language. And therefore a .potent situation with children failing in Maths because they dont understand it in English. . But then, interestingly, that situation is universal. Britain and US are  brooding about it....
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Usha K Sankar
President
Co.Re Foundation
Partner 
Tugboat Consulting and Marketing Services LLP

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On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:49 AM, virendra goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com> wrote:

I had to learn four languages (no foreign language) i.e. Hindi, Panjabi, Sanskrit and English. However, subjects were taught to us in our mother tongue Hindi (read it as regional language applicable to respective area). This strengthened our understanding of fundamentals in various subjects. I had to take my higher education through English Medium  and I did not have any problem in my studies because my grammar and vocabulary base as well as reading habit was sufficiently developed during schooling. Coming from Hindi medium my spoken English was weak but I picked it up within two months. I may not have learnt British or American English but I have done well worldwide and on public platforms with my accent without any hitch. What is wrong with such kind of arrangement?

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Virendra Goel

 

From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kalpen shukla
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:09 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [MTC Global] ENGLISH is the link language

 

I believe, the larger point is missed in taking narrower view of the suggestion.

 

I am not saying that English is the ONLY language that one may study and live by for life ! We studied Eng, Hindi, Gujarati and Sanskrit and barring the last one, have definite love and proficiency in all other 3 languages !!

 

Notwithstanding the ulterior motives of the foreigners who came to India, English has surely integrated us with rest of the world in far better manner than others (say China, Pak, Sri Lanka, LatAm or African countries). Good part of our current global identity comes from stalwarts (scientists, engineers, doctors, IT professionals, Artists etc) who were at equal ease with English and also individual mother tongues !

 

While we must be proud of our rich cultural heritage (language being one of that), there is no way higher studies or professional pursuits are feasible in any of the regional languages ! Not paying attention to the need-of-the-hour, if we keep hiding our handicap under cultural camouflage, it is likely to misguide the next generation. ….. and I repeat, Pl Learn any foreign language – not necessarily only English … Cheers !!

 

Kalpen      

 

 

Not at all!

History shows there was never one country called Bharat-India .We were and still are a silo of a country.Our states are the confluence of the many different cultures that went through her lands. So how could we have,practically, one language? And to always remember doing a one language formula would have been at the cost of many ancient languages losing their identity-Tamil,Telugu ,Malayalam.....

and then comes an invader? -trader? who for their survival introduce a language and make it an emotional appeal: the pride of speaking and writing in English.those who grabbed the opportunity rose.

Rest assured, we are likely to ruin the new generations (and their future opportunities) if we shunned English and decided to revert to parochial regional mindset….. unfortunately, have seen best of brains struggling at IIT and IIM due to inadequate proficiency in this language and have seen even larger number losing out on opportunities in the Corporate world …. Choice is clear, I believe ….

an absolute truth and reality


 

Usha K Sankar

President

Co.Re Foundation

Partner 

Tugboat Consulting and Marketing Services LLP

 

What is to be does not necessarily have to be.

 

Let go or get dragged 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 2:56 PM, kalpen shukla <kalpenshukla@hotmail.com> wrote:

Isn't it amusing (and ironical too) that, in this multi-faceted country with one of the oldest civilizations, the only concept that enjoys national character and offers a common platform for communication is a foreign language – English !

 

When we talk of global opportunities and world as boundary-less market, we must also integrate ourselves with the rest. The 2nd language need not be only English, and it can be any other popular language(s) – incl Chinese ….

 

Rest assured, we are likely to ruin the new generations (and their future opportunities) if we shunned English and decided to revert to parochial regional mindset….. unfortunately, have seen best of brains struggling at IIT and IIM due to inadequate proficiency in this language and have seen even larger number losing out on opportunities in the Corporate world …. Choice is clear, I believe ….

 

Kalpen

 

From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Usha Gowri
Sent: 03 June 2017 PM 12:50
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Mumbai schoolteacher forced to sell idlis on streets for a living

 

Unfortunately and much to the chagrin of many ENGLISH is the link language esp for those of us who come from the South.It is more a survival factor than fashion

and very unfortunately we can insist that we read and write in MTs-it is good but it would like the real life story of a Government official in Kerala receiving a letter from the Central Government i Hindi and responding to it in Malayalam.He did right didn't he?

Language learning should be based on reality.WE can call ourselves ready to shift when we have enough vocabulary of tech and mgt in these languages.I am witness to a paper reading session by a hardcore MT language fanatic-he read the paper but did not know most of the word in it because they were Tamil  words for regularly used English words.Hilarious to put it mildly.

Even if we convert it is still the educated who need to make the shift-the ones who  dont go to school never have a problem

g


 

Usha K Sankar

President

Co.Re Foundation

Partner 

Tugboat Consulting and Marketing Services LLP

 

What is to be does not necessarily have to be.

 

Let go or get dragged 

 

 

 

 

 

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