Re: [MECA-MN] Fw: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...

If you do not have time to read the prolific writer - Tabong Kima, please read the below:

...would have known that from 78 AD  to 83 AD the Britons who were colonial subjects of Rome did not send their children to school to protest the kind of education the Roman colonizers gave them. Despite the heavy-handed policy of the the Roman Governor called Agricola as documented by Tacitus, the Britons kept their children away from the emasculating effects of Roman education. When Britain colonized Ireland, they instituted a filthy educational system to keep the Irish stupid. The Irish held their children from going to school for two years. This is documented by Padraic Pearse the famous Irish Revolutionary who wrote about this with great eloquence. Pearse wrote: "The educational system the English have instituted in Ireland is a Murder Machine; the schools are soulless and instead of teaching they destroy; they cannot make men but they can break them. We will keep the children home instead sending them to the murder machine called schools". Two things should stand out to you after reading these: 1) that your question has been answered, 2) that when people are faced with the evils of colonialism, they must protect their children from it and, 3) that holding back children from a filthy educational system was not invented by the Southern Cameroons freedom fighters.It dates back more than a thousand years.

PN












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From: Tabong Kima <bakebe1@msn.com>
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Sent: Wed, Jul 12, 2017 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [MECA-MN] Fw: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...

Mr. Edward Tanyi,
I want to give you my last word on this matter because I really abhor wasting my time in futile debates. I believe within my soul that at this moment in my life, my time and energies should be directed to the struggle of my people to be free from the colonial yoke of LRC not in debates with people who don't have a good grasp of the subject matter that they grappling with. 
Without rebutting any of the points I made in my last write-up, you have now come out swinging wildly albeit with the zeal and enthusiasm of a novice, making counter-factual declaratory statements. You declared so confidently but very erroneously that LRC does not care if the children in SC go to school. Contrary to that assertion, the colonial government in Yaounde is shaking in its boots because they are a signatory member of UNESCO so the international pressure on Mr Biya is enormous. You also said keeping the children from school does not have any consequences on the government of LRC. You vibrate these bromides carelessly and to the uninitiated that might pass for truth but not to someone like myself who has drank and drank deeper from the Pierian Spring.
First, have you ever thought of why an authenticated certificate from one country is accepted in another? The reason is because UNESCO has guidelines and standards which every signatory member must follow and meet; and that has made educational standards around the world roughly equivalent. One of the guidelines is length of school year and if a signatory country does not meet the minimum required months in a section or the whole country, the certificates issued that year in the whole country are declared null and void. When the francophones wake up one morning and find that their certificates have been declared null by UNESCO, even the usual docility will crow and there will be consequences. Do you get my drift? Make an effort to be conversant with UNESCO Recognition and Validation of Certificates Commission, UNESCO Policy on Accreditation and Global Education and UNESCO Education Quality Accreditation Commission and you will understand my point better.
You come across as a pseudo-intellectual that did not hesitate to question my bona fides as a democrat. I honestly don't owe you an answer. I would however address the apples and oranges comparison you made of Southern Cameroons-a colony of LRC and Europe . If you had drank deeper of the Pierian Spring, you would have known that from 78 AD  to 83 AD the Britons who were colonial subjects of Rome did not send their children to school to protest the kind of education the Roman colonizers gave them. Despite the heavy-handed policy of the the Roman Governor called Agricola as documented by Tacitus, the Britons kept their children away from the emasculating effects of Roman education. When Britain colonized Ireland, they instituted a filthy educational system to keep the Irish stupid. The Irish held their children from going to school for two years. This is documented by Padraic Pearse the famous Irish Revolutionary who wrote about this with great eloquence. Pearse wrote: "The educational system the English have instituted in Ireland is a Murder Machine; the schools are soulless and instead of teaching they destroy; they cannot make men but they can break them. We will keep the children home instead sending them to the murder machine called schools". Two things should stand out to you after reading these: 1) that your question has been answered, 2) that when people are faced with the evils of colonialism, they must protect their children from it and, 3) that holding back children from a filthy educational system was not invented by the Southern Cameroons freedom fighters.It dates back more than a thousand years.
Lastly, I am not going to respond to anything that is extraneous to the debate about schools reopening. Your diatribe that meanders into the history of German colonization is inconsequential to this debate. I must however tell you that the entire period of German Kamerun was 17 years. Your schizophrenic argument that "objectively and legally, there is no LRC" can embarrass even a two year old so I will not touch that one.
Tabong Kima

From: Tanyi <tanyioben@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:25:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [MECA-MN] Fw: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...
 
Mr. Edward Tanyi, I don't know you personally but, I am trying to exercise some restraint not to use adjectives to your person. Be reminded that your postings on this forum are mind-burging, especially to our generation that was forced out of Cameroon by your corrupt government.

In the course of time you won't be able to read nor post on this platform because you will no longer have the opportunity to do so. 

You must be hallucinated to compare your blood sucking regime system of governance to the western world when you make allusion to depriving children of education. Can you explain the basic reason why a family would invest in sending a child to school in Cameroon in particular and the developing countries in general? In my case and many others, the main reason our illiterate parents sent us to school is to get a job after graduation. This notion of human investment is nonexistent in the Cameroonian context. 

Some of you of the earlier generations have become so myopic to come to the realities of the 21st century because you are basking in wealth from the opportunities of your times. In one of your diatribe, I read that you will be providing jobs for hundreds but, until that happens you have no story to tell us on this forum when it relates to the current West Cameroon struggle against over half a century of marginalization. 

You made mention of Muna et al for selling West Cameroon and their children are well-to-do. From every indication, you would have done the same or even worst if in their positions. 

The next time I will have to respond to your email, if at all any, you won't like it. Be mindful of the fact that this platform is being hosted by those in the western world who couldn't find jobs in your corrupt government or were forced out of the country by corrupt individuals like you. So, stop this provocation if you do not have anything to offer towards thecurrent struggle and maiming of oppressed by your oppressor regime. 

Have a day. 

Oben 



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From: EDWARD TANYI <eddytanyi@hotmail.com>
Date: 7/11/17 14:14 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [MECA-MN] Fw: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...

Mr. Tabong Kima good day.

After reading your write-up , this is what I have to say: No one has the monopoly of knowledge, but this is what you seem to think. 
I would like you to bear in mind that if the English speaking zone does not go to school it does not have any consequence on the Cameroon Government. If you have any clue that the Government of Cameroon is worried about the English-speaking zone not going to school  then you are actually saying that the Government of Biya  is virtuous, for mark you all those  who are saying that schooling should be suspended as long as their  political goals are not attained, will be judged by the kids of today in the future , especially because it shows how selfish they are. After they have had their own education to the fullest, they want the kids to sit and wait for their unattainable goals. Mr. Kima. most of you use  the West  as an example of political maturity and economic advancement, but can you cite just one  European Country where kids have been stopped from going to school because of political aims and ambitions not  war?  Are you truly a democrat? If so allow others to give  their points of view.  I want you to tell me and everyone on this platform what name you give to the country or Region (if you prefer this term) that existed under the Germans, that is before the  world wars. I would like you to tell us who is an Anglophone and who is a Francophone. (definition) And last but not the least, I would like  to tell you that objectively  and legally speaking, there is nothing like La Republique du Cameroun now, and there is nothing like Southern Cameroon now. These concepts are erroneous and misleading. I believe in a Federal system, which S.T Muna and Co. sold for 30 pieces of silver, and their children are better off today,  but this is not the way to re-establish it. I strongly believe that   Federalism is the best way forward. it  is not only good for Anglophones , it is  also good for the whole Cameroon. Apart from bringing Development  to the whole national triangle, it would expose our Regional and individual weaknesses, and emptiness,  and  enable us all to think in a more positive and selfless way.
have a great day.
Edward T.



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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [MECA-MN] Fw: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...
 
For some time now, I have decided to stay off these internet arguments about Southern Cameroons because I have since Aprilconcentrated my energies in making things actually happen on behalf of the struggle. In addition to that, some of these internet key-board warriors or naysayers are simply inconsequential and do not deserve my time. I do however read everything on all the fora that I am subscribed to. This is because I understand that keeping abreast with the general thinking of our people is essential in the battle to win  hearts and minds. That is the reason why from time to time, I do respond when I think some harmful but enticing idea is gaining ground and and requires a firm rebuttal. The level and quantity of simple mindedness that passes for sophistication in e-groups and social media is baffling especially when it comes to the struggle going on in our home land. 
Those who espouse the idea that schools should resume in September because not resuming school at that time will deprive the kids from becoming engineers, lawyers, nurses and so forth have in my opinion, not spent any time to contemplate  the most grotesque  and horrible inventions of La Republique du Cameroun (LRC)  to perpetuate their colonial machinations. They have also failed to see that not going to school is the best trump-card we are holding at this point; evidenced by the fact that LRC is more worried about it than any other aspect of civil disobedience going on in SC. Worse, these back-to-school proponents are so myopic that they fail to see that the debasement of the educational system of Southern Cameroons is the most effective way to kill and emasculate our society. The moral equivalence of castrating all men in any given society is to give them a filthy educational system so the kids who are staying home are safe as they avoid subjecting themselves to mental and colonial slavery. If the children resume schooling, what kind of schools would they go back to?  To the simulacrum of an educational system where kids are taught in French or pidgin English by french peaking teachers? What kind of education do you think a boy in Bakebe will get when his teacher is teaching him in a language he does not understand while on the other hand, his teacher does not understand him? The aim of an educational system is to foster, not to retard. More so, education must inspire and foster the growth of personality not to emasculate and enslave. When a peoples' educational system is debased deliberately by a foreign agent, that is evil. I must repeat the words of one wise man who said: "one can only be at peace with God when he is at war with the powers of evil". I will conclude with Ghandhi who said "a filthy educational system will unman us and render us helpless and Godless". Those who do not see that we are resisting an insidious attempt by LRC to empty our people of manliness and mental slavery are neither clear-sighted nor contemplative.
Tabong Kima

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Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 7:10:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [MECA-MN] Fw: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...
 
Nchem Rudolf is perfectly correct. We can not deny our children the possibilities of
becoming engineers, doctors, lawyers because we need federalism be it 10 state
or 2 states.
How are we going to compensate these children who will end up roaming the street
because they have nothing to offer professionally or the academia.
We should think and give these children a chance to develop their God given talents.
Thanks
Prince Peter Ashu Kima.


On Friday, July 7, 2017 2:40 AM, "Greig Batey bateygreig20@yahoo.ca [MECA-MN]" <MECA-MN@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 



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Subject: Re: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...

Let us think of other means of continuing thus battle.... .wrote Nchem Rudolf.

Let's also hear from you the other means we can use to continue the struggle.

1)We go to the streets to demonstrate...... You get killed by their army
2)We vote they rig the vote in their favour
3) Federation, they say NO
4) Dialogue Biya says  NO
Mr Nchem Rudolf you can carry you and family, cross the Mungo River and enslave you and your family to " THEM ".
We aboriginals S C are out.



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Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:48 PM
Subject: [Cameroon Vision] LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf...

  Nyama Moliki posted in Cameroon Vision .       Nyama Moliki July 6 at 11:48pm   LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf often speaks with the voice of reason. In September let schools resume and let lawyers return to court. The anglophone Cameroonian is facing neocolonialism and attempted assimilation from francophones. Despite a few gains made the situation remains largely unchanged . However we cannot continue to sacrifice the education of our children for another school year. The struggle must continue but let children who are in school have a chance to also become intellectuals like many of you in this forum. We can demonstrate, we can match, we can vote against parties opposed to the anglophone cause, we can press for federalism. In my opinion the formation of a separate independent Southern Cameroons state shall be accompanied by civil war and bloodshed. Africans don't recognize the self determination of peoples. If they did, millions would not have died in Biafra, Eritrea and Southern Sudan. Let us think of other means of continuing thus battle.   Like Comment    
   
 
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LET SCHOOLS RESUME IN SEPTEMBER. Nchem Rudolf often speaks with the voice of reason. In September let schools resume and let lawyers return to court. The anglophone Cameroonian is facing neocolonialism and attempted assimilation from francophones. Despite a few gains made the situation remains largely unchanged . However we cannot continue to sacrifice the education of our children for another school year. The struggle must continue but let children who are in school have a chance to also become intellectuals like many of you in this forum. We can demonstrate, we can match, we can vote against parties opposed to the anglophone cause, we can press for federalism. In my opinion the formation of a separate independent Southern Cameroons state shall be accompanied by civil war and bloodshed. Africans don't recognize the self determination of peoples. If they did, millions would not have died in Biafra, Eritrea and Southern Sudan. Let us think of other means of continuing thus battle.
 
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