Re: [MTC Global] WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART?

Dear All,

Image is a relative term, one out of many derivatives of culture, as perceived by one at a given moment of time. Hence positive or negative perception (image) as perceived by one is subjective, rather relative and not absolute. Obviously,  such image perception does not represent the true culture (or nature) of a community. Let us have a balanced perception, focus more on positive (bright side of ) image.

My thanks to both Professor Stephen and Professor Kuldeep for their lively discussion..

Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
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E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
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From: Kuldeep Nagi
Sent: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:04:45
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART?

Well said, Dr. Steven. In a nutshell, it is about the survival of the fittest. Most often, the chances favor the prepared mind. I must say that the images of Israelis in this forum are pretty positive. But in some quarters in New York, they also have a very negative image. I remember people saying that a Jew will pick up a penny from shit using his lips without smelling anything? In some quarters in America, we have the same derogatory or negative image of Marwari's and Gujarati's. In a nutshell, images are what they are? In some quarters Jews and Japanese are seen smart, and in others, they have a very different image. I remember a time when the Shahs and Patel's from Gujarat were restricted entry in the USA because they were engaged in every illegal activity to bring their family members to America. They were unofficially blacklisted. So there you have it. According to many astute academics, the business intelligence of Jews, Gujarati, Marwari or any other group has lots of elements of deceit.  Should we call it talent? In some quarters, same is the image of Sindhis? In the end, every group, or for that matter, an ethnic group does have its historical footprints, positive or negative, for the right or wrong reasons. In my opinion, ethnicity has very little to do talent? Anybody can be talented, including a horse. 



  Kuldeep Nagi, PhD
Bangkok, Thailand
66-846374466




join_mtc@googlegroups.com <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Stephen Narayanan <stepnrn@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 7:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART?
 
Well....now the topic is really warming up....contrary to my expectation of a volley the group has exhibited tolerance and maturity and full marks to one an all of the group.
Moving on now from induced/cultivated talent to God gifted talent and natural talent developed in people which I have observed. Sindhi's and Marwaadi's and their counterparts in the north ( Aggrawal's & Gupta's & Jains ) have natural inherent business sense. They may not have high class education but they have a knack of understanding the ring of money in the business and adapt naturally to decision making in business. Flipkart, Snapdeal, Myntra...all the Online Marketing start-ups have one common thing...all were promoted by Marwadi's.
I would like to take you for a preview of the jews who fled the nazi persecution and were scattered all over the world. A sizeable community of jews can be found in Mumbai and also in Gujarat. Some of the Jews who landed in Antwerp took to Diamond trade and were very successful. The the Shah's from Gujarat also landed there in the 1950's- 60's and they started competing with the jews. In a span of a couple of decades, they overthrew the jews. The points which worked in the favor of Shah's from gujarat were: Cheap Labor, Family to give them company & commitment to work for long hours. On the Jews side, their tradition of not working on sabbath day...being away from family and the high cost of living/expenses led to their fall. Am attaching the link below which I am sure would make interesting reading for all:

https://qz.com/459422/how-indian-families-took-over-the-antwerp-diamond-trade-from-orthodox-jews/



Enjoy....
Regards,
Stephen

Stephen Narayanan
Freelance Educational Consultant/Corporate Training facilitator
Mob.:-9868386192

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 9:17 AM, 'Vijendra Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Some of the Hindu organization  volunteers started to teach parents about 'how to get good offspring's through some ancient techniques. I am not aware of details. I read some time back that Garbhopanishad, Brihadaaryaka Upanishad (Mantras as well as sexual intercourse methods!) and Ayurveda talks about begetting good offspring.
Regards,
Prof. Vijendra Kumar S.K.
Assistant Professor & Counseling Psychologist,
Centre for Counseling and Career Guidance,
PES University, Bengaluru.




On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 11:04:48 PM GMT+5:30, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:


Thanks Prof. kumarji.

Abhimanu's case is well known to all Hindus and it is being recited generation to generation but its moral/ scientific and plan-full observance is rarely done. Other notable examples are Shivaji, Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, Swami Vivekananda, Saint Dnyaneswar, Ishvarchandra Vidyasagar, Ramkrishna Paramhansa, and many more. In some castes till today many similar rituals are observed but neglected or casually performed under the disguise of modernity.

From: Kumar K <mpi678@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:01:35
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART?
I borrow the words: Nurturing fetus from honorable Dr. P.H.Wagodhekarji's comment. In Mahabharata one reference comes. One night Arjuna was telling to her wife "How to enter Chakravihu?"

 But he could complete half the story stating only "how to enter the Chakravihu" and his wife slept soundly. She could not hear rest of the story that stated "how to come out of Chakravihu" . And it is believed that had the wife listened to the whole of the story, Arjuna's son Abhimanyu would have not been killed in the Chakravihu created by Kaurvas. 

So, what the mother listens,sees, eats and under which environment she lives definitely impacts the mental make up of the child.  It is the belief in various cultures throughout world. Yes, anecdotes may be different suiting to the culture. 

Prof P.K.keshap. 



2017-07-13 18:24 GMT+05:30 Kuldeep Nagi <kuldeepn@hotmail.com>:

I THINK WE SHOULD NOT IGNORE THE ENVIRONMENT THAT NURTURES THE TALENT. THE STUDENTS WHO GOES TO AMERICA AND DOES WELL WILL CERTAINLY STRUGGLE OR FAIL IN INDIA. THE REASONS ARE OBVIOUS. IT HAS LESS TO DO WITH THEIR ROOTS OR CULTURE AND MORE TO DO WITH OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES A SOCIETY PROVIDES. AMERICA IS WORK CULTURE. IT IS A PLACE WHERE WORKING HARD ALWAYS LEAD TO BETTER OUTCOMES. 


WHILE I WAS WORKING IN AMERICA I ALSO HEARD THAT JAPANESE WERE SMART.  INDIANS WERE STEREOTYPED AS TASK MASTERS, NOT REALLY TALENTED. NOW WE KNOW IT, IT IS NOT TRUE. SMART PEOPLE ARE FOUND IN EVERY NOOK AND CORNER OF THIS PLANET. 


  Kuldeep Nagi, PhD
Bangkok, Thailand
66-846374466




From: waghodekar@rediffmail.com <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> on behalf of Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART?
 

The analysis done is scientific and carries many invaluable suggestions how to create next generations smart. My take is:

  1. Nurturing fetus.
  2. Inculcating good eating habits and brain training till the early age of 6 to 9 years.
  3. Nurturing the mundane life on the foundation of (2) above.

Great experiments were carried out by Indian ancient sages on how to beget the next generation bright and smart. Among many like training the foetus, giving gold water to just born baby, upanayan, etc., Varna Sankar prevention was one of them. Even today, in villages some approaches do exist but in diluted form mostly based on traditions losing scientific approach. We know those who eat fish and rice are brilliant people like Bengali or Konkani, consumption of dry fruits like almond, ac-rode, cashew nuts, etc., butter milk, vegetable diet, taking food before sun set, etc.

Under the name of modernity, we have abandoned all these. I wonder why  Indian students do miracle in foreign countries, regarded as bright students? The root lies in their culture.

Let us revisit our life style.


Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.


Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!


From: PRADIP BURMAN RAY
Sent: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:21:28
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com, drjaganmohanreddy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART?

Dear Mr. Reddy,

Thanks for the nice article.

PRADIP BURMAN RAY


On Jul 11, 2017 12:37 PM, "Jagan Mohan Reddy" <drjaganmohanreddy@gmail.com> wrote:
WHY ARE JEWS SO SMART? 
By Dr. Stephen Carr Leon

Since the turn of the century (i.e., since the year 2000), Jews have been awarded 25% of all 
Nobel Prizes and 27% of those in the scientific research fields. (Jews currently make up approximately 
0.2%of the world's population and 2% of the US population.)

Since I spent about 3 years in Israel for internship in a few hospitals there, it came to my mind about
 doing research on  "Why the Jews are Intelligent." 

It goes without denial that Jews are ahead in all aspects of life such as engineering, music, science and 
most obviously  in business -  nearly 70% of world trade/business are held by the Jews - in cosmetics, 
food, fashion, arms, hotels and film industries (Hollywood etc). 

During my 2nd year, I was about to go back to California. This idea came to me and I was wondering why 
God gave this gift/ability to them? Is this a coincidence? Or is it man-made? Can intelligent Jews be produced
 like goods from a factory? My research took about 8 yrs to gather all the information as accurately as possible,
 like their food intake, culture, religion, initial preparation of pregnancy, etc and I would compare them with other races. 

Let's start with initial preparation of pregnancy. In Israel, the first thing I noticed is that a pregnant mother would 
always sing n play the piano n wld always try to solve mathematical problems together with her husband. I was very 
surprised to see the pregnant women always carry math books. Sometimes I would help her to solve some problems.
 I would ask, "Is this for your child in the womb?" She would answer, "Yes to train the child still in the womb so that it 
would be a genius later on". She would solve maths problems without let-up until the child is born. 

Another thing I noticed is about their food.  The pregnant women loved to eat almonds and dates with milk.  For lunch
 she would take bread and fish (without the head), salad mixed with almonds and other nuts. They believe fish is good
 for the development of the brain and that fish head is bad for the brain. And also it is in the culture of the Jews for 
pregnant mothers to take cod liver oil. 

When I was invited for dinner, I noticed that they always like to eat fish (flesh and fillet) and no meat. According to their
 belief, meat and fish together will not give any benefit to our body. Salad and nuts is a must, especially  almonds. 

They would always eat fruits first before the main meal. Their belief is that if you eat the main meal first (like bread or rice)
 & then fruits, this will make us feel sleepy and difficult to understand lessons in school. 

In Israel, smoking is a taboo. If you are a guest, don't smoke in their house, they would politely ask you to go out to smoke. 
According to scientists in  Univrsities  in Israel, nicotine would destroy cells in our brain and will affect the genes and DNA, 
resulting in generations of moron or defective brain. All smokers  please  take note (Ironically, the biggest producer of cigarettes
 is… you know who...). 

The food intake for the child is always under the guidance of the parents. First, the fruits with almonds, followed by cod liver oil.
 In my assessment, most Jewish children know at least 3 languages i.e. Hebrew, Arabic and English. Since childhood they would
 be trained in playing the piano and violin - it is a must. 

They believe that this practice will increase the IQ of the child and will make him a genius.  According to Jewish scientists, the vibration
 of the music would stimulate the brain.  That is why there are lots of geniuses among the Jews.

Since grade 1 to 6, they would be taught business mathematics. Science subjects would be their first preference. As comparison, I 
could see the IQ of children in California is about 6 years back. Jewish children are also involved in athletics such as archery, shooting 
and running. They believe that archery and shooting would make the brain more focused on decision-making and precision. 
In high school, students are more inclined to study science.  They would create products; indulge in all sorts of projects (although some
look very funny or useless). But all attention is given seriously - especially if it is on armaments, medicine or engineering. A successful
 project or idea would be introduced in higher institutes, polytechnics or universities. 

The Business faculty is given more preference in the last year of university.  Students in business would be given a project and they can 
only pass if their group (about 10 in a group) can make a profit of USD1 million!

Don't be surprised - this is the reality. And that is why half of the business in the world is held by the Jews e.g. who designed the latest Levis? 
 It is being designed in an Israel university by the Faculty of Business and Fashion!

Have you seen how they pray?  They always shake their heads - they believe this action will stimulate and provide more oxygen to the brain 
(same thing with Islam where you need to bow down your head). 

Look at the Japanese, they always bow down their heads as their culture - lots of them are smart - they love sushi (fresh fish). Is this a coincidence? 

In the USA, the commercial/trading centers for the Jews are based in New York - catering only for the Jews. If any Jew has any beneficial idea,
 their committee will give free interest loans and will make sure the business prosper. Thus Jewish companies like Starbucks, Dell Computers,
 Coca Cola, DKNY, Oracle, Levis, Dunkin Donut, Hollywood films and hundreds other businesses were given free sponsorship. 

Jewish medical graduates in New York were encouraged to register with them and allowed to practice privately with this interest-free loan. Now I 
know why most hospitals in New York and California always lack specialist doctors. 

Smoking will lead to generations of moron. During my visit to Singapore in 2005, I was surprised to see smokers are regarded as outcasts and the 
price of a pack of cigarettes is about USD 7. Like in Israel it is a taboo. Singapore's form of government is similar to the Israelis. And that is the reason
 why most of their universities are of high standards, even though Singapore is only as big as Manhattan. 

Look at Indonesia, everywhere people are smoking. The price of a pack of cigarettes is very cheap only USD 0.70 cents! The result is millions of
 people with very few intelligent. You can count the number of universities, what product they produced that they can be proud of, low technology, 
can't speak other than their own language, e.g. why is it so difficult for them to master the English language? All this is due to smoking, their diet, culture. 

In my thesis, I do not touch on religion or race - why the Jews are so arrogant that they were being chased around since the time of the Pharaoh until Hitler. 
For me it is about politics and survival. The bottom line is: Can we produce intelligent generations just like the Jews??

The answer could be yes. We need to change our daily habits of eating, parenting, etc. and maybe within 3 generations, it could be achieved. 
This I could observe in my grandson, for example, at the age of 9 he could write a 5-page essay on "Why I love tomato" 

May all of us be in peace and succeed in producing future  generations of genius for the betterment of humankind, no matter who you are.
Dr A Jagan Mohan Reddy

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