Mr. Mishe Fon,
Happy New Year! This is Emmanuel Konde, the Guru, writing. You mis-characterize me as an arrogant chest-thumbing historian. I do not chest-thumb; I write about the obvious. I am not a historian; I am a student of history. Nearly nine years in graduate school could not be expended on studying history. I received graduate training in public administration (1982-83), political philosophy and international relations (1983-84), European history (1984-85), African studies (anthropology, African history, economic history); Comparative Politics; United States foreign relations, European Diplomatic history.
My doctoral comprehensive examination encompassed African studies, European Diplomatic history, Comparative Politics and United States Foreign Relations. I elected to conduct research on women and politics in Cameroon because it was an area of research that had not been adequately explored. I was lucky to be allowed to select what I wanted to study. When my professors were satisfied and convinced of my mastery of the disciplines I had selected, they summoned me to a meeting and told me it was time to leave. I registered for the comprehensive examination, took it and passed (1988); wrote my reserach proposal (1989); went to Cameroon for field research (1989-1990); and composed my dissertation and successfully defended it (1991).
I am not bragging... just presenting you with the raw facts. How can I help it if in my presentation of arguments against ill-thought-out views I come accross as knowledgeable? What exactly do you expect of and from me?
"The problem of power is how to get men of power to live for the public rather than off the public." Robert F. Kennedy
From: Mishe Fon <mishefon@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Jackson // Re: Mr. Owona // Re: THE BUSHFALLERS, Prologue
Instead of commenting about Toto Guillaume's Elimbi (a very good Makossa Ambassador...in fact one of the best) in the good Dokta's excellent "Bush Fallers" narrative, methinks, we should focus on the merits and demerits of the phenomenon as chronicled by the historian. It is a scholarly article which has exploitable data that could be used as reference for other research topics in understanding Cameroon Social dynamics. As arrogant and chest thumping as the author usually is, I must admit that he has a very brilliant mind, a very witty penmanship and captures the imagination of what common folks like some of us can only have in our fantasies. But I must hasten to remind everyone reading, that many other Authors have written on this same topic like the example here below:
Mishe Fon
FROM DUST TO SNOW
Traveling and living abroad can be a wonderful and rewarding experience, a dream come true for some, but it can also be a horrific and interminable nightmare. "From Dust to Snow: Bush-Faller" chronicles the true-life experiences of (Bush-Fallers) Africans (primarily Cameroonians), in Europe and the United States. Featuring more than twenty accounts from students, asylum seekers and the employed, contributors in this work of 'edutainment' ferry you through their experiences, first-hand, from the moment the idea of traveling overseas was conceived, through departure emotions, first impressions upon arrival, culture shock, hardships, comic moments, high points of each life, and even re-entry shock, including deportation. One way or the other, you should find yourself on one of the pages of this book, either as a foreigner or as a host. Prepare yourself for what is about to happen; Discover the African Dream, a Dream far bigger than Bush-falling.
This book fits into a very special class of its own. The experiences narrated are myriad yet compelling; they are enriching and inspiring. The timing is exquisite, given the craze, dreams and puzzles that adorn the now popular "bush falling" phenomenon in Cameroon and other developing countries. This is such a rare treasure that must be given its legitimate position on all personal, family and school bookshelves. (Peter Shu-Nfor Tangyie)
Go round Europe and the U.S.A. in a few hours by reading this exciting work. Written in simple, colloquial English, this easy to read but also highly educative book amalgamates on-the-spot experiences from people of all ages, walks of life, social class and sex. It is a must read to all African youths, especially UNIVERSITY students. It is worth more than every dime and calorie you spend on it. Ayu'nwi N. Nebafusi (University of Buea, Cameroon.)
The stories all sound like fiction but they are real life experiences; thrilling, funny, sad, too real to be true. FROM DUST TO SNOW is a recommendable reference for all, the young and the old, dying to "fall bush." Mrs Magarate and Dr Chemuta Banda (President of the Human rights Freedoms Commission, Yaounde Cameroon)
About the Author
Dr Wilfred and Lydia Ngwa were born in Cameroon. As Africans living in Europe and the US, they found themselves in a unique position to interact with many internationals (mostly other Africans) coming for studies, asylum and work. This book would not be possible without the willingness and openness of these people to share their experiences, however joyful or painful; foremost thanks go to them. They are the real authors of the stories.
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:00 AM, "ngunimicrowave@aol.com" <ngunimicrowave@aol.com> wrote:
Jackson,
I am 100% sure you are terribly mistaken. FYI, Toto G released "Elimbi" was in 1985 under Production TN label. Toto Guillaume's first album was "Dibonga" released in 1977 under Afro Disc label.
Do not confuse when he made name and when he went solo. Some artists release many song before making their first hit. Most people knew Fela R. Kuti after the release of Lady or Shakara whereas Fela had already released songs "Fogo-Fogo", "Njeun Kwoku", etc., many years before "Lady".
Many also believe that "Sweet Mother" was Prince Nico's first album whereas he had already released many SP's and LP's like "I No Go Marry My Papa", Suffer Dey", "Man Don Tire", etc., many years before the release of "Sweet Mother".
It may be surprising to you that "Elimbi" was the sixth release of Toto Guilaume in 1985. Between his first album "Dibonga" and his sixth "Elimbi", Toto released four other albums under Disques Esperance label.
Micro
In a message dated 1/5/2014 9:28:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jacksonnanje@yahoo.com writes:
Sir. George Owona,Even the Great Micro is wrong on this one. Toto Guillaume last appearance on Cameroon"s musical platform was in 1984 with the Album "Elimbi na Ngomo" with songs like "Bato ba" and "Ndome" on it. We cannot and should not argue about this. I remember a schoolmate of mine, now a freshman parliamentarian, Bolive Mbanya, rushing into my hostel, on hearing me blast "Bato Ba" across hall screaming "this guy will kill me, this guy will kill me". He was referring to Toto Guillaume. I thought someone was chasing him. That is the same year, 1984, that he left for high school studies. So the year of Elimbi's release cannot be in 1985 as opined by the Great Pa Jacob, and Professor Konde's recollection date of the song's release is way off mark. www.nanjecreativethinking.blogspot.com www.youtube.com/NanjeMusicProduction www.nexsans.blogspot.com www.orokousa.org www.dideco.org www.nexsa.org "Resentment is like drinking poison and hoping that it will kill your enemy" Nelson Madiba Mandela "We must not continue to run away and allow our public opinions and the free expression of them become the enterprise of intolerance and incivility" Christmas Ebini "The Oroko intelligentsia is gifted with an eloquence that does not give blessings to development". Dr. Monica Njanjokuma "If you should know how much money you have in your bank account, then you should consider yourself a poor man" Michael Namaya. "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people" Eleanor Roosevelt. "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" Benjamin Franklin " Creditors have better memories than debtors" Benjamin Franklin "If the only thing you have in your hand is a hammer, you tend to see everything else as a nail" Abraham Maslow. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do" Benjamin Franklin "Freedom granted by the oppressor is never the same as freedom won by the oppressed" Prof. Emmanuel Konde. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 1/5/14, Owona Georges Jules <ogeorgesjules@yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Mr. Owona // Re: THE BUSHFALLERS, Prologue To: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, January 5, 2014, 7:30 AM Dear Micro, I don't think Dr Konde made a typing error because he describes that epoch as the "waning years of Ahmadou Ahidjo's Cameroon". Paul Biya was only "appointed" to the presidency in 1982, three years before Toto Guillaume released "Elimbi". Therefore I prefer your second hypothesis, namely that he missed the point. Sent from my iPhone 5S On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:54 AM, ngunimicrowave@aol.com wrote: M. Owona, You are right. I guess Dr. Konde either made a typo error or just missed it. Elimbi Na Ngomo Poso, if that is the song you guys are talking about, by Toto Guillaume was released in 1985 and not 1975. If Dr. Konde was already in the US by 1985, then he must be talking of a different song probably from Les Black Styl, a band that released some Makossa hit songs in the 70's like Mba Na Na with Toto Guillaume on the lead guitar and Nkotti Francois on vocals. Toto Guillaume actually went solo in 1977 and so could not have released any song as a solo artist on or before 1975. I do not know whether Bay Hotel, Victoria, was even still functioning (with a live band) in the 80's as it was in the 70's. In the 70's there were a lot of clubs/bars/hotels with live bands in the former West Cameroon. Victoria had Bay Hotel, Centenary Hotel and Soul Jungle at Half Mile. Tiko had Airport Hotel and Domino Bar Kumba had Lido Bar, Ringo Bar and Gentil Bar Mamfe had Confidence Hotel Bamenda had about 7 live bands at one point. Muyuka, Mutengene, Bali and Mbonge had live bands as well. Micro In a message dated 1/5/2014 3:52:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ogeorgesjules@yahoo.com writes: Dr Konde, Accept praises for the excellent narrative. However, I am a bit sceptical about the fact that you were gyrating to the deafening blast of "Elimbi" by Toto Guillame in Bay Hotel in 1975. My records may not be very correct and I would not like to start an argument with a Professor of History on a historical fact. Were you really dancing "Elimbi", by Toto Guillame in 1975? It seems I danced it much later when it was just released. Sent from my iPhone 5S On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Emmanuel Konde <ekonde07@yahoo.com> wrote: