Most of the students who join IITs for their postgraduate programs also apply for foreign universities in UK, USA, Canada, Australia and other countries. They also get admissions but they have to wait for assistantships. Mean while they continue the first semester at IITs and join the foreign universities for the second semester and also the credits are transferred. They save tution fees but get better assistanceships. As per IIT records they are termed as drop outs but they should have got transfer to another university. Their records are to be corrected and the linkage between these universities could be maintained. The registrars and the Academic deans could take steps for the change.
When the students leave the programs without completing the degree, exit interviews could be conducted and the reasons could be recorded.
Thanikachalam.V
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Every higher education institute need student services section like student personnel administration where the students could consult professionally trained counsellors. Even the experienced faculty who register for Ph.D have left without completing the degree. Periodically there should be assessment of academic environment and sufficient corrective interventions could be undertaken.
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New Delhi: Over 4,400 students dropped out of IITs and NITs in the last three years due to various reasons including "academic stress", the government said on Thursday and assured that corrective actions have been initiated. As many as 2,060 students dropped out from various Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) from 2012-13 to 2014-15, Human Resource Development Minister Smriti Irani informed the Lok Sabha during Question Hour. During this three-year period, 2,352 students dropped out from the National Institutes of Technology (NITs)."The reasons for dropouts may be attributed to shifting to other colleges/institutions, personal reasons, medical reasons, getting jobs during PG courses, inability to cope with academic stress etc," Irani said in a written reply.
In 2014-15, IITs witnessed 757 dropouts which was higher than 697 dropouts (2013-14) and 606 (2012-13). During this period, IIT Roorkee saw the highest number of dropouts at 228, followed by IIT Kharagpur (209) and IIT Delhi (169). Interestingly, there were no dropouts at IITs in Mandi, Jodhpur, Kanpur, Madras and Ropar during 2014-15 period.
There are 16 IITs and 30 NITs in the country.
Of the NITs, there were 717 dropouts in 2014-15, lower than 785 seen in the year-ago period. In 2012-13, the dropout numbers stood at 850.Irani said there is a mechanism for helping students who are under stress. The government is committed to address issues related to academic stress, she added.
Listing out various initiatives that are in place to minimise dropouts at IITs, Irani said there is a guidance and counselling unit, headed by a faculty member. It works closely along with a number of faculty counsellors and advisors to "identify students facing emotional difficulties and guide them to professional counsellors for help". Interestingly, while responding to a supplementary query on whether academic pressure is causing suicide by IIT students, Irani asserted this was "incorrect". Referring to the member, the Minister said his indication that "children in the IIT ecosystem and IIT family are committing suicides because they are unable to keep up with the pressure that the academic environment in the IIT has, is incorrect".
Irani also assured that any challenge that IIT students present to the faculty within the IIT ecosystem would be met in a supportive fashion.
To another query, she said, "I had said that I contest the fact that there is no mechanism available within the IITs to address issues with regard to either academic stress" or that more problems are faced by children from weaker segments of society.
"I would like to firmly state here with all humility that to say that students do not take stress is not a statement that I made. I said that we have provided a mechanism that a student under stress within this eco system can approach and seek help and guidance from," Irani noted. She was responding to AIADMK member M Thambidurai, also the Deputy Speaker, who asked the Minister about the anomaly in the written and oral responses.
To a query about IIT Roorkee expelling 73 students last month for less academic scores, Irani said the IIT's action was challenged in court. The court had upheld IITs' right to ensure that academic performance, that the students themselves gave an undertaking to uphold, was met."IIT, Roorkee undertook an initiative to take these students back only if they yet again fulfill those academic standards that they gave an undertaking when they entered into the system," she noted. AIADMK member P Sundaram asked her about the issue at IIT, Chennai where students were apparently prevented from enriching their knowledge through forums like Periyar-Ambedkar Study Circle. In response, Irani said in the case of IIT Chennai, it is the institution, the Academic Executive Council and the Students Council which has elected representatives of student bodies within the institution, that set benchmarks for activities undertaken by any individual within that campus.
Subject: [MTC Global] Correction in tech education
After a steady proliferation of engineering institutions over the last three years, the number has dipped marginally in the cur rent academic year.
As per figures provided by the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE), the number of undergraduate colleges offering engineering courses rose from 3,370 in 2012 to 3,391 in 2015. However, for the academic year 2015-16, the number dipped marginally to 3,388 colleges.
The same pattern holds true for even postgraduate engineering colleges which saw a consistent increase in numbers over the last three years until the current academic year. The number of colleges rose from 1,920 in 2012 to 2,333 until last year. In 2015-16, the number has dipped slightly to 2323 colleges.
AICTE chairman Anil Sahasrabudhe said one of the reasons for the dip was the closure of colleges.While some closures may be due to quality issues, many colleges were shutting down on their own due to the imbalance in the demand-supply ratio between engineering seats and students.
"The number of colleges in the country has increased much beyond requirement. The demand is not proportionate to the number of c o l l e g e s t h a t h ave opened up. When the colleges are not able to fill even half the seats, what is the point of wasting the infrastructure? It is unviable for many colle g es who therefore are choosing to close down on their own," he said, adding that the total number of engineering seats across UG colleges reduced by nearly 35,000 from last year.
The mushrooming of engineering colleges in the past three years has also led to an increased intake capacity which again overshoots the demand for engineering seats. Consequently , vacant seat positions in engineering colleges have consistently increased -from 6 lakh vacancies in 2012-13 to 8.45 lakh vacancies in 2014-15.
The states that account for the bulk of these technical institutions are Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka and Madhya Pradesh.
In the previous year, half the engineering seats across the country went vacant with only 8.54 lakh students enrolling against the 16.99 lakh seats that were totally available.
Experts also pointed out that there may be many engineering colleges, but the quality of graduates they produce are not up to the mark. The AICTE chief himself said that only about 30% of engineering graduates were deemed employable by recruiters.
Apart from the quality of students entering the colleges, a major reason for the poor quality of graduates was attributed to lack of PhD faculty members with adequate exposure to industry.
As per figures provided by the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE), the number of undergraduate colleges offering engineering courses rose from 3,370 in 2012 to 3,391 in 2015. However, for the academic year 2015-16, the number dipped marginally to 3,388 colleges.
The same pattern holds true for even postgraduate engineering colleges which saw a consistent increase in numbers over the last three years until the current academic year. The number of colleges rose from 1,920 in 2012 to 2,333 until last year. In 2015-16, the number has dipped slightly to 2323 colleges.
AICTE chairman Anil Sahasrabudhe said one of the reasons for the dip was the closure of colleges.While some closures may be due to quality issues, many colleges were shutting down on their own due to the imbalance in the demand-supply ratio between engineering seats and students.
"The number of colleges in the country has increased much beyond requirement. The demand is not proportionate to the number of c o l l e g e s t h a t h ave opened up. When the colleges are not able to fill even half the seats, what is the point of wasting the infrastructure? It is unviable for many colle g es who therefore are choosing to close down on their own," he said, adding that the total number of engineering seats across UG colleges reduced by nearly 35,000 from last year.
The mushrooming of engineering colleges in the past three years has also led to an increased intake capacity which again overshoots the demand for engineering seats. Consequently , vacant seat positions in engineering colleges have consistently increased -from 6 lakh vacancies in 2012-13 to 8.45 lakh vacancies in 2014-15.
The states that account for the bulk of these technical institutions are Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka and Madhya Pradesh.
In the previous year, half the engineering seats across the country went vacant with only 8.54 lakh students enrolling against the 16.99 lakh seats that were totally available.
Experts also pointed out that there may be many engineering colleges, but the quality of graduates they produce are not up to the mark. The AICTE chief himself said that only about 30% of engineering graduates were deemed employable by recruiters.
Apart from the quality of students entering the colleges, a major reason for the poor quality of graduates was attributed to lack of PhD faculty members with adequate exposure to industry.
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