Re: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY

i get u. i think so too my brother --- On Thu, 6/28/12, kaavi melchizedek <kaavimelchizedek@yahoo.com> wrote: From: kaavi melchizedek <kaavimelchizedek@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 2:11 PM Mr Kwalar I do not think we should spend valuable time talking on trivial issues like this one. But we could if we are short of ideas. The Plan forwarded to us by the SCYL and Co is still standing!!!!        THE TRUTH ONLY MEAN SOMETHING IF THE PERSON           LISTENING TO IT UNDERSTANDS IT. . mk Chairman SCNC Belgium Melchizedek Kaavi Melim City(LGA) Northern Zone Bui County Southern Cameroon http://www.scncforsoutherncameroons.net Web:  http://www.scylforfreedom.org From: Napoleon Kwalar <makonsult@yahoo.com> To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:18 PM Subject: Re: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY Ok thank you Mr Yembe i probably missed that out.on the inability of Mr Nfor Nfor inviting Mr Ndangam.My problem is, was this really necessary?How would that have contributed to the overall objective of the French fela? Of course u are of the opinion that its Pa Ndangam or Dr Ngumne who have the locus standi as barons (to borrow ur word) of SCAPO to talk on Banjul or did Nfor Nfor actually claim credit on Banjul on behalf of SCNC? I need further clarifications on this from all of you! Thank you Napoleon Kwalar Nkambe plateau --- On Thu, 6/28/12, Martin Yembe <mfyembe@gmail.com> wrote: From: Martin Yembe <mfyembe@gmail.com> Subject: Re: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY To: "ftroit" <ftroit@hotmail.com> Cc: ambasbay@googlegroups.com, "Ngwang Gumne" <mustakebi@yahoo.co.uk>, "ambasbay@yahoogroups.com" <ambasbay@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 4:10 AM I am sorry that Pa Ndangam is not complaining on this however its Pa NGUMNE and Mr YEMBE.( Napoleon Kwalar) Napoleon Karawa, Sir. With all due respect, I implore you to go back to the mails and trace where "Yembe" jpoined Gumne to complain. It is a shame that some of us rush to conclusions, in a bid to clarify a point and instead rub ourselves up. Isn't it funny to hear you claiming that "Ngumne and Yembe" complained...when it is Yembe, in the last mail, who has been attempting to clarify the point that the French researcher surprised nfor nfor in the office and Nfor Nfor could not, if it was necessary, have the time to " consults Ndangam of SCAPO". Yembe acted just as a journalist when he watched the interview on DVD and wrote his story. Your misinformation concerning Yembe and Ngumne complaining is embarrassing, sir. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ftroit <ftroit@hotmail.com> wrote: I received a text message from a US Department of State official and senior friend who reads this site trying to understand why we insult each other in public forums. We may not see their presence on here folks should understand that as membership in forums as this one are free and open to all, officials from all sorts of governments (U.S. UK, France, LRC) obtain membership in sites and groups such as this one and kind of get a sense of where we are. My friend's observations (just yesterday) tell of a grim impression of the struggle. On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:52:19 AM UTC-4, NFOR NFOR wrote: Dr Gumne, Sir, Your second posting on the interview I granted to a French researcher whether questioning, attacking or blaming whoever has necessitated my reaction.  In the first you blamed me for not bringing in your Executive Vice for he is better informed than any of us on the Banjul issue. I have never contested such claims and we were not writing Mr Biya's concour here. I note that your worry stems from the fact that by talking about it alone, by implication I failed to give credit where it is due.  Was that the purpose of the interview? And should that have been my preoccupation? I am not oblivious of the blames, attacks and accusations I have received from you and SCAPO authorities which mean nothing to me.  You will notice that I have not been replying or reacting for obvious reasons.  Firstly we do not have the luxury you people have over there to be preoccupied with sterile issues which do not advance the struggle for freedom. Secondly I do not want to get involved in this blame, blame syndrome and personality cultism. It is exclusive. It does not build confidence. It does not bring people together. It is injurious to human dignity and good conscience. One thing which Mr. Martin Yembe did not say or saw no need to, is that he did not tell his readers that he did not attend the interview, he listened to it on a DVD and made his notes and published his article. I was surprised at what he was able to do and I praised him. And we should all do that for by his ability some of you who may never be opportune to listen to the DVD have had a word for or against which to me is human. Second point of correction: You blame me for not inviting Mr Ndangam, SCAPO Executive Vice Chairman.  You expected me to have told the French researcher to wait for me while I rushed to the USA or wherever and to bring Mr Ndangam?  Did he hand to me a list of questions so that I should have selected those to be answered by your Executive Vice? This war against the occupier is a collective issue and people must be educated on their rights to fight the enemy. I have said it before and here do reiterate – Banjul is not a personal property of any individual or group, it belongs to all British Southern Cameroonians just the  same as the victory/independence  when it comes will be.  We ahead, suffering as we are, are only messengers and stewards. Below the list of complainants it is put "for and on behalf of the Southern Cameroonian people." By this we have made history and we should thank God for that. If any praises at all should come tomorrow, let the people decide, don't sing it to yourself. When we say the people's fundamental rights have been violated and their sovereignty confiscated, we are not referring to the few on the list of complainants or the few card bearing members on SCNC or SCAPO register. I pray no one should reason like Chief Ayamba who has it on record that those working with LRC or in the Diaspora should return home and join the struggle if not they shall lose their rights of BSC citizenship. We seem not to have gotten him rid of that mindset.  Third point:  When in reaction to Martin's explanation, see below, you stated "Mr Nfor did not need to say that 226 was SCNC. The fact that he gave the interview as a Baron of the SCNC, leaves no one in doubt as to who may have put in the 226, which remains false." When I read this I was forced to re-read Martin Yembe's article for I did not understand what '226' is and I knew I never said any such thing. I wasted valuable time which is a scarce commodity. Fortunately from his article I saw but 266/2003 which we all know NOT 226. You are angry that I gave the interview "as a Baron of the SCNC"? (Whatever meaning you attach to "Baron)." You wanted me to give the interview as a Baron of the RDPC? You need to hear the researcher's opening statement as Martin paraphrased. The SCNC is BSC struggle for freedom, justice and independence and the researcher wanted to know the genesis of the problem, if really there is a problem and how we Southern Cameroonians are pursuing it. He frankly confessed that few French men know about the problem and political conflict. I quote from Yembe's article the reference to this issue that has obsessed you Dr Gumne "Another option the SCNC and Southern Cameroonians have adopted all this while is that of litigation. The Southern Cameroons people have taken their case to the African Commission on Human and Peoples' Rights (ACHPR) in 2003 in Communication 266/2003." My mission in this interview, briefly put, was to vividly paint the inherent distinction between BSC and LRC, the victim and the aggressor, the victim of a failed decolonisation process and the annexationist and coloniser and the compelling role of the international system in conformity with the UN Charter, AU Charter and international law for annexation is a crime against humanity and threat to world peace and decolonisation a UN RESPONSIBILITY. My aim as a messenger and steward of the people, who faithful to his defined role does not run away from his duty and responsibility was to expose LRC foreign aggression, territorial expansionism, imposition of foreign domination and alien rule and that annexation and colonial occupation is a direct declaration of war on the victim nation and people in which the people have no option but to fight back to reclaim their freedom and dignity. I likened this inherent right of the Southern Cameroonian people to fight back with that of France under De Gaulle in 1940s which with international support France was restored to national sovereignty: BSC under international law claims that same right of nations and peoples. I spoke for and on behalf of BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROONS and its people, Southern Cameroonians, against LRC, its government and agents, who ever they may be. Score me on this and condemn or praise me. Yes your reaction on the Boko Haram issue is well placed and timely. You, like others, reacted as a Southern Cameroonian whose image and integrity is called to question in this baseless LRC imperial accusation. You fully agree with me here for you do not have to be a card carrying member of the SCNC. SCNC as I have said above is BSC, the BSC voice for freedom, identity card within the international arena, once attacked, we all are. The blame syndrome would have been well founded if you started by blaming me for not singing praises to ELAD, ANYANGWE, MUNZO and itoe. LET US WORK TOGETHER FOR OUR POLITICAL REDEMPTION AND COLLECTIVE GOOD. You have the floor. Sir, thank you. Nfor N. Nfor Mr. Yembe, Thanks for your views. Mr Nfor did not need to say that 226 was SCNC. The fact that he gave the interview as a Baron of the SCNC, leaves no one in doubt as to who may have put in the 226, which remains false. The Boko Haram issue was mentioned somewhere linking the SCNC. When it reached me, I did not wait for the SCNC to counter it as false.I acted immediately and called the attention of Nfor and other SCNC factions to act together to dispel the unfounded rumour by LRC Lobbyists.I brought it in this time to show how we all should be our brother's keepers. Thank God, the Boko Haram link to SCNC has backfired on Cameroon-not the SCNC.You mention the post by Chief Taku. I handled the issue together with him. I repeat, Mr Nfor's interview was good; it would have been better, should he have treated it from a Southern Cameroons perspective, by associating people with up-to-date information.This is not the time for individual action.Please, both Nfor and you, should, from now on, consult with Mr Ndangam on a regular basis, in order to inform Southern Cameroonians and the international community with up-to-date information. We have done so much that you all need to know and spread for Southern Cameroonians and others, to know.Keep secrets off.The Executive Vice Chairman of SCAPO is requested to to respond favourably to this cooperation for the sake of our country. Best wishes ngwang gumne