With the benefit of hindsight, this posting was dead prophetic!
Alas! Southern Cameroon pressure group leaders can't take heed and avoid unnecessary squabbling.
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On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
> This was posted on June 22; 2012
> Compatriots,
> It is my singular pleasure to announce to us all that certain decisive
> pathways, the results of years of effort, white pain and hot sweat,
> dedication and commitment, have borne fruit - singular FRUIT.
> The days ahead will, per force, divulge those pathways.
> Without stiffing our democratic right to debate and agree or disagree,
> and without infringing on our right to belong to this or that group, I
> do implore us all to wait until we have all the facts about a pathway
> before we type and send.
> Hence I do propose to us all a PACT of NON-AGGRESSION.
> This is because it is obvious to us all that we sometimes disagree on
> strategies but not on the essential goal which goal is the full
> expression of our natural and legal right to self-determination as a
> PEOPLE - an independent state one way or another.
> God bless the Southern Cameroons
> Ntemfac Aloysius Nkong Nchwete Ofege - Prophet.
> Chairman - Commission of Ways and Means
> Southern Cameroons Peoples Organization.
>
> On 6/26/12, kaavi melchizedek <kaavimelchizedek@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is it a fight to now place SCAPO in the lime light?
>>
>> or what is this fighting now all about. I thought there
>>
>> was some peace now between SCAPO and the SCNC.
>> Pa Ngumne for the good of the struggle knowing how
>>
>> sensitive it is, you should have addressed your letter direct
>>
>> to Dr Nfor without letting us knowing. You people are just
>>
>> discouraging us with all these your better than thou reactions.
>> If there is something concerning the Banjul case that SCAPO
>>
>> was keeping and waiting for SCNC to come and ask for. Or
>>
>> waiting for the people of Southern Cameroons to come and ask for
>>
>> before they know then SCAPO should better eat it. SCAPO do not
>>
>> have an office but SCNC does ask Pa Ndangam when last he visited
>>
>> the SCNC office. Next time please write these fights behind the screen.
>>
>>
>> THE TRUTH ONLY MEAN SOMETHING IF THE PERSON
>> LISTENING TO IT UNDERSTANDS IT.
>> . mk
>>
>> Chairman SCNC Belgium
>> Melchizedek Kaavi
>> Melim City(LGA)
>> Northern Zone Bui
>> County Southern Cameroon
>> http://www.scncforsoutherncameroons.net
>> Web: http://www.scylforfreedom.org
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: thomas sama achoa <samatom2007@yahoo.fr>
>> To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY
>>
>>
>> Deze my Pa them di kill my spirit some times me a di wander wosai we di go.
>> I hope Pa Ndangam is not a child like also is Pa Nfor but the thing that
>> disturbes me most is when
>> we are giving the impression that one of this persons is a child that needs
>> to be pampered by the other.
>> Pa Ngumne how much interest have Pa Ndangam shown on working with Nfor that
>> makes you to think
>> that Nfor does not want to work with him?
>> Pa Ngumne i have been a witness to a lot of things in this movement and does
>> not want to be highlighting
>>
>> those things for they keep us apart reather than bringing us together.
>> Like i am an advocate of unity if the people you want them to work together
>> does not want to do so as mature
>> people i cannot force them.
>> The one billion question we should ask ourselves today is, why is it that we
>> cannot indevour to work together and
>> blaming a/b for working together is when i Sama Thomas makeup my mind that i
>> want to work with my brother and
>> not the other way round. I will like to know if Pa Ndangam have ever went to
>> Nfor and ask him that he will like that
>> they should be working hand in gloves and Nfor turned dawn that opportunity.
>> If that is not the case i don't see how Nfor should be accused by anyone for
>> not wa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ngwang Gumne <mustakebi@yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: NFOR NFOR <nnyamngaisc@gmail.com>; AFN Gwannua <afngwannua@gmail.com>;
>> Martin Yembe <mfyembe@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Nfor,
>>
>> Thanks for your long mail in response to my mail to you.
>> Mine was a limited circulation. Yours-as usual-became a world circulation.
>>
>> It is a pity that you did not read that I praised Mr Yembe for the coverage;
>> you did not also read that I praised you for the interview.I praised you
>> and Mr. Yembe.You lost sight of this when responding.
>>
>> We have information on the legal and diplomatic approaches that are not yet
>> in the public domai
>> I had requested many times before that you and Mr. Ndangam shouls work
>> closely together. You have never shown interest in this approach. If you two
>> were doing things together, you would have all this up-to-date information
>> that would have enriched your interview.
>>
>> I took up the Banjul case irrespective of your stiff opposition, in the name
>> of The Southern Cameroons and in consideration of the fact that you are not
>> the SCNC. At no time have I ever regarded it as belonging to any one
>> person.If you remember, that since the SDF days, I had never been interested
>> in taking up politics and that my fight is to contribute to bringing about
>> justice for the SC, you will have no reason to think that I want some sort
>> of recognition.You have shown interest and participated in parliamentary
>> elections as a candidate though the voters did not get you in.This reminds
>> me of a friend who told me they call a certain friend, "depute manque". You
>> would have been in parliament.
>>
>> You said Mr Ndangam was in the US; this is not true because he is in Bamenda
>> and he was there when you gave the interview. You did not know because you
>> have no interest in working together with SCAPO.
>>
>> To end, I remind you that I wrote to you with limited circulation. You wrote
>> back copying the world.
>> I praised you and Mr Yembe for the interview. I pointed out the weakness and
>> showed how it would have been better.Banjul is a Southern Cameroon issue
>> even hough it was one man's initiative. Every Southern Cameroonian is free
>> to quote it, including its opponents.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> ngwang gumne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: NFOR NFOR <nnyamngaisc@gmail.com>
>> To: Ngwang Gumne <mustakebi@yahoo.co.uk>
>> Cc: ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>; "ambasbay@yahoogroups.com"
>> <ambasbay@yahoogroups.com>; Martin Yembe <mfyembe@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 6:52
>> Subject: IN RESPONSE TO CLARIFY
>>
>> Dr Gumne,
>> Sir,
>> Your second posting on the interview I granted to a French researcher
>> whether questioning, attacking or blaming whoever has necessitated my
>> reaction. In the first you
>> blamed me for not
>> bringing in
>> your
>> Executive Vice for he is better informed than any of us on the Banjul
>> issue. I have never contested such claims and we were not writing Mr
>> Biya's concour here.
>> I note that your worry stems from the fact that by talking about it
>> alone, by implication I failed to give credit where it is due. Was
>> that the purpose of the interview? And should that have been my
>> preoccupation? I am not oblivious of the blames, attacks and
>> accusations I have received from you and SCAPO authorities which mean
>> nothing to me. You will notice that I have not been replying or
>> reacting for obvious reasons.
>> Firstly we do not have the luxury you people have over there to be
>> preoccupied with sterile issues which do not advance the struggle for
>> freedom.
>> Secondly I do not want to get involved in this blame, blame syndrome
>> and personality cultism. It is exclusive. It does not build
>> confidence. It does not bring people
>> together. It is injurious to
>> human dignity and good conscience.
>> One thing which Mr. Martin Yembe did not say or saw no need to, is
>> that he did not tell his readers that he did not attend the interview,
>> he listened to it on a DVD and made his notes and published his
>> article. I was surprised at what he was able to do and I praised him.
>> And we should all do that for by his ability some of you who may never
>> be opportune to listen to the DVD have had a word for or against which
>> to me is human.
>> Second point of correction: You blame me for not inviting Mr Ndangam,
>> SCAPO Executive Vice Chairman. You expected me to have told the
>> French researcher to wait for me while I rushed to the USA or wherever
>> and to bring Mr Ndangam? Did he hand to me a list of questions so
>> that I should have selected those to be answered by your Executive
>> Vice? This war against the occupier is a collective issue and people
>> must be
>> educated on their rights to fight the enemy.
>> I have said it before and here do reiterate – Banjul is not a personal
>> property of any individual or group, it belongs to all British
>> Southern Cameroonians just the same as the victory/independence when
>> it comes will be. We ahead, suffering as we are, are only messengers
>> and stewards. Below the list of complainants it is put "for and on
>> behalf of the Southern Cameroonian people." By this we have made
>> history and we should thank God for that. If any praises at all should
>> come tomorrow, let the people decide, don't sing it to yourself.
>> When we say the people's fundamental rights have been violated and
>> their sovereignty confiscated, we are not referring to the few on the
>> list of complainants or the few card bearing members on SCNC or SCAPO
>> register. I pray no one should reason like Chief Ayamba who has it on
>> record that those working with LRC or
>> in the Diaspora should return
>> home and join the struggle if not they shall lose their rights of BSC
>> citizenship. We seem not to have gotten him rid of that mindset.
>> Third point: When in reaction to Martin's explanation, see below,
>> you stated "Mr Nfor did not need to say that 226 was SCNC. The fact
>> that he gave the interview as a Baron of the SCNC, leaves no one in
>> doubt as to who may have put in the 226, which remains false."
>>
>> When I read this I was forced to re-read Martin Yembe's article for I
>> did not understand what '226' is and I knew I never said any such
>> thing. I wasted valuable time which is a scarce commodity.
>>
>> Fortunately from his article I saw but 266/2003 which we all know NOT
>> 226. You are angry that I gave the interview "as a Baron of the SCNC"?
>> (Whatever meaning you attach to "Baron)." You wanted me to give the
>> interview as a Baron of the RDPC? You need to hear the
>> researcher's
>> opening statement as Martin paraphrased. The SCNC is BSC struggle for
>> freedom, justice and independence and the researcher wanted to know
>> the genesis of the problem, if really there is a problem and how we
>> Southern Cameroonians are pursuing it. He frankly confessed that few
>> French men know about the problem and political conflict.
>>
>> I quote from Yembe's article the reference to this issue that has
>> obsessed you Dr Gumne "Another option the SCNC and Southern
>> Cameroonians have adopted all this while is that of litigation. The
>> Southern Cameroons people have taken their case to the African
>> Commission on Human and Peoples' Rights (ACHPR) in 2003 in
>> Communication 266/2003."
>>
>> My mission in this interview, briefly put, was to vividly paint the
>> inherent distinction between BSC and LRC, the victim and the
>> aggressor, the victim of a failed decolonisation process and the
>> annexationist and
>> coloniser and the compelling role of the
>> international system in conformity with the UN Charter, AU Charter and
>> international law for annexation is a crime against humanity and
>> threat to world peace and decolonisation a UN RESPONSIBILITY. My aim
>> as a messenger and steward of the people, who faithful to his defined
>> role does not run away from his duty and responsibility was to expose
>> LRC foreign aggression, territorial expansionism, imposition of
>> foreign domination and alien rule and that annexation and colonial
>> occupation is a direct declaration of war on the victim nation and
>> people in which the people have no option but to fight back to reclaim
>> their freedom and dignity. I likened this inherent right of the
>> Southern Cameroonian people to fight back with that of France under De
>> Gaulle in 1940s which with international support France was restored
>> to national sovereignty: BSC under international law claims that
>> same
>> right of nations and peoples. I spoke for and on behalf of BRITISH
>> SOUTHERN CAMEROONS and its people, Southern Cameroonians, against LRC,
>> its government and agents, who ever they may be. Score me on this and
>> condemn or praise me.
>>
>> Yes your reaction on the Boko Haram issue is well placed and timely.
>> You, like others, reacted as a Southern Cameroonian whose image and
>> integrity is called to question in this baseless LRC imperial
>> accusation. You fully agree with me here for you do not have to be a
>> card carrying member of the SCNC. SCNC as I have said above is BSC,
>> the BSC voice for freedom, identity card within the international
>> arena, once attacked, we all are.
>>
>> The blame syndrome would have been well founded if you started by
>> blaming me for not singing praises to ELAD, ANYANGWE, MUNZO and itoe.
>>
>> LET US WORK TOGETHER FOR OUR POLITICAL REDEMPTION AND COLLECTIVE GOOD.
>>
>> You have the floor. Sir,
>> thank you.
>> Nfor N. Nfor
>>
>>
>> Mr. Yembe,
>>
>> Thanks for your views.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr Nfor did not need to say that 226 was SCNC. The fact that he gave
>> the interview as a Baron of the SCNC, leaves no one in doubt as to who
>> may have put in the 226, which remains false.
>>
>> The Boko Haram issue was mentioned somewhere linking the SCNC. When it
>> reached me, I did not wait for the SCNC to counter it as false.I acted
>> immediately and called the attention of Nfor and other SCNC factions
>> to act together to dispel the unfounded rumour by LRC Lobbyists.I
>> brought it in this time to show how we all should be our brother's
>> keepers.
>>
>> Thank God, the Boko Haram link to SCNC has backfired on Cameroon-not
>> the SCNC.You mention the post by Chief Taku. I handled the issue
>> together with him.
>>
>> I repeat, Mr Nfor's interview was good; it would have been better,
>> should he have treated it from a Southern Cameroons
>> perspective, by
>> associating people with up-to-date information.This is not the time
>> for individual action.Please, both Nfor and you, should, from now on,
>> consult with Mr Ndangam on a regular basis, in order to inform
>> Southern Cameroonians and the international community with up-to-date
>> information. We have done so much that you all need to know and spread
>> for Southern Cameroonians and others, to know.Keep secrets off.The
>> Executive Vice Chairman of SCAPO is requested to to respond favourably
>> to this cooperation for the sake of our country.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> ngwang gumne
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> a thing makes it happen.
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