Its's very true Mr Prabhakar,
The real purpose of education is to make a student competent enough to earn his bread and support his family.That's were people like you Mr Bholanath dutta are required.
From: Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com>
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Cc: bnath.dutta@gmail.com; goel.virendra@gmail.com; french.coach@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [MTC Global] Req for suggetion regarding Training & Placement Officer.
Dear All,
The ultimate objective of education is that the student is competent enough to earn his/her bread, support his family, society and nation at large.
Normally, in case of students from professional courses like engineering, management, pharmacy, etc., we expect that they are placed in corporate sector. This is true and to achieve this we lay stress on/or advocate TPO, etc. But the several sectores like agriculture, printing and media, defence, DRDO, NCLs, civil services, catering, tourism, etc., are hardly in our sight. It is difficult to develop finished product for all these sectors, hence we concentrate on corporate sector but with a limited success. It is desirable we develop the core competency among students and with a little training to them they are placed on the job. IAS, IPS, IOF, officers, etc., are required to undergo for training for 2 years before they are appointed as full-fledged officers. Such a lateral approach will prove rewarding to nation. But till then, let us focus on our present approach.
Views based on my experience as TPO Officer in several engineering colleges and close interaction with small to big houses are presented in the attachment. May be of interest to readers.
Regards.
Yours,
_____________________________________________---
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:08:00 +0530 wrote
>My Further views :
1. It may not be possible to separate placement from the school process in professional/vocational courses.
2. School must take all initiatives to ensure that the finished products are sold in the market.
3. School processes need to be fine tuned based on the industry feedback wherever necessary and suitable.
4. Creating separate centre may create problem in coordination and understanding.
5. Placement department is having more interface with corporate hence must play the pivotal role in building the competency of students.
6. Ultimately students need to perform but they must be made fit and which largely depends on faculty teaching subjects and placement department to give finishing touch.
7. The title 'TPO' may not fit well as the placement head needs to interact with senior executives from corporate. The title ' Placement Director' can redefine the role of placement head.
8. Many B-schools have the title of 'GM-Placement' etc but many colleges may not like to corporatize/commercialize (perception) the placement department and avoid such names.
These are some of my views for further deliberations,
Cordially,
Bholanath
Sent from my Nokia phone
-----Original Message-----
From: Virendra Goel
Sent: 31/05/2012 8:58:20 pm
Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Req for suggetion regarding Training & Placement Officer.
My take on the matter:
1. Placement should not be the responsibility of the school hence it
should be placement facilitation center.
2. There should be a competency building department that should take
care of skill building and additional knowledge that the curriculum does not
provide but found to be essential for competency. There should be a process
of competency mapping every quarter and results passed on the individual
concerned.
3. The facilitation center and the competency building department
should be two different units.
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Prof. Bholanath Dutta
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:40 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Req for suggetion regarding Training & Placement
Officer.
Please find few submissions from my side in the ongoing interesting
discussion:
1. Training, Placement, Counseling, Career Guidance, Entrepreneurism --
Functional Areas of any Placement Department.
2. Require change in the mindset w/r/t Placement Department-- From Support
Function to Strategic Role.
3. Placement Department must work along with other departments---Mostly it
works in isolation. And all departments blame placement department ,if
placement is not good which is not correct but a common practice.
4. Many management feel it is a cost center to some extent.
5. Placement and training can not be separated and must go hand-in-hand.
6. Always there is a shortage of Manpower in Placement Department given the
reason that placement only happens in a certain period of the year which is
not correct as this is a round the year activity.
7. Wonder how many colleges have a separate budget for placement and in
reality disbursed to the department.
8. Placement Officer must take at least one subject to understand the
students and their strengths and areas for development apart from regular
interaction.
Few submissions from my side for further deliberations.
Cordially,
Bholanath
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Stephen Narayanan
wrote:
Well...indeed it is a dual responsibility that most Management B-Schools
want to impose on a Placement person but not without the logic as we are in
touch with Corporates and understand the qualities which HR's look for in
candidates...it is easier for the Placement person to mentor and guide the
candidates accordingly.
My own observation through my experience says: During a Placement process (
external) if I am there with the group of students sitting for selection,
the % of selection goes up.Each candidate who comes out shares how the
process went and any area where he got stuck, I guide him and others who
throng around as to what would be the correct response to the querry....and
to be alert for any googlies which may catch them unawares. In our Institute
One Lecture every week is devoted for CRC ( Corporate Resource Cell - of
which we are the Placement Group )....and we share with the students the
current changing trends, the new emerging sectors offering better
opportunities, besides putting them through the mock GD, P.I. sessions to
prepare them for Corporate processes.
In my view...Training & Placement...Go Hand in Hand.
Stephen Narayanan
General Manager - Corporate Resource Center
New Delhi Institute of Management.
60, Tughlakabad Institutional Area,
New Delhi.
Tel.:- (011) 29956566-69/40111000: Extn.217.
Mob.:-9868386192
--
EDUCATE, EMPOWER, ELEVATE
Happy Knowledge Sharing!
Kindest Regards.......
Bholanath Dutta
Founder, President & Convener: MTC Global
Website:www.mtcglobal.org
/bnath.dutta@gmail.com/president@mtcglobal.org
Cell: +91 96323 18178
Dr P H Waghodekar
Adviser HR IBS Marathwada Institutute of Technology Aurangabad
(o) 02402375113 (M)7276661925
e Mail waghodekar@rediffmail.com
The ultimate objective of education is that the student is competent enough to earn his/her bread, support his family, society and nation at large.
Normally, in case of students from professional courses like engineering, management, pharmacy, etc., we expect that they are placed in corporate sector. This is true and to achieve this we lay stress on/or advocate TPO, etc. But the several sectores like agriculture, printing and media, defence, DRDO, NCLs, civil services, catering, tourism, etc., are hardly in our sight. It is difficult to develop finished product for all these sectors, hence we concentrate on corporate sector but with a limited success. It is desirable we develop the core competency among students and with a little training to them they are placed on the job. IAS, IPS, IOF, officers, etc., are required to undergo for training for 2 years before they are appointed as full-fledged officers. Such a lateral approach will prove rewarding to nation. But till then, let us focus on our present approach.
Views based on my experience as TPO Officer in several engineering colleges and close interaction with small to big houses are presented in the attachment. May be of interest to readers.
Regards.
Yours,
_____________________________________________---
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:08:00 +0530 wrote
>My Further views :
1. It may not be possible to separate placement from the school process in professional/vocational courses.
2. School must take all initiatives to ensure that the finished products are sold in the market.
3. School processes need to be fine tuned based on the industry feedback wherever necessary and suitable.
4. Creating separate centre may create problem in coordination and understanding.
5. Placement department is having more interface with corporate hence must play the pivotal role in building the competency of students.
6. Ultimately students need to perform but they must be made fit and which largely depends on faculty teaching subjects and placement department to give finishing touch.
7. The title 'TPO' may not fit well as the placement head needs to interact with senior executives from corporate. The title ' Placement Director' can redefine the role of placement head.
8. Many B-schools have the title of 'GM-Placement' etc but many colleges may not like to corporatize/commercialize (perception) the placement department and avoid such names.
These are some of my views for further deliberations,
Cordially,
Bholanath
Sent from my Nokia phone
-----Original Message-----
From: Virendra Goel
Sent: 31/05/2012 8:58:20 pm
Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Req for suggetion regarding Training & Placement Officer.
My take on the matter:
1. Placement should not be the responsibility of the school hence it
should be placement facilitation center.
2. There should be a competency building department that should take
care of skill building and additional knowledge that the curriculum does not
provide but found to be essential for competency. There should be a process
of competency mapping every quarter and results passed on the individual
concerned.
3. The facilitation center and the competency building department
should be two different units.
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Prof. Bholanath Dutta
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:40 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Req for suggetion regarding Training & Placement
Officer.
Please find few submissions from my side in the ongoing interesting
discussion:
1. Training, Placement, Counseling, Career Guidance, Entrepreneurism --
Functional Areas of any Placement Department.
2. Require change in the mindset w/r/t Placement Department-- From Support
Function to Strategic Role.
3. Placement Department must work along with other departments---Mostly it
works in isolation. And all departments blame placement department ,if
placement is not good which is not correct but a common practice.
4. Many management feel it is a cost center to some extent.
5. Placement and training can not be separated and must go hand-in-hand.
6. Always there is a shortage of Manpower in Placement Department given the
reason that placement only happens in a certain period of the year which is
not correct as this is a round the year activity.
7. Wonder how many colleges have a separate budget for placement and in
reality disbursed to the department.
8. Placement Officer must take at least one subject to understand the
students and their strengths and areas for development apart from regular
interaction.
Few submissions from my side for further deliberations.
Cordially,
Bholanath
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Stephen Narayanan
wrote:
Well...indeed it is a dual responsibility that most Management B-Schools
want to impose on a Placement person but not without the logic as we are in
touch with Corporates and understand the qualities which HR's look for in
candidates...it is easier for the Placement person to mentor and guide the
candidates accordingly.
My own observation through my experience says: During a Placement process (
external) if I am there with the group of students sitting for selection,
the % of selection goes up.Each candidate who comes out shares how the
process went and any area where he got stuck, I guide him and others who
throng around as to what would be the correct response to the querry....and
to be alert for any googlies which may catch them unawares. In our Institute
One Lecture every week is devoted for CRC ( Corporate Resource Cell - of
which we are the Placement Group )....and we share with the students the
current changing trends, the new emerging sectors offering better
opportunities, besides putting them through the mock GD, P.I. sessions to
prepare them for Corporate processes.
In my view...Training & Placement...Go Hand in Hand.
Stephen Narayanan
General Manager - Corporate Resource Center
New Delhi Institute of Management.
60, Tughlakabad Institutional Area,
New Delhi.
Tel.:- (011) 29956566-69/40111000: Extn.217.
Mob.:-9868386192
--
EDUCATE, EMPOWER, ELEVATE
Happy Knowledge Sharing!
Kindest Regards.......
Bholanath Dutta
Founder, President & Convener: MTC Global
Website:www.mtcglobal.org
/bnath.dutta@gmail.com/president@mtcglobal.org
Cell: +91 96323 18178
Dr P H Waghodekar
Adviser HR IBS Marathwada Institutute of Technology Aurangabad
(o) 02402375113 (M)7276661925
e Mail waghodekar@rediffmail.com
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