From: Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>
To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>; "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>; "sdf-forum@yahoogroupes.fr" <sdf-forum@yahoogroupes.fr>; solomon atanga <soloamabo@yahoo.co.uk>; Eden Media <edenmedia@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Full Text of the Pre-Plebiscite Resolution on Reunification./ Thank You for the ressource
You should also get the copies of the pre-agreements that both Foncha
and Endeley signed with the Federal Republic of Nigeria while you are
at it.
Monday morning Quarterback. ...
On 7/3/12, Celestin Bedzigui <
celestin.bedzigui@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the ressource.
>
>
> I have been looking for this document for a while, since I had received a
> copy of the draft Constitution ( french version) from Late Minister Onana
> Awana, my dad's friend whith whom he worked, who was Ahidjo's Minister of
> Finances and closest friends at this time , and participated to the
> Conference at Foumban to handle the monetary and financial aspects of the
> Reunification.
>
> The document I have in my archives back home have the signatures of those
> who attend the Conference as Witnesses of both side en plus of
> Ahidjo+Foncha signatures. When me giving the copy of the draft of
> Constitution, late Onana Awana told me that there was a pre- agrement who
> had bee signed before, but he did not have it.
>
> I finally have it today. Thank You .
>
> Regards.
>
> C. B.
>
>
>
> From: Nfor N Susungi <
nsusungi@yahoo.com>
> To:
ambasbay@googlegroups.com;
cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> Cc:
cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com;
camnetwork@yahoogroups.com;
>
sdf-forum@yahoogroupes.fr; solomon atanga <
soloamabo@yahoo.co.uk>; Eden
> Media <
edenmedia@yahoo.co.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:28 AM
> Subject: [cameroon_politics] Full Text of the Pre-Plebiscite Resolution on
> Reunification.
>
>
> Full Text of the Pre-Plebiscite Resolution on Reunification.
>
> In one of the secret documents which I obtained from the British Public
> Record Office in Kew Gardens in London , which became open to the public in
> 1993 after the mandatory 30-year rule on highly classified secret documents,
> I became aware of the types of arrangements that took place between Foncha
> and Ahidjo prior to reunification. The key document which underlies
> Reunification in Cameroons is a "Resolution" which President Ahidjo and
> Prime Minister John Ngu Foncha signed on 14th October 1960 on
> "Reunification" in the event that Southern and Northern Cameroons vote in
> favor of joining the Cameroun Republic.
>
> Please read this important document carefully.
> Reunification of Southern Cameroons with Republic of Cameroun
> Resolution
> Whereasby resolution of 14the session of the United Nations a plebiscite
> will be held in February 1961 to decide whether the Northern and Southern
> Cameroons will gain independence by joining the Federation of Nigeria or the
> Cameroun Republic;
> And Whereasin the event of the vote favoring the joining of the Cameroun
> Republic, the implementation of reunification on a Federal basis adaptable
> to conditions peculiar to all sections of Cameroon cannot be automatic but
> gradual;
> And Whereasthe delegations of the Government of Cameroun Republic and the
> government party in Southern Cameroons reaffirm their peoples' strong desire
> to reunite as a nation, and the same leaders having held two previous
> discussion to initiate the constitutional nature of the Union;
> Now, at their third meeting holding in Yaoundé between the 10th and 14th
> October 1960 resolved that the outline draft proposal for the constitution
> in the event of unification be adopted.
> Outline Proposal for a Draft Constitution for a federal United Kamerun
> Republic .
> At the third meeting of the Representatives of the government of the
> Republic of Cameroun and the Governing Party in the Southern Cameroons to
> continue their discussions on a draft constitution for the unification of
> the Republic of Cameroon and the Northern and Southern British Cameroons the
> following declaration s were made by Premier Foncha, President Ahidjo, Head
> of the Cameroun Republic, and Mr. Charles Assale, the Prime Minister of
> Cameroun Republic:
> 1 (a) That they intend to do everything possible (in their power) to
> implement the country-wide desire for unification to which they have
> dedicated themselves;
> 1 (b) Reaffirmed that the territories shall be unified as a federal,
> sovereign state outside the British Commonwealth and the French Community;
> And agreed on the following draft constitution:
> 2. The Federation shall consist of the Republic of Cameroun and the
> Southern Cameroons . The two parties hope that Northern British Cameroons
> will join the federation whether as a separate state or as a unit with
> Southern Cameroons ;
> 3. The main features of the constitution of the Federation of Kamerun
> States:
> a. The Federation of Kamerun states shall be democratic and freedom of
> worship, of speech of press and movement shall be guaranteed in so far as
> these rights are exercised within the law of the Federation.
> b. The Federation shall have a common motto, national anthem, and
> national flag;
> c. All indigenous people in all the states shall have Cameroonian
> citizenship;
> 4. Minimum Federal Subjects:
> a. Citizenship
> b. Civil Rights
> c. National Defense
> d. Foreign Affairs
> e. Higher Education
> f. Immigration and Emigration
> g. Federal Budget
> h. Posts and Telegraphs
> The remaining subjects which are likely to fall within the power of the
> Federal Government will for the time being be legislated upon by the states;
>
> 5. The Legislature of the Federation: There shall be two legislative
> Houses for the Federation: The National Assembly and the Senate
> The Federal Authority: The Supreme Authority of the Federal State shall be
> composed of – the Federal Executive with the President who is also Head of
> the Federation, and the National Assembly;
> Constitutional Safe-guards: Certain Federal Acts shall be enacted in such
> away that the majority shall not impose on any state a measure which would
> be contrary to its interests. In case of conflicts between the Federal law
> and the law of one state, the Federal law shall supersede. The states can
> legislate only on matters which do not fall within the Federal list. A
> Federal Tribunal shall arbitrate on conflicts arising between the states;
> Federal Judicial System: A Federal Court of Justice shall coordinate the
> two judicial systems and to create a Federal Supreme Court of Appeal.
> State Organs: The government organs of the States as at present will have to
> continue until the Federal organ is created.
> Signed by:
> 1. For and on behalf of the Government of the Cameroun Republic :
> HE Ahmadou Ahidjo, President
> Mr. Charles Assale, Prime Minister
> 2. For and on behalf of the Government of the Southern Cameroons :
> J.N Foncha, Premier
>
> Observations:
> 1. The source of this document is the Public Record Office in Kew
> Gardens in London, United Kingdom;
> 2. The importance of the above document which was signed in Yaoundé on
> 14th October 1960 is that it explains everything which happened in Foumban
> in July 1961 and later on October 1st 1961.
> 3. It is in this document that the term "reunification" is used for the
> first time.
> 4. There was a "Resolution" and a "Joint Communique" on the Resolution
> and both of them were signed by President Ahidjo, Prime Minister Charles
> Assale and Prime Minister John Ngu Foncha;
> 5. The legal experts of the Southern Cameroons have opined that
> reunification did not take place in legal terms on 1st October 1961 because
> Foumban failed to produce a legally binding union agreement. But the above
> document which was signed one year earlier shows that no additional
> agreement was necessary in Foumban because the Yaoundé Agreement was a
> legally binding agreement on reunification, having been signed by the
> Ahidjo, Assale and Foncha, "For and on Behalf of their Governments".
> 6. I also discovered why the British Government was absent from the
> Foumban conference. The simple reason is that they were not happy with
> Foncha. In this secret document, the British Government expressed their
> anger with Foncha by saying:
> "Considering the paramount importance of the issues involved, coupled with
> the respective strength of the two major parties in the Southern Cameroons
> House of Assembly, we consider it a matter of profound regret that neither
> H.M Government in the United Kingdom nor the government of the Southern
> Cameroons considered it appropriate to invite the Opposition to take part in
> the Yaoundé discussions before the so-called "Constitution for a Federal
> United Kamerun Republic" was signed by Premier J.N Foncha, 'for and on
> behalf of the government of the Southern Cameroons', and President Ahmadou
> Ahidjo and Prime Minister Asale, 'for and on behalf of the Cameroun
> Republic'. Since the territory of the Southern Cameroons is still held in
> trust by H.M government in the United Kingdom, we question very strongly the
> competence of Premier J.N Foncha to conclude and sign an international
> agreement of such magnitude 'for and on behalf of the government
> of the Southern Cameroons"'.
> 7. The British Government was so angry with Foncha that they saw no need
> to come to Foumban given the fact that the real negotiations had already
> been done and sealed in Yaoundé in October 1960. There was no point in
> going to Foumban. In any case no one insisted on the presence of the United
> Kingdom before proceeding with the conference.
> 8. It will be recalled that UN General Assembly Resolution 1608 (XV)
> "Invitesthe Administering Authority, the government of the Southern
> Cameroons and the Republic of Cameroun to initiate urgent discussions with a
> view to finalizing before 1 October 1961, the arrangements by which the
> agreed policies of the parties will be implemented". My own interpretation
> of what happened in Foumban is that Ahidjo, Asale and Foncha felt that they
> were meeting merely to review and agree on the final draft federal
> constitution which would be promulgated on 1st October 1961 because all the
> necessary negotiations on agreed policies had been done prior to the
> plebiscite and the deal had been sealed in Yaoundé in October 1960. There
> was therefore no need for any new union agreement to be signed in Foumban.
> 9. This interpretation has consequences for reunification refusniks who
> have maintained that reunification did not take place on 1st October 1961
> because of the absence of a legally binding union agreement. This position
> needs to be reexamined because who can deny that the Yaoundé Resolution of
> 14th October 1960 is a legally binding union agreement? If we accept that
> the Yaoundé Agreement was a legally binding union agreement, then the
> Southern Cameroons independence movement has lost its legal platform!!! The
> Southern Cameroons independence movement has to find another platform in
> which to justify itself.
> 10. The secretive nature of Prime Minister J.N Foncha
> in handling the reunification question was echoed by N.N Mbile who said in
> his book entitled "Memories of an Eyewitness" that during the conference
> which they held in Bamenda in June 1961 to prepare for the Foumban
> Conference, the Premier had received a draft Federal Constitution from
> Ahidjo but kept it under his armpit and refused to share it with them
> (Opposition) because he described it as "confidential". The comment of the
> British Government official to the Yaoundé Resolution of 14th October 1960,
> confirms that Foncha systematically excluded the Opposition in the Southern
> Cameroons House of Assembly from anything negotiations dealing with
> reunification.
> Based on the above, I feel that I have no choice but to accept reunification
> not just because of the legitimacy that it has acquired after 50 years, but
> also more importantly because the documents which I have studied lead me to
> believe that the reunification process which culminated with the
> promulgation of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Cameroon on 1st
> October 1961 suffered from no legal deficiencies which can lead anyone to
> challenge the international legitimacy or legality of the Federal Republic
> which came to being on 1st October 1961.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/30/12,
sincerelawyer@aol.com <
sincerelawyer@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From:
sincerelawyer@aol.com <
sincerelawyer@aol.com>
>>Subject: [cameroon_politics] Re: Dr. Susunji is Wrong in RE-UNIFICATION:
>> CLARIFICATION ANALYSIS
>>To:
ambasbay@googlegroups.com>>Cc:
cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com,
camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>>Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 2:47 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>When I read Dr. Susunji's piece, I was very impressed with his analysis.
>> However, he did not succeed in challenging the central thesis that "There
>> was never any re-unification. Throughout his analysis he pointed out
>> errors which in many legal minds would have frustrated the contract or
>> agreement between Ahidjo and Foncha. There was never a meeting of the
>> minds between the representatives of the Republic of Cameroon and the
>> representatives of the British Southern Cameroons. He, in many occasions
>> referred to "The French Republic of Cameroon". There has never been any
>> country called "The French Republic of Cameroon". There was French
>> Cameroons, British Southern Cameroons, and British Northern Cameroons.
>> When the French Cameroons had its independence on January 1, 1960, it
>> changed its name to The Republic of Cameroon which by the way after they
>> seceded from the United Republic of Cameroon in 1982 and assumed their
>> original name at independence, The
> Republic of Cameroon, they would not leave Southern Cameroons' territory.
> If Dr. Susunji reads his own piece all over again, he would come to the
> conclusion that there was no re-unification because the meetings between
> Ahidjo and Foncha as analysed by him, were fraught with bad faith and
> errors. The Queen of England and Her Majesty government was the rightful
> authority to grant independence to Southern Cameroons and/or to negotiate
> with the Republic of Cameroon but did not because a few misguided
> individuals who did not understand global politics or any politics at
> all, but were intoxicated with power they thought they had, drew us to a
> situation they themselves could no longer get us out of it. Dr. Foncha and
> Mr. Muna were here in Washington in the 1990s and I was present in those
> meetings were both of them confessed to their mistakes. Fortunately for us,
> Mr. Biya seceded from the illegal union, i.e. the Federal Republic of
> Cameroon, and took his
> nation back to their original status of the Republic of Cameroon though
> he has since been illegally occupying our territory against our will. There
> were so many irregularities, as pointed out by Dr. Susunji's analysis that
> made the agreement null and void ab initio. So, when Hon. Ayah, a respected
> jurist states that there was never any reunification, he is very right. Dr.
> Susunji's lengthy analysis just confirmed that thesis that there was never
> any reunification. The Republic of Cameroon and its French backers know that
> they are occupying a territory as colonizers. They should know that no
> people ever die under colonialism or subjugation. Southern Cameroons will
> not be the first. We, Southern Cameroonians shall be free one day. It took
> the children of Israel 400 years to be free from the Egyptian bondage, it
> took African Americans 400 years to shake off the shackles of slavery, it
> will take Southern Cameroon a shorter time to get itself rid of
> the shackles of The Cameroon Republic's occupation. Indeed there was never
> any reunification between Southern Cameroons and the Republic of Cameroon.
> One might even not succeed to defend that thesis even if the country were
> still called the Federal Republic of Cameroon or the United Republic of
> Cameroon because of the irregularities enumerated by Dr. Susunji. There
> was the Republic of Cameroon from January 1, 1960 which boundaries did not
> go beyond the Mungo River. The Republic of Cameroon did not share borders
> with the Federal Republic of Nigeria on January 1, 1960. Southern Cameroons
> shared borders with those two independent Nations: The Federal Republic of
> Nigeria and The Republic of Cameroon. Since 1982, the Republic of Cameroon
> has been violating the sovereignty of Southern Cameroon which attained her
> independence on October 1, 1961.
>>
>>Dr. Peter N. Njang
>>
>>In a message dated 6/30/2012 12:51:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>
mfyembe@gmail.com writes:
>>I have warned all those transforming the liberation struggle into an
>>>intellectual debate to beware. We can NOT be fooled ANYMORE. Thanks,
>>>Mola Mbua for this piece, but I dare state that no matter how many
>>>thesis are presented on whether or not there was (re)unification is
>>>not our point of interest now as to the fact that a people want to be
>>>free. Those who want to remain in LRC are free to, without dragging us
>>>along. I am speaking from my soul!!!
>>>Shey MF Yembe
>>>
>>>On 6/30/12, thomas sama achoa <
samatom2007@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>> Dr Louis Egbe even the damn thing that Ahidjo called a Federation in
>>>> September 1961 before the intention
>>>> of the Southern Cameroonian people was made in October that is a month
>>>> later
>>>> was wrong.
>>>> See why it was wrong let me bring Nigeria into play. Nigeria as an
>>>> entity
>>>> started as a federated state of three
>>>> states that does not mean that three states were independent entities
>>>> with
>>>> International Boundries as was the case
>>>>
>>>> of the Southern Cameroons, what happened in LRDC in September 1961 is
>>>> just
>>>> the same like the Nigerian people
>>>>
>>>> deed by declaring a federated state from the start, so Ahijo's
>>>> Federation
>>>> does not include the Southern Cameroons into the damn thing
>>>>
>>>> what a heck is Dokta Susungi trying to tell me here? It is because of
>>>> the
>>>> likes of Dokta Susungi that we are where we are
>>>> today for he dokta saw this thing coming but he failed to raised an
>>>> objection today we the young once are suffering and
>>>> scattered all over the world like sheeps without a shepherd and enstead
>>>> of
>>>> him appologising to us he is there running his
>>>> mouth about nonsense is he insane or what is this all about?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: louis egbe <
louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> To:
camnetwork@yahoogroups.com;
ambasbay@yahoogroups.com;
>>>>
SobaAmerica@yahoogroups.com;
SOBA76@yahoogroups.com>>>> Cc:
ambasbay@googlegroups.com>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:17 PM
>>>> Subject: A Reply to Dr. Susunji's RE-UNIFICATION: CLARIFICATION NOTE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saturday, 30 June 2012
>>>> A Reply to Dr. Susunji's RE-UNIFICATION: CLARIFICATION NOTE
>>>>
>>>> I was interested in Hon Chief Ayah's internet-circulated posting, 29
>>>> June
>>>> 2012, which clearly stated that there is no legally binding document
>>>> deposited at the UN, as required by international law enshrined in the
>>>> UN
>>>> Charter that created the so-called Union between the Southern Cameroons
>>>> and
>>>> La Republique du Cameroun. Hon. Ayah was correct. However, it seems Dr.
>>>> Susunji, in his own rebuttal article equally published yesterday, 29
>>>> June
>>>> 2012, in various Cameroon internet fora is stating that Hon Paul Ayah's
>>>> is
>>>> misleading and that there is or was a kind of legally binding
>>>> agreement.
>>>> Dr.Susunji is totally incorrect and his article is grossly misleading as
>>>> the
>>>> following analysis and argument will reveal in this essay.
>>>>
>>>> In the first place, if there was any "Treaty", then that "Treaty" has
>>>> been
>>>> violated since Ahidjo abrogated the Treaty in 1972 by violating the
>>>> Federal
>>>> constitution that brought to birth the de facto Federation in 1961. The
>>>> Federal Constitution which came to force in September 1961 could not
>>>> possibly be classified as a Treaty since the only signatory in the
>>>> document
>>>> was President Ahidjo......
>>>>
>>>> Read the full article in:
http://louis-mbua.blogspot.co.uk/>
--
The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in
a thing makes it happen.
No comments:
Post a Comment