Well, tell him what the ADA say as far as overhead.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
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From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rodgers
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:14 AM
To: gmoor@windstream.net
Cc: 'Jeff Rodgers'; riccoker@gmail.com; 'Ace'
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Profit per hour
Unfortunately Guy I have to talk to this endodontist. He is my best friend. :]
Jeff
On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Guy Moorman <gmoor@windstream.net> wrote:
OK, you are paying more than 30-50 dollars for a crown surely. You don’t do Cerec any longer do you. You don’t have hygiene. Have you lost your mind? You are a smart guy unless you really don’t have hygiene. And by the way, endodontists have the lowest overhead in dentistry so don’t talk to them.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
912-384-7400
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From: Jeff Rodgers [mailto:drrodgers@drrodgers.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:00 AM
To: gmoor@windstream.net
Cc: drrodgers@drrodgers.com; riccoker@gmail.com; 'Ace'
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Profit per hour
The best overhead conversation I have ever had with an endodontist went something like this:
Me: whine whine whine about my overhead
Him: "Jeff imagine if every patient you have comes in and gets a crown done and your lab fee is $30-50, you have very few support staff (meaning no hygiene), and 99% of them are done in 1 visit. That is my overhead."
Me: You suck in a huge way and never discuss overhead with me again.
That was the gist of it.
Jeff
On Feb 21, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Guy Moorman" <gmoor@windstream.net> wrote:
The senior partner wants to get the overhead to 30%. Both the accountant, who works with fourteen other dentists, have told him that is impossible and maintain a quality office. While I’m here I’m ignoring him and getting what we need to keep on top. My assistants tell me he uses handfiles and one rotary on all of his endo…never more than one rotary…F1 ProTaper. That’s a good file but not all we need. ProTaper now has ProTaper Next which is in the M wire and more flexible. I’m buying some of those.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
912-384-7400
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From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rodgers
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:39 AM
To: riccoker@gmail.com
Cc: Ace
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Profit per hour
I have looked at profit per procedure on many occasions which in turn helped me set my hourly goal/daily goal/etc.
My office is nowhere near Guy's 51% overhead though. Maybe I should just say screw it to all that and watch the 49% profit roll in. :] I am jealous Guy.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Rick Coker <riccoker@gmail.com> wrote:
I know that a lot of us have gone to hear Bruce Baird and PDA, where the production per hour is featured, but how many have gone further and monitored the gross profit per hour on a regular basis? That would essentially mean subtracting out the lab fees for all your treatment, I guess. Seems like a simple thing, but the more I talk to Tony Soileau, the more I realize that gross profit per hour is where it is at! And Net profit per hour isn't far behind!
Anybody doing it?
Rick
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