Re: [cameroon_politics] The reason the pope is resigning

The Chief,

While indeed soothsayers do forcast human events aided along by their FATHER the devil..who may actually cause some of these events (ESPECIALLY DISASTERS) to happen....the Lord God does not work that way.

Every thing about the past, the present and the future is in teh BIBLE!

And the Lord God gives these things to them that love him that they might know and so inform teh World.

 1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Again,  1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Yes, we might not have read all the revelations teachings that concerns Daniel and Revelations, for example, but that does not mean these things haven not been written.

For example. I am surprised that some are just reacting about this post today wherereas this is actually a REPOST. 

The same things in here have been posted and reposted when I was explaining certain things about the Bible to Mr Boh Herbert.

I have posted and reposted documents about Eschatology here many times - even before the Pope resigned.

The Jehovah Witnesses have spent decades talking about Revelations 17! The have fat books on the subject!

You may also wish to subscribe to www.worldlastchance.com? to read these things and more.

In fine, that some might only be discovering Revelations 17 this day...especially verses 10 and 11 does not mean these verses are not there... 

Rev 17: 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

And the SPIRIT of God will surely know the things that are in the Bible.

Many do err when they attempt prophesy because they say things that are not the in WORD of God and the WORD of God is the WILL of God.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Chief Charles A.Taku <charto_us@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have gone back to my archives and found some interesting literature in which interpretating the same literature, some apologists of the end times at that time stated that the Anti Christ was Gorbachev at a time of his dramatic appearance on the world scene. What is intriguing is that a review of the plethora of anti-Christ predictions used to interprete the Biblical revelations, for example, the not so- Christain Nostradamus predictions have continued to change the signposts with every important world event.Although Nostradamus and those who believe in him may well be correct in some of their predictions, they cannot reasonable discount that  the Devil being the prince of the world may also make such predictions accurately. Our own Ngambe people who have been maligned by some Church leaders who give credit to Nostradamus and others soothsayers have on occasion made valid predictions. And humans at times make valid predictions on events that are material to their lives and that of people in their communities. Prior to and after 6 April 1984, many soothsayers correctly  predicted the events. That does not in my view make these individuals authorities that can be pointed to, to interpret the Holy Bible. Doing so is a serious challenge to our Christian faith as well as the admonitions and cautions Jesus himself made against such practices in the new testament.  Again, I am impelled to opine that we should put caveats on our predictions and the juxtaposition of human events with the devine for Christ Himself on being queried by the Apostles about when the end will come answered that nations will rise against nations, brothers against brothers and several signficant events will take place. Then, some will point to those signs and conclude that the end is near. The Lord stated that those predictions will all be wrong. For only the father in heaven along knows the time. Now the interpretation of the revelation which was written by John has given rise to much speculation and predictions upon predictions. The analysis that we are reading from different sources, about the significance of the Pope's resignation have, to say the least, not been consistent. None clearly predicted that Pope Benedict  XVI would resign.  Why?  Such a major development concerning the book of revelations would have been predicted suscintly to avoid any doubt that the great moment indeed was here. No so? All I am reading are interpretations in which attempts are made to fit  specific events including the resignation of the Pope to fit into Biblical verses, in particilar, the revelation.  Coming to the conclusions that I have read demands laying down the imperical, forensic and biblical basis on which the conclusions were drawn, while considering and discounting alternative interpretations of the events.  To avoid the erroneous claims that had placed the conclusions that I have read with past events to underscore sacroscant stable biblical interpretation and predictions, all other theories must be considered and discounted. That has so far not been done to my satisfaction and hopefully many people of faith. I am therefore unpersuaded by not by the word of God in revelations but by attempts to fit an unfolding significant event into the situation ordained there in. I state this because those making the claims had upon starting their churches discounted the Roman Catholic Church, the Pope and the Vatican as the legitimate hiers the Petrine stool and upon which Christ built his Church. That disconnect on and of itself may well be is what is setting the world on the road to the Anti Christ and not a single event within the Christian church. Chief Charles A.Taku  --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote: From: Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] The reason the pope is resigning To: "cameroon_politics" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>, "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>, "SDF" <cameroons_sdf_party@yahoogroups.com>, "shesausa" <shesausa@yahoogroups.com>, "cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>, "SCNC-NA (2009)" <scncna@yahoogroups.com>, "naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com" <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 8:48 AM IHi Doc, Interestingly Nostradamus predicted 911 Centuries ago and it came to pass. The actual name under which the next Pope will go under is immaterial. Revelations 17:: says...The eighth will be a devil from the abussos impersonating one of the 7 kings.  From a study of Revelations 13 and 17th we can see clearly the nature of the coming PAPACY. The OUTGOING POPE has made some loud noises about the NECESSARY RETURN OF THE SPIRIT OF VATICAN II. Which of the 7 kings is most known, loved and respected in today's generation? If Satan would want to lead the world into imposing universal laws for exalting his false Sabbath (Sunday), who would be the most effective personality other than John Paul II? Who would be more effective than him who called on Christians to "ensure that civil legislation respects their duty to keep Sunday holy…refraining from work and activities which are incompatible with the sanctification of the Lord's Day." [Apostolic Letter, Des Domini of John Paul II, dated May 31, 1998]? Out of the seven kings, he is the only one that fulfills the prophesied statement: "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." Revelation 13:3. John Paul II is the only king of the seven who experienced a deadly wound in 1981, when he was nearly assassinated. Thereafter, the whole world, as prophesied, wondered after him.  Expect therefore one who is IN THE SPIRIT OF JOHN PAUL II AND WHO IS DETERMINED TO APPLY THE PRESCRIPTIONS OF VATICAN II TO THE LETTER! The transition PAPACY is over now for the real deal. What is this REAL DEAL and what does it mean to those who would serve the Lord their God as DEFINED in the Bible? What does it mean to the world? Welcome a very dangerous WEST-PAPAL AXIS! The Bible prophesies that there will be most dramatic and eventful changes in the world once the Catholic Church regains her beast status, when she comes out of her wilderness experience with the next pope, the eighth king.  Satan will use the papacy (the beast power) and the USA to impose universal religious laws to exalt Sunday, expand the Satanic-Masonic rites of homosexuality and pederasty and bind mankind to global wickedness and extremely savage capitalism – THE MARK OF THE BEAST! "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16, 17. Those who attempt to oppose the West-Papacy Axis will be killed. God's people, who will persist in refusing to honor the beast, accept the false Sabbath and the Masonic Satanism of homosexuality, etc will be persecuted, refused assistance and killed. "The image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." Revelation 13:15. God is clarifying that the eighth is really one of the seven kings. Combining this important key with the fact that the eighth will be an evil angel (devil) from the bottomless pit..(not the ACTUAL PERSON..BUT ONE WITH THE SPIRIT OF) we can begin to comprehend what will soon sway the whole world into unprecedented capitulation.  The RCC will now return to its medieval status of a persecuting beast and all who refuse its dogmas will be persecuted.   On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Tumasang Martin <tumasangm@hotmail.com> wrote:   How does Nostradus Century V1 Quatrain 25 fit in with this and how do the prophesies of Malachy tie in also?. How does Azetec prophesies, Mayan calendar and also writings from the Jewish Kabbala text tie in with all this. One seer correctly predicted that the last pope will be Benedict XV1. He has predicted also that the next pope in a few weeks will be Pius X111. How does all this come together?.   Is Peter Tuckson from Ghana our man?. If so why must this foretold false prophet be a blackman. When Nostrademus said at this time of great tribulations a young red black shall seize the seat of the papacy, did he mean black in heart or in colour(Peter Tuckson is young only 64, a cardinal hence RED, and his colour is Black)?. Are we cursed?. Is it better if our man (the last pope who will ursher in the antichrist) be Peter Bertone and not Peter Tuckson?. Is the destruction of Rome physical destruction or spiritual destruction. The Jewish Kabbala writings foretold of bowls of fire raining down on the city of 7 hills (Rome) so is it physical destruction with missiles?   Please advise   Regards   Tumasang   Regards   Tumasang   To: camnetwork@yahoogroups.com; ambasbay@googlegroups.com; cameroons_sdf_party@yahoogroups.com; shesausa@yahoogroups.com; cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com; Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com; scncna@yahoogroups.com; naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com From: ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:50:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [camnetwork] The reason the pope is resigning   Eschatology End times Prophecy in Fulfillment Prophet Ntemfac N. Ofege Understanding Revelations 17 1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:  2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.  3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.  4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:  5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.  6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.  7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.  8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.  9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.  10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.  11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.  12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.  13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.  14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.  15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.  16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.  17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.  18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (KJV) NOTES: Source. Bible Revelation and World Last Chance. 1.      A woman always symbolizes a church in the Bible, in this case the whore – an impure church. This whore is described as being eminently rich, proud, and more importantly, very corrupt (v. 4, 5). Indeed, it represents Satan's final supreme instrument of deception.  Whereas in Revelation 13 the union of church and state was blended in one symbol, in Revelation 17 God has pictured them separately. Verse 18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. This is the plain truth. All the Masonic sects, the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Knight Templars, etc draw their substance from the Vatican and all the essential world rulers do obeisance to the Vatican either directly or indirectly. Yah Bulon thrives in the Vatican. 2.      A beast has always signified a kingdom or state that persecutes God's people. So we have an impure woman sitting on (i.e. controlling) a scarlet-colored (a bloody) beast (state). This again reinforces the reality of the Catholic system being the only system that is a church and an earthly kingdom at the same time. 3.      "  In the Bible, the sea is a symbol for a greatly populated area: 4.      The wilderness then, in Bible prophecy, is a figure of speech picturing the harsh conditions facing a church in a particular period in her history. 5.      Seven heads – City of Seven Hills or Rome. 6.      Seven Kings are the seven last Popes of this century. Pius XI was the first Roman Catholic pope (from February 6, 1922) who became king as well on February 11, 1929. He along with Mussolini, engineered the Lateran Treaty. 7.      John was taken in vision to the time of the sixth king (Benedick XVI) : "five are fallen, and one is." He comes after the first five have fallen. Again, it is not coincidental that when taken in vision, John was taken to the time of the sixth king. It is a divine hint by which God is guiding us to focus our attention on this particular king, as he will play a very important role in the end-time events. 3.  The seventh king "must continue a short space." (Benedick XVI continued a short space – his reign was short) 8.       What is destined to take place after the prophesied short monarchy of Benedict XVI?  "And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."Revelation 17:11.  Here, we learn the following:  1. The Roman Catholic Church was once a beast (up to 1798), but now is not (as she has been in the wilderness experience since 1798); however, she will regain the beast status (meaning she will come out of her wilderness experience) after the fall of the seventh king, Benedict XVI. 2.  The next one to come after Benedict XVI will be one of the other seven kings. But he will no longer be considered a mere king, but will be a beast as well; for with him the Roman Catholic Church will regain her former power to persecute her enemies.  3. The eighth, when he comes, will be the last; for he "goeth into perdition." 9.      Beyond his anti-GAY, which incurred the wrath of the demoniacs who have taken over the Vatican and are manifesting through Child-molestation worldwide, Pope Benedick XVI ruffled many feathers when he started re-appraising issues like the date of birth of the Lord Jesus.   Pope faults claims on Jesus' birth. By News Express, www.newsexpressngr.com, on 22/11/2012. This did not sit down well with many in the Vatican. Small wonder, at his last MASS, the Pope spoke of conflicts and divisions in the RCC. 10.   Coming Persecution of the elect of God.  Revelation 13 contains a prophecy covering the span of past history as well as looking into the future when this once-great power will again seek to trample the rights of Yahuwah's people: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against [Elohim], to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.  (Revelation 13:1-8, KJV) 11.   The Roman Catholic Church is the "mother" because all other religions, not just Christian denominations, calculate their worship days off of the calendar created by the Catholic Church. "Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles...From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first."  (Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August, 1900.) Bone of contention number one – the Sabbath versus THE SUNDAY! To be continued. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 5:20 AM, SAF <suhade@yahoo.com> wrote:     Why the pope is resigning.  Very disburbing.   http://news.yahoo.com/did-cross-dressing-priest-sex-ring-bring-down-174300640--politics.html    SAF  -- The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a thing makes it happen. __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity: New Members 1 Visit Your Group <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cameroon_politics/ Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ -- The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a thing makes it happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ambasbay" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ambasbay+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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