I feel that the topic is losing its direction. Nobody says that only industry experience people can be good teachers. Nobody says that teachers not having industrial experience are not good teachers. Nobody denies the importance of our teachers in our school or undergraduate days. The simple point of discussion is that when we say that management education has to send out industry ready individuals, it is essential that contemporary issues facing the industry are brought to the class rooms and there can be any number of ways to do so – individuals having passion for teaching can come in the field, teachers can take a sabbatical from the academics and join industry for a year or two, teachers can generate survey, study, training, consultancy assignments with the Industry that will keep them updated with current reality of industry, industry professionals and entrepreneurs can be invited to interact with faculty members and students separately to get their inputs etc. etc. It is that simple.
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashutosh Pandey
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:03 PM
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“THE FACT WITH FALLACY”
I remember my School days that after passing 10th CBSE Board exam my father who is a Civil engineer told me to opt science or Maths for next learning’s, I was more inclined towards commerce field and I chose it for my future, I can still remember the common perception sailing in most of the mind regarding superiority of maths & Science over Commerce or Management field.
We were low viewed students in comparison to future Doctor’s & Engineers…..
Coming to the main topic of Industry Academia gap, I would like to ask a question from all my esteemed MTCians.
· How many of us have studied from Industry experienced person during our School days or for the matter of fact during under graduation?
I believe most of us have build our foundation from those school masters who have taught us all the basic fundamentals along with changing updates and I hope many of the MTCians might have entered in IIT’S , IIM’S & Industry due to these school masters.
· So have we failed because we never build our foundation by gaining knowledge through industry person?
Now coming to the Academic field as a Career, It has been always neglected as a career choice by most of the young, passionate people and if an individual tries to enter in the field then he has to face lots of criticism from lots of people around.
· Why the Gap Exist?
Industry experience can’t be alone treated as the gap filler or a final solution, of course I agree that these people have lot to share in classroom but others without industry experience are not responsible for creating such a gap.
The reasons can be as follow
1. Lack of interest in Teaching as a Career( Most of them treat it as a side option)
2. Lack of interest in research work ( People are interested in gaining free PhD)
3. Mass admission policy for profit earning without scanning the candidate profile.
4. Lack of basic facility for teaching resource development in most of the institutes.
At last I would like to share an experience which I had by working with one of the Esteemed Professor, Dr. JC Varshney who is having more than 100 books to his credit in the field of Commerce, Accounts and Management. I was overwhelmed, felt proud to work with such a personality whose book I used to read during my B.Com days. Such a humble and kind personality who changed many lives through his immense knowledge by dedicating his whole life in teaching field.
We are not Gap creators but we are Learners & Educators.
Thanks & Regards
Ashutosh Pandey
Academician & MTCian.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:23 PM, shanath kumar <shanathk@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear MTCians
I am an Industry Professional turned academician with 17 years of industry experience and 13 years of academic experience. I have taught at prestigious Business Schools such as TAPMI, SDM Institute and Kirloskar Institute. Like mentioned above, I came to the academics due to the Economic Slow down but decided to stay back in Academics due to the rewards it offered me, not only monetarily but also emotionally and professionally. I have been a mentor to hundreds of students who are well placed in reputed companies the world over. I have been a corporate trainer to reputed companies such as Infosys, L&T, Siemens, TExtron, HCL and many others. I feel one of the saddest part in the present day academics is that the teachers are the main reason for the gap in employability and industry connect that exists today. The so called departments of Management in many of the Universities and colleges are nothing better than glorified Arts & Commerce departments. The students I have had are a testimony to my passion and teaching skills of a very high standard. I am now heading Manipal Education in their eLearning initiatives and designing engaging digital content and learning Management Systems. We practice a very high level of Instructional Design and are building great pedagogical models of world class value to higher education. The people who are from Industry bring great value to the teaching profession and are the main bridges in filling the gaps and to give substance to the otherwise empty theoretical rhetorics of pure academically oriented pedagogues.Let us accept this and bring in more industry oriented practices into our pedagogies so that the gap between industry needs and academic capabilities are filled.
Prof. Shanath Kumar
Professor & Head
Dept.of eLearning
Manipal Education
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Neetu G <neetuatsdmimd@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Colleagues
I totally agree with what Mr. Pandey has said. People with industry experience do not necessarily make good teachers. The problem we face today is not that of people who lack industry experience but people with a lack of passion for teaching. For many, it's just a stop gap arrangement or a job switch necessitated by the need for a job which is 'easy'.
A teaching job, is considered to be a very easy one, which does not require much effort. Many people believe that 'Those who can do. Those who can't teach.' This has resulted in people looking down on the entire teaching community. We have all heard the many jokes on Professors and the salaries they earn. Add to this the insensitive employers who do not understand what it takes to be a teacher. As stated by Mr. Pandey, what is needed is a change in mind set and better pay and perks to attract the best to the teaching profession.
Thank you.
Dr. Neetu Ganapathy
Assistant Professor
SDMIMD
From: Ashutosh Pandey <ashutosh.18oct@gmail.com>
To: join_mtc <join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Dress Code
Industry Experience is not at all a bad idea but it does not guarantee the improvised version of Faculty. I have seen many faculties having industry experience but they lack behind teaching skills..
I believe teaching is an art which is fine tuned with end no.of case studies and research and its not restricted only to industry people.
We can find example of many professor who have dedicated their whole life for this noble cause.
The Gap starts when teaching is taken for granted by Employer who is just concentrated towards high profit through mass admission, low recruitment profile by paying less money to teaching resources.
Its also the mistake of most of the employee who joins the teaching career for the sake of job and never do justice with this esteemed career.
I believe its not the industry experience which is required, its all the right attitude which is required by all the stakeholders involved in education process whether its a faculty, employer, students, parent's or an industry person.
Thanks & Regards
Ashutosh Pandey
Academician & MTCian.
On Mar 27, 2013 9:48 AM, "Rajan George - RGMarketing Consultancy" <rgconsultants12@gmail.com> wrote:
When we talk of students should have industry experience, may I ask how many MBA faculty are having Industry experience. Without the faculty having the practical experience on a relevant subject how can a B-School student get the proper input.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM, drjaganmohanreddy <drjaganmohanreddy@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
A very good morning to all of you.
With regard to multi tasking I would like to submit that the concept is not something new to us , as our mother is a great multitasker.
Moreover elderly/ wise people say one can be creative by doing one work at a time. In other words better to concentrate on one job/ task while attending to many.
If I am correct even Prahlad Sir indirectly mentions the same when he talks about the core competence. If everybody can do every thing then the very concept of talent becomes irrelevant.
Look forward to hear more on this.
Regards
DrAJagan Mohan Reddy
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From: Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com>
Date: 26/03/2013 09:53 (GMT+05:30)
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Dress Code
We must not forget that multitasking is going to be the order of the future in the knowledge society that is emerging.
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Winston Jacob
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:00 AM
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The future is moving towards INTELLIGENCE & NOT titles!!Individuals HAVE to be intelligent,Innovative & High Performing individuals to be successful operators.under the circumstances Lifelong Learning is the way to go on On ACTION Learning mode.
Dr.Winston Jacob MBE
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On 25-Mar-2013, at 9:17 AM, "lakshminarayan bindumadhav rao" <raolb@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Dear Prof. Bholanath,
Having operated in Reputed Business Houses like Tata Mittal etc.for nearly two and half decades in large setups i have hardly seen less than 1% of the employees are PhD's. All these industries are successful and Management Institutes are requesting them to take their students.
Let us not forget that nearly 90% OF M.B.A. STUDENTS JOIN industry may be 8% start their own business and less that 1% or nil take up teaching.
Rao.L.B
From: "Prof. Bholanath Dutta" <bnath.dutta@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:05:25
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Subject: [MTC Global] Dress Code
One of my Colleagues tells me ' In Academics, you should have more qualification like 2-3 Ph.D.s, 2-3 MBAs, 2-4 M.A. etc and you can easily get very good Salary. Do not bother about Knowledge much as no one is interested in that.'---- It is true in most of the places. People may disagree but it is the fact.
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