Yea, I just pulled a silver point out of #10 that I placed in 1972 because I needed to place a post. Was that a success? Placed it without a dam too.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
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From: Rick Coker [mailto:riccoker@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:41 AM
To: Jeff Rodgers
Cc: Guy Moorman; Kent Smith; Ace
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] How do you account for patients you refer out to specialists
About the only thing you can say is: "If the success of a root canal is the appearance on the radiograph of all canals looking fully filled, with just a bit of sealant extruded past the individual canals, then it should be good." But of course, we used to think that silver point endos looked good, too! <g>
Rick
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Jeff Rodgers <drrodgers@drrodgers.com> wrote:
I agree that initial results look good. What are the long term results looking like? (real question I do not know the answer to) And are they better than traditional methods?
On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Rick Coker <riccoker@gmail.com> wrote:
If I was doing a lot of endo, I would really look hard at the PIPS protocol and laser. The finished results are looking very good. And it seems to be very conservative in the amount of filing necessary!
Rick
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Rodgers <drrodgers@drrodgers.com> wrote:
Remember Guy…I said average endo. Not your endo, Stropko endo, Barnett, endo, etc. You know the average endodontist is not spending anywhere close to 2 hours per molar.
Jeff
On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Guy Moorman <gmoor@windstream.net> wrote:
They can’t do that many molars. My molars are 2.5 hours for the best ones…five canals.
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The Swamp
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From: Jeff Rodgers [mailto:drrodgers@drrodgers.com]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 4:47 PM
To: gmoor@windstream.net
Cc: kentsmith@21stcenturydental.com; riccoker@gmail.com; 'Ace'
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] How do you account for patients you refer out to specialists
Well…lets do some numbers. In an 8 hour day the average endo can do 6-8 RCTs (I know Guy…not Stropko endo just the average endo). So for one day a week at $1k/tooth (conservative) that is at worst $24k per month or $288k per year. What person in their right mind wouldn't spend 20k on a scope to collect $24k per month in perpetuity? :]
Jeff
On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Guy Moorman <gmoor@windstream.net> wrote:
JIf he bought a scope just to leave at your office, he’s lying a bit. You don’t buy a 20k dollar piece of equipment to sit for four days. He must have one at his office on its last leg. Now I’d have to buy one to leave at your office because I couldn’t carry the scope in. I’d buy a base but not the entire scope. You can only get in about four or five endos in a day if they are molars and unless your fees are 2 grand a molar it isn’t worth leaving one. Jerking the chain of one of my favorite people.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
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From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Smith
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:13 AM
To: riccoker@gmail.com
Cc: Ace
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] How do you account for patients you refer out to specialists
Partner does wisdom teeth and some implants. Our resident periodontist does more implants and perio surgery. The endodontist works every Saturday (he bought a microscsope just to leave at our office), so there really is very little we refer out. Pediatric ortho - yep.
Kent Smith DDS
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On Mar 29, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rick Coker <riccoker@gmail.com> wrote:
I know Marvin doesn't refer, but I also know you don't do anything involving tooth dust or blood, and your partner can't do everything, Kent! Implants, endodontics on troublesome patients, wisdom teeth- you know!
Rick
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Kent Smith <kentsmith@21stcenturydental.com> wrote:
Referrals? What are referrals? I asked Marvin, and he had this puzzled look on his face, so I thought I would ask the group. Hey Dilatush, do you want us putting info on doctors not in our practice in our next mailer too? :-)
Kent Smith DDS
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Rick Coker <riccoker@gmail.com> wrote:I am wanting to develop a form where I can know what happened with each patient I refer out to a specialist- surgeon, implant guy, endodontist, periodontist.
I fear the "black hole" syndrome, where you really don't know what happened with your folks, and sure, I can go look in practiceworks at a particular patient, but what if I don't remember that patient's name?
How do you handle this?
Rick
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