RE: Re: [MTC Global] Dress Code

Fact is that mediocre students who are not able to get admission in top institutions of the country and who can afford the cost of foreign universities also go there and majority of students going out for studies belong to this class. It may also be noted that outgoing students of top institutions of the country draw better offers from foreign companies than the students studying in their own universities.

Regards

Virendra Goel

From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of krishna murari
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: [MTC Global] Dress Code

Dear All

I do not want to hurt anybody but everybody knows that good students either go to USA for higher studies as non of Indian Institutes fall within 100 top schools / college in the world. Many skills are learnt while working in the industry , making strategies, plans and presenting them to higher management and customers. Practical experience changes the view of the faculty and he tries to present the practical aspects of theory. When a lecturer can study theory book and teach the students why a person worked in the industry can not? Main important is that he should have communication and presentation skills.

Please do not underestimate the people working in industry. They can be better teacher and mentors.

Regards,

Krishna Murari

--- On Tue, 2/4/13, Sri Joydip <joydip.chakladar@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sri Joydip <joydip.chakladar@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [MTC Global] Dress Code
To: "join_mtc" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 2 April, 2013, 2:49 PM

To sum it up both degree and knowledge is required both for industry and also for academia.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com> wrote:

There has never been a denial to the fact that there has to be a collaboration between industry and the education world to benefit everybody. I am trying to understand wherefrom the skills stated in the mail were learnt by the individuals? While working in the industry? If yes, is industry ready to employ the engineers lacking these skills or knowledge? Second question is as Dr. Waghodekar has squarely pointed out that having exclusive knowledge or skill of a particular area does not mean that individual can real cover the whole subject effectively as a faculty – is this true or false? There are exceptions everywhere and we are not discussing exceptions that may please be noted.

Regards

Virendra Goel

From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of krishna murari
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 8:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: [MTC Global] Dress Code

Dear ALL

I do not agree with Mr. Prabahkar. Teaching is a passion. The person who worked in Methods engineering and shop can teach production engineering better than a professor who des not have industrial experience. There is big gap between industry and institute. For example, Composite manufacturing technology is almost unknown to even IIT and IISc they know about wet layup while there are many new kind of prepregs and some other advanced developments in this field. Similarly robotics, electronics , avionics, stress analysis etc are teh eras where professors know little. Strategy development, operations management etc need industry experience.

There must be industry and institure relationship to grow in teh field of R&D and teaching.

Regards,

Krishna Murari

--- On Thu, 28/3/13, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:

From: Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [MTC Global] Dress Code
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Cc: ashutosh.18oct@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, 28 March, 2013, 2:49 PM

Dear All,

I fully agree with the views expressed by Professor Ashutosh. My 40+ years teaching/administrative and 5 years industry experience shows me the followings:
1.
Teaching is not at all business of anybody.
2.
Teaching professional need to have pious behavior, knowledge, teaching skills and affection towrads students.
3.
Industry personnel or for that matter anybody from any profession can enter into teaching profession is not a rule but an exception.
4.
Industry experience no doubt is of importance in teaching profession. But such an expertise is normally of a small, narrowed down area like Tool Designer, HR, Software developer, etc. This may cover a few words of the course contents, of syllabus for a course. It is normally found an industry expert has to struggle very hard to cover the remaining words/topics from the syllabus. Many a times, industry expert can find it difficult to digest the subject for want of learning/reading habits. I have come across an industry expert who laughs at me when I told him tools like Lean, JIT, SMED, Kaizen, Zero defects, 5S, etc., can be successfully implemented in institute. He did believe that such tools are applicable to industry only and not to institute!

One thing we must remember that teaching without experience has little meaning and teaching without teaching skills and subject knowledge as a whole on the part of an industry personnel has equally meaningless. Hence the best-in-practice is to train teachers by deputing them to industy during vacation period, at least 3 months in a block of 2 years with a specific goal set for training.

Regards.

Yours,

________________________________________

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:27:36 +0530 wrote
>Industry Experience is not at all a bad idea but it does not guarantee the improvised version of Faculty. I have seen many faculties having industry experience but they lack behind teaching skills..

I believe teaching is an art which is fine tuned with end no.of case studies and research and its not restricted only to industry people.

We can find example of many professor who have dedicated their whole life for this noble cause.

The Gap starts when teaching is taken for granted by Employer who is just concentrated towards high profit through mass admission, low recruitment profile by paying less money to teaching resources.

Its also the mistake of most of the employee who joins the teaching career for the sake of job and never do justice with this esteemed career.

I believe its not the industry experience which is required, its all the right attitude which is required by all the stakeholders involved in education process whether its a faculty, employer, students, parent's or an industry person.

Thanks & Regards

Ashutosh Pandey

Academician & MTCian.
On Mar 27, 2013 9:48 AM, "Rajan George - RGMarketing Consultancy" wrote:
When we talk of students should have industry experience, may I ask how many MBA faculty are having Industry experience. Without the faculty having the practical experience on aÂ relevantÂ subject how can a B-School student get the proper input.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM, drjaganmohanreddy wrote:

Dear FriendsA very good morning to all of you.Â With regard to multi tasking I would like to submit that the concept is not something new to us , as our mother is a great multitasker.

Moreover elderly/ wise people say one can be creative by doing one work at Â a time. In other words better to concentrate on one job/ task while attending to many.Â If Â I am correct even Prahlad Sir indirectly mentions the same when he talks about the core competence. If everybody can do every thing then the very concept of talent becomes irrelevant.Â

Look forward to hear more on this.RegardsDrAJagan Mohan Reddy

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-------- Original message --------
From: Virendra Goel
Date: 26/03/2013 09:53 (GMT+05:30)

To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Dress Code

We must not forget that multitasking is going to be theÂ order of the future in the knowledge society that is emerging.

RegardsVirendra Goel

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From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Winston Jacob

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Dress CodeÂ The future is moving towards INTELLIGENCE & NOT titles!!Individuals HAVE to be intelligent,Innovative & High Performing individuals to be successful operators.under the circumstances Lifelong Learning is the way to go on On ACTION Learning mode.

Dr.Winston Jacob MBE
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On 25-Mar-2013, at 9:17 AM, "lakshminarayan bindumadhav rao" wrote:

Dear Prof. Bholanath,
Having operated in Reputed Business Houses like Tata Mittal etc.for nearly two and half decades in large setups i have hardly seen less than 1% of the employees are PhD's. All these industries are successful and Management Institutes are requesting them to take their students.

Let us not forget that nearly 90% OF M.B.A. STUDENTS JOIN industry may be 8% start their own business and less that 1% or nil take up teaching.
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Rao.L.B

From: "Prof. Bholanath Dutta"

Sent: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:05:25
To: join_mtc
Subject: [MTC Global] Dress Code
One of my Colleagues tells me ' In Academics, you should have more qualification like 2-3 Ph.D.s, 2-3 MBAs, 2-4 M.A. etc and you can easily get very good Salary. Do not bother about Knowledge much as no one is interested in that.'---- It is true in most of the places. People may disagree but it is the fact.

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