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Re: Re: [MTC Global] "Teaching requires a professional model"

I also have counter questions....
1) What are the measuring techniques of a "good" teacher?
2) Are all so-called "good" teachers being nurtured and paid "good" salary?
Regards,
Pinaki Ranjan Bhattacharyya


On 4/26/13, Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a counter question, are all those faculty members who are getting
> handsome salaries, good teachers?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Virendra Goel
>
>
>
> From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Rajamanickam Rajan
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:07 PM
> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [MTC Global] &quot;Teaching requires a professional model"
>
>
>
> Dear MTCians
>
>
>
> Greetings to one and all.
>
>
>
> Learned academicians and experts in the field of Management Education must
> bear with me for the following comments pertaining to the quality of
> teaching in Management.
>
>
>
> I have few specific points that should be considered for the discussions.
>
>
>
> Do the pay masters sincerely reward and recognize the faculty members who
> had made significant contribution to the growth fo their institutions?
>
>
>
> Paymasters wish to have faculty members who are willing to work for a
> meager
> salary. I wish to point out that if one is paid Rs 45000 or so, he will be
> replaced with 3 faculty by paying Rs. 15000.
>
>
>
> Again the feedback in most of the institutions in Tamilnadu is biased as it
> is being undertaken by their own faculty,. Deans/Directors stay behind
> this,
> offering a misleading information to their superiors to please them.
>
>
>
> According to my personal opinion, if a teacher realize his role and
> responsibilities towards this country, society, academic arena and not but
> the least to the students community and practice them honestly, I wish
> there
> will be a great transition in the field Management Education.
>
>
>
> Thanks with regards to one and all
>
>
>
> Dr. R. Rajan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM, kiran paranjpe
> <kdparanjpe@rediffmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Sir, I heard this: The teacher's level of the quality of teaching
> declines as the teacher continues to teach poorly qualified students for
> his
> subject. In these days of the education business, very few institutions pay
> attention to ensuring a high quality of the student intake. The chances are
> high that a teacher will need to struggle a lot to teach to ill qualified
> students and retain the skills of teaching.
> I believe, that as a starting point, a teacher's manual can be created, a
> manual that lays down the principles and practice of quality teaching going
> beyond sentiments and wish lists.
> There should faculty development programs that must involve simulated
> environments for teaching practice rather than only the experience of
> senior
> teachers. And teachers to undergo an examination both on theory and
> practice
> at the end of the program. This program can be done every six month.
> I feel that this kind of training programs will encourage everyone aspiring
> to become a teacher
>
> Best Regards
> K.Paranjpe
>
> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:45:54 +0530 wrote
>>The important drivers for professional development of teachers are the
> curriculum, resource materials, quality assurance, knowledge and skills
> of
> educational technology and the personal traits like, motivation, dedication
> and honesty. Professional competencies are developed by teachers from the
> experience gathered in the process of teaching. Also they improve their
> professional capabilities by attending the Staff Training programs and
> other related courses or programs.
> It is in this context, our well established organization can do a lot to
> professionalize our teachers. Would anyone think in this direction, and
> contribute the ideas?Prof Richard Hay
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Virendra Goel wrote:
>
> I beg to differ with Dr. Bhattacharya. I am sure there are members on the
> group who would vouch for giving due recognition, emoluments and freedom to
> the faculty members who are passionate about teaching and who deliver the
> results. If there are bad institutions, there are good one also.
>
>
> A second important aspect is linking the salary and perks to your passion.
> I
> believe in case of passion all these aspects do not come in the picture. If
> you say you will have passion for teaching if you are paid good salary,
> well! It is amusing as far as I am concerned.
>
>
> I also believe in the principle that more you give more your learn and
> learning is the only earning that becomes your wealth for ever.
>
> Regards
>
> Virendra Goel
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of DR P R BHATTACHARYYA
>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:02 PM
>
> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] "Teaching requires a professional model"
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Goel Sir,
>
> You said--------- "To me, one single most important reason of problems
> arising in the education system is absence of teachers with passion who
> love
> teaching. Need of the day is for faculty members to kindle that spirit of
> building a generation and indulge themselves in learning and sharing all
> the
> time despite the problems they are
>
>
> facing"---------
>
> Can you vouch that if a faculty with good knowledge, dedication, honesty,
> sincerity and passion for teaching will be given the opportunity to excel
> in
> his academic career???........ Sir, I doubt, because in most of the places
> the promoters feel that how can a faculty be best exploited without giving
> him proper food......in most of the cases at the time of interview, either
> the applicant is asked about reduction in salary or not given proper
> designation or proper role on some other alibi.....and this is not a stray
> incident....it is equaaly applicable even for a " so-called" reputed
> ones.......
>
>
> What I am trying to point is ----- " The promoters of today's educational
> institutes are more focussed to earn money only and not interested in
> Quality of Education....even the private universities are of the same
> type.... because most of them are either builders or dvelopers who is
> totally ignorant about academics.... Students today are taught in TEACHING
> SHOPS rather than TEACHING INSTITUTES.....
>
>
> Dr Pinaki Ranjan Bhattacharyya
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> On 4/23/13, Virendra Goel wrote:
>
>> So many friends have talked about outdated / irrelevant British Model
>
>> of education. Well, all of us who are today discussing on the platform
>
>> have studied under the same model and I am sure that we do not lack in
>
>> terms of our knowledge, intelligence or competency. To me, one single
>
>> most important reason of problems arising in the education system is
>
>> absence of teachers with passion who love teaching. Need of the day is
>
>> for faculty members to kindle that spirit of building a generation and
>
>> indulge themselves in learning and sharing all the time despite the
>
>> problems they are facing. This will pave way for a successful
>
>> education model, respect for teaching fraternity and their gains from the
> profession.
>
>>
>
>> Regards
>
>>
>
>> Virendra Goel
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On
>
>> Behalf Of Richard Hay
>
>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:00 PM
>
>> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
>
>> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] "Teaching requires a professional model"
>
>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> One of the basic failures of the Indian educational system is due to
>
>> the non-professionalization of the teaching profession. We still cling
>
>> on to the outdated British system,which they implemented in India when
>
>> they were our masters. .But, even though we have become independent,
>
>> our policy makers are still following that old model..
>
>>
>
>> We must, at least now, professionalize and reap the benefits.
>
>>
>
>> Prof R Hay
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM, ORS Rao ICFAI
>
>>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> This could be possibly be one way to keep faculty members current with
>
>> what is happening in industry and bridge the gap between industry and
> academia.
>
>>
>
>> IIT, Engineering colleges faculties to go for summer classes at
>
>> companies
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> aculties-to-go-for-summer-classes-at-companies-113041700548_1.html>
>
>> http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/iit-engineering-fa
>
>> culties-to-go-for-summer-classes-at-companies-113041700548_1.html
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>>
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>>
>
>> Regards
>
>>
>
>> ORS Rao
>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>
>>
>
>> From: GOPU VENKATSWAMY
>
>>
>
>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:56 PM
>
>>
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>> To: mtc.g group
>
>>
>
>> Subject: RE: [MTC Global] "Teaching requires a professional model"
>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> while I agree with the feelings of the present writers,I suggest more
>
>> and more faculty development and orientation programmes on latest
>
>> development in the concerned subjects,teaching and research methods,
>
>> field visits, need based application method of knowledge have to be
>
>> conducted on sustained basis.And it should be phased out,need based
>
>> and focussed.... concerned heads of institutions can take initiative,
>
>> assistence from senior teachers who have exp industry and academic
>
>> research orientation,proved academic excellence...unlike earlier years
>
>> these days many institutions and funding agencies are coming forward
>
>> for full or partial support. younger teachers must take advantage of
>
>> it to become good teachers in future years to come...and earn place
>
>> and respect in the society...especially in the eyes of students.
>
>> experience shows that good teachers,researchers,trainers and good
>
>> human beings with certain values are even today remembered, respected by
> students and colleagues...
>
>> (yet times it is not so for professional jelousies and otherpersonal
>
>> reasons we may have to ignore them...), they are real role models and
>
>> inspiring examples for others...!!thanks and best wishes..
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Dr Gopu Venkatswamy
>
>> Hyderabad
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> _____
>
>>
>
>> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:01:15 +0530
>
>> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] "Teaching requires a professional
>
>> model
>
>> From: drjaganmohanreddy@gmail.com
>
>> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
>
>>
>
>> Dear All
>
>>
>
>> I fully concur with the views expressed by Sri Prabhakar.
>
>>
>
>> Teacher enjoys a special/ unique place in our society since time
> immemorial.
>
>> Not discounting the importance of pedagogy, which we all talk about,
>
>> it's the passion and commitment of the teachers to create,
>
>> communicate and deliver the value which held them in high esteem.
>
>>
>
>> Teaching is an art and others can only help to refine but fire in the
>
>> belly has to be there. It would be great if some of the seniors among
>
>> us can come forward voluntarily to help the teachers, especially in
>
>> tier ii iii cities to improve their delivery mechanism.
>
>>
>
>> May we all have a great week end.
>
>>
>
>> DrAJagan Mohan Reddy
>
>>
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>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
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>> -------- Original message --------
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>> From: Prabhakar Waghodekar
>
>> Date: 18/04/2013 23:19 (GMT+05:30)
>
>> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
>
>> Cc: dumblekar@yahoo.com
>
>> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] "Teaching requires a professional model
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>>
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>>
>
>> Dear All,
>
>>
>
>> The world has been surviving from time immemorial only because of
>
>> teachers. Teaching needs to be considered as a whole, cannot be
>
>> compartmentalized as engineering, medicine, etc. Can engineer turn a
>
>> good human beings? A doctor? A scientists? But a (true)teacher does!
>
>> Teacher gives not only a specialized knowledge but also shows the path
>
>> how to lead life, how to be a good citizen, and so on so fourth.
>
>>
>
>> Regards.
>
>>
>
>> Yours,
>
>>
>
>> ________________________________________________
>
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:47:08 +0530 wrote
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>>> "We let doctors operate, pilots fly, and engineers
>
>> build because their
>
>> fields have developed effective ways of certifying that they can do
>
>> these things. Teaching, on the whole, lacks this specialized knowledge
>
>> base; teachers teach based mostly on what they have picked up from
>
>> experience and from their colleagues."
>
>> More agony and frustration
>
>> at:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/13/opinion/teachers-
>
>> will-we-ever-learn.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
>
>>
>
>> Best wishes.------------------------------------------
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