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Sunday, May 26, 2013

Re: [ACEsthetics] Clinical question on implants # 6-11

Thanks Craig and Rick

So the input is

1.  Implants over endo abutment teeth  
2.  conv and mini implants + Locators/ ERA attachments supported by an interim partial and loaded at 6m

Rick... the tissue is the issue!!!   Fortunately she does NOT have a high lip line
So the tx plan will include, implant supported interiam denturem load at 4months with prov,  reshape and buildup the prov and train the tissue from month 4 - 6  for proper proximal and facial contours

Arun
 


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Rick Coker <riccoker@gmail.com> wrote:
I would probably recommend that you remove the teeth, place four implants- #6, #8, #10,and #11 and place two mini- implants at #7 and #9, and make an immediate removable partial (flipper) with ERA's on the implants. Let the patient wear this for four months, then engage the implants for impressions and make your fixed bridge with those implants. 

Of course, you could always just do a immediate partial with transparent clasps. But the endo/buildup/ and fixed bridge method is just fraught with complications and the threat of failure again.

Rick


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM, ARUN NAYYAR <arunnayyardmd@gmail.com> wrote:
This morning a patient called and said she had snapped her anterior bridge off at tissue height. 
He denied any trauma... i think she bit into something hard with enogh force to snap the abutments.
No pulpal exposure!!! on any of the 4 abutments
She has 4 abutments,  #6,8,10 and 11

I made the prosthesis as a part of a recon some 15years ago.  
She wears a bite guard and is v compliant with 3 m recalls. 
 All the other 22 restorations are doing well at 15 years


SO here is the Q  
 A intelligent patient... well read and does her due diligence.  

Q1    Do endo on 4 abutment teeth, then posts, surgical crown lengthening and a 6 unit 4 abutment FPD

Or 
Q2:    Extract roots, pack bone, do immediate implants placement, immediate or delayed loading 
          And do SIX  individual implants /crowns   ( with guided surgery )

OR

Q3     Extract roots, pack bone, do immediate implants placement, immediate or delayed loading 
          And place THREE or  FOUR  implants and make a 6 unit splinted prosthesis.   ( with guided surgery )

Interestingly when we consider 4 endo, surgical cr lengthening, 4 cores + a 6 unit prosthesis over implants

 . the implants provide a longer clinical life and will be expedient and cost a few more $$

As I debate this in my own mind,  I reach out to you for input

Biggest Q is that before implants,  the only choice was to endo, core and a FPD.  Today we have the option of  implant supported prosthesis

We also know the ROI and long term value for the patient favors implants


4 endo + core + FPD  vs  4 implants +  FPD.  vs    6 implants and 6 individual crowns 


 Thank you

Arun
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Arun Nayyar DMD,MS.  Atlanta, Georgia


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