Mr Mukefor Tambe I will never change because of idiots like you.
Did I got you well that the Southern Cameroons is part of your motherland? Are you insane?
Asking you that doesn't mean you are not, you are truly a madman and even worst than that in a phycaitric center.
Please if your family fails to get you cured now tomorrow might be to late.
You see Tambe when I was talking and shouting here about the actions of one Mr Susungi and the likes of Dr Nick Ngwanyam Mr Fru Ndi John people were never taking me serious but guess what it is now all history, Ngwanyam and Fru Ndi are no longer disturbing us here with Senatorial brouhaha do you know why Lucifer had given them a pinch of his medicine and the guys are now very very satisfied.
I believe one day the same will be done to you so that you will allow us here to be steadfast in what we want
Tambe as I have earlier said please you need someone to counsel you and I am referring you to a Catholic priest for they have the powers to cure you.
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Alfred Bawak <alfred.bawak@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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Mr Foncham,
Childish stuff.
You don't know Mr Tambe.
A
--- On Fri, 24/5/13, Fred Foncham <fredfoncham@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Fred Foncham <fredfoncham@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Greenpeace: Herakles, Obtuse Cameroonians and their leaders.ain
To: "ambasbay" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
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Date: Friday, 24 May, 2013, 17:11--Mr. Tambe,The real phantom in most of these debates is Tambe. The one who phantasises from Sussex on becoming governor in a region he prefers to sink under a colonial regime. Lets imagine for one second that governors were elected through some fair process and the aspirants got their job based on the agenda. Would't you be worried by now that taking the wrong side in each debate and putting across belated analysis totally abstracted from the reality our people face, would have disqaulified from the socalled governorship? You come across like a typical loud mouth individual with a large ego but very little contextual substance. You must realise early enough that if a failure like yourself can have the guts to phantasise about becoming a governor, then any individual can phantasis about ending the impunity of an occupied regime. You remember the day Sussex died? Any coincidence that a loud mouth buffon chosed Sussex as hide out where he can shot like a coward?On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Dennis Tambe <dbtmamfe@hotmail.com> wrote:
Governor Achu,
I will not address your phantom Southern Cameroons and your proclivity towards promoting secession from our mutual fatherland The Republic of Cameroon, a country that you helped build and served.
You should now be taming your outlaw tendencies in anticipation of you or your body returning to the domicile of your fathers.
Leave that Southern Cameroons brouhaha to young turks who naturally must be rebels in their 20s and early 30s.
The Herakles debacle is not in the realm of fantasy.
Mukefor
Gubernatorial Aspirant
South West Region.
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From: gamya39@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:45:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Greenpeace: Herakles, Obtuse Cameroonians and their leaders.ain
Why is the self-proclaimed, "Governor Aspirant" of the Southwest Region, a man of law and a southwest elite blaming the victim (civil society, traditional rulers, Africans et al), instead of his virtual government colleagues of the occupation authority that approved, condoned, aided and abetted this foreign exploitation of his people scheme?What of the core issue he has swept under the bed: the intentional misrepresentations (fraud) by the foreign land grabber - criminal conduct which lawyers like him should call by its name: "stealing by false pretenses"(if land were a chattel)?What of the fact that Cameroun, the lessor (donor) of the land, has no legal title to it and, consequently, cannot transfer good title to it?Does he not know that under international law, in the absence of an enforceable agreement, the jurisdiction of states is limited to the land within their boundaries at independence?Does he knw that Southern Cameroons was not part of Cameroun Republic when it had independence in 1960?Does, the Governor Aspirant know that current international law bans colonization and mandates that states respect the territorial integrity of other states? Does he know colonization is an international crime, as demonstrated by the use of force to expel Iraq from Kuwait?Does he not mind being counted among those of his people who supported the foreign occupation, domination and EXPLOITATION of their state and people- as the Vichy regime did during the German occupation of France during World War II? If he does not, could some one ask if he rushed to get his own piece of the cake from Herakles as recommended by some supporters of the mirage?I'll by quoting a French proverb: "Faut pas prendre les enfants du Bon Dieu pour des canards sauvages" (Don't mistake the Good God's children for geese).G. A.
Sent from my iPadCameroonians,
The Herakles debacle provides the opportunity to castigate dysfunctional Cameroon state processes and our equally dysfunctional civil society.
We all know or have heard of the lethargy associated with Presidential approvals. NGO's seeking Presidential approval for "public utility" purposes must operate for three years before being granted such approval. If Heracles was expected to demonstrate its "public utility" (mind-boggling requirement for a private profit-oriented company), it was very normal for the company to kick-off operations while waiting for the laggard Cameroon State to meander through its self-harmful lackadaisical decision-making processes.
Going by CDC's example, we all know the social dividends (employment, schools, hospitals, roads, etc) that would have accrued from Herakles plantation farming. The real issue at stake was that Herakles refused to be all things to all people; Ndian Chiefs and elites were falling over themselves for Herakles' immediate "manna from Heaven". Indolent villagers accused their chiefs of taking bribes from Herakles and not sharing them. In a country with two hundred and eighty political parties, everyone acts in his self-interest and unanimity of purpose and action is unheard of. Poverty engenders chaos amongst indigent peoples.
We must not delight in the inconceivable situation in which the sovereign state of Cameroon gives access to 73,000 hectares of national land to a foreign company and its foreign executives (investment approvals given, entry visas and work permits granted) and then obtusely states that Presidential approval was lacking. How can any educated, sophisticated and exposed person applaud an outcome that ridicules Cameroon state processes and our indigent civil society? What became of the rule of law in Cameroon? Must we subject astute foreign investors to the same abuse that Cameroonians are routinely subjected to?
Potential investors in Cameroon must now think twice. They must shudder at the prospect of encountering similar treatment. Heracles is now suffering from the black race's legendary irresoluteness and fuzziness when it comes to raising itself out of debilitating poverty. We all know that Ndian Chiefs and elites were falling over themselves for Herakles' "manna from Heaven". Indolent villagers accused their chiefs of taking bribes from Herakles and not sharing them. The greedy quest for immediate dividends has upstaged the multiplier effect Herakles plantation farming would have had on the Ndian and Cameroon economies.
Just like in colonial times, the agenda has again been set and dictated for obtuse black people by foreign organizations like Greenpeace who would rather visit black African tribes in jungle reservations than see them as respectable individuals voluntarily earning their keep in large scale farms. Such farms operated by CDC provided the sustenance for many of our parents who raised us and saw us through secondary schools. Today, Cameroonian apologists for foreign meddlers are thumbing their noses at plantation jobs, branding them "slavery". We are not insulting Herakles. We are insulting the sagacity of our parents who took plantation jobs for our betterment
Black Africans must grow up to understand that no other race or peoples will ever have their best interests at heart. We must rid ourselves of the infantile gullibility that leads us to associate with the likes of Greenpeace and the Oakland Institute that are more concerned with global warming than with economic empowerment and sustenance for abjectly poor blacks.
Mukefor Dennis Besong Tambe
Sussex, United Kingdom.
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From: dibussitande@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 19:22:10 -0500
Subject: [cameroon_politics] Greenpeace: Herakles Cameroon palm oil project starts to run off the rails
http://greenpeaceblogs.org/2013/05/22/herakles-cameroon-palm-oil-project-starts-to-run-off-the-rails/
Herakles Cameroon palm oil project starts to run off the rails
Bruce Wrobel, the chief executive of Herakles Farms, claims his company's efforts to flatten a chunk of Cameroon's dense rainforest to develop a palm oil plantation are borne of a desire to address a "dire humanitarian need".
Yet this week Herakles has had to suspend its activities in Cameroon following a forestry ministry order for the company to halt clearing work at their Talangaye nursery in the southwest region of the country.
Greenpeace has long been among those calling out Wrobel and his company over their failure to tell the real truth over their project. The suspension of work is merely the latest evidence that the proposed plantation is a mess, despite the company's ever-present PR machine.
In contravention of national law, in the face of local opposition and a huge threat to the local environment, the development is simply the wrong project in the wrong place and it needs to be stopped.
Today, together with the Oakland Institute we have released a new report revealing just how big the discrepancy is between what Wrobel and his friends say publicly and what they are saying to potential investors.
Compiled through confidential internal Herakles documents, here some of the biggest fibs exposed in Herakles Exposed.
The reality: Herakles has yet to receive a land lease from the Cameroonian government and thus possesses no right to develop its concession area. It has been in violation of national law since 2010. The new order from the forestry ministry again proves Herakles has far from all the permissions required.
The claim: Herakles does not tolerate corruption.
The reality: Evidence strongly suggests Herakles has resorted to bribery, the offer of cash gifts and promises of employment to obtain the consent of some local communities and the government to facilitate the project.
The claim: In a widely circulated open letter of 2012 by Herakles CEO Bruce Wrobel, the company claimed that all timber generated by the project's massive deforestation would benefit the Cameroonian government.
The reality: In direct contradiction to Wrobel's public claim, however, Herakles' presentations intended to attract investors has estimated the company may bank US$60 – US$90 million on the sale of timber and brags about the "profit uplift". We feel sorry for financiers that have been tempted by Herakles profit projections because Cameroonian law states that only accredited logging companies can commercialise timber. And as Wrobel himself wrote, Herakles "are not commercial loggers".
The claim: Herakles will produce 34 tonnes of palm bunches (FFB) per hectare at peak production.
The reality: The most experienced palm producers in Africa yield 26 tonnes FFB per hectare and most plantations yield less than 20 tonnes FFB at peak production.
The reality: The company promises in an investment advisory it would clear more than 10,000 hectares of land in order to plant 1.5 million oil palm seedlings. However, internal communications from employees reveal Herakles is in no position to clear that much land and that the seedlings and nursery are already overgrown by nine months, meaning work is unable to proceed at the advertised speed.
Okay, so Herakles is not the first American or international company to employ questionable business practices abroad … so why does it matter so much?
Since 2008 there has been a massive land rush on the African continent as foreign companies and governments look to produce commodities, biofuels, and food staples in addition to asserting foreign control over natural resources such as timber, minerals and water. The heavily forested areas of the Congo Basin are prime targets as companies search for rich soil in areas with a low population density.
If Herakles' project succeeds – despite the illegalities, the massive deforestation, destruction of local livelihoods and false claims to investors – many other investors may attempt to do the same.
That is why the project must be stopped – permanently. Tell Herackles Farms CEO that you the palm oil project in Cameroon is not sustainable development.
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