If we want to global ranker in education, we need to observe the global ranking
parameters that are time proven. Let us see Indian Scenario:
1.
No academic audit.
2.
No process and Performance Management.
3,
No performance appraisal.
4.
Teaching and industry are separate entities.
5.
Teaching has nothing to do with research.
6.
Adapt tenure jobs systems based on achievements.
7.
No one floats own market driven courses. Etc.
Please see the attachment.
Regards.
Yours,
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On Fri, 03 May 2013 23:04:27 +0530 wrote
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To show that these rankings are quite flawed, I would submit that I was recently
part of a survey conducted by Reuter and AP to rank global institutions of higher
learning in the area of business. They asked for ranking between 1 through 10. The
survey allowed
write - in if your college/university was not in the list. I was appalled to see
that IITs were not in the list. Having taught recently at IITD, and having taught
at several leading universities in the world (U of Michigan, Case Western Reserve,
Purdue) felt
that IITD also should be in the top somewhere. But despite the claim in the
survey, I was not allowed to choose or write in IITD.
I tried to contact Reuter using a reply button of the survey e-mail but it bounced
back.
However, the reason why some of the best universities in India are not in global
rankings is far deeper than survey design or operational flaws. From my vintage
point, it's a matter of how we structure and rank our scholarly values. In the US
and Europe,
research is considered the highest value (as reflected in number of publications
in top journals such as Management Science (for Operations Management discipline),
EJOR etc. Next is teaching and then professional service. BTW if you are an editor
or have a
senior ranking editorial capacity on a good journal, it is considered the highest
scholastic accomplishment and as a clear evidence of sustained high-quality
scholarship. We do not see that kind of value structure in INdia. Here teaching is
the dominant scholarly
value. I believe that with their great flourish in English and superior
intellect, Indian scholars can easily publish in top journals. Unfortunately the
daunting teaching load, none or minimal grading support, lack of access of
articles addressing recent developments
in a field are all factors that work towards decelerating research productivity.
[I have for instance electronic access to over 150000 journals in all fields... ].
I think recipe to become world class is fairly simple but requires a lot of
planning and a recasting of scholarly values-culture and a total commitment
(including a reward and penalty structure) from the institutional head to the
point of obsession. Finally,
we need to play by the rules of the west, however unpalatable they might be....
once there, we may influence the rules. The recipe is: 1. Publish is top
US/European journals voluminously (there is whole science to it but it can be
surely done), and 2. Organize
a global conference on an emerging discipline where you get globally renowned key
note speakers, and sessions should be rigorously reviewed for content quality.
Also, institute an award that is globally revered but ... that's after the
institution has established
itself as a leader.
Currently the discipline that needs to be explored for uplifting an institution of
higher learning into the portfolio of world class institutions issustainable
developmentin my view.
What do others think?
Ashok
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Prakash Agarwal [spagarwal@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 7:48 AM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] College rankings - American perspectives
May be the Americans do not know how to appraise, assess and rank universities.
May be they are biased.
May be we as a country and society feel so low and downwith such low ratings.
May be we need to have our own 'independent' rating for feedback and correction.
I AM INVOLVED IN FORMAL TEACHING FROM 1969, ABOUT 44 YEARS,INCLUDING AT WELL
RECOGNISED INSTITUTIONS LIKE IIMA. I HAVE STUDIED IN SYDENHAM COLLEGE WHICH WAS
CONSIDERED AS THE BEST COMMERCE COLLEGE IN ASIA, WHILE I WAS THERE FROM 1961-65.
I HAVE HAD A REASONABLY GOOD ACADEMIC RECORD HAVING STOOD FIRST IN THE UNIVERSITY,
FIRST IN INDIA IN COST ACCOUNTING, SECOND IN INDIA IN CA, THIRD IN THE WORLD IN
COSTING GROUP OF UK, ETC. MY STUDENTS AND TRAINEES AND SUBORDINATESOCCUPY QUITE A
FEW TOP
AND SENIOR POSITIONS IN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.
The reason, I am mentioning the above is becausesome of you may question my
credentials. I have witnessed a DEFINITE DECLINE AND FALL IN STANDARDS OF OUR
EDUCATION OVER TIME. I AM NOT SURPRISED IF WE ARE RATED POORLY THOUGH WE LIKE TO
BELIEVE THAT WE
ARE GREAT IF NOT THE GREATEST. TO ME WE SEEM TO LIVE IN A STATE OF HYPOCRISY AND
MAKE-BELIEF.
INSTEAD OF BEING DEFENSIVE, I WOULD BE HAPPIER, IF I COULD SEE AN EDUCATION GROUP
DISCUSSING HOW WE CAN BECOME BETTER AND THEN BEST, AT LEAST, IN SOME AREAS.
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE AND AM CONVINCED THAT WE CAN BECOME BETTER AND STRIVE FOR
EXCELLENCE IF WE HAVE A DESIRE, DETERMINATION AND BELIEF IN THAT DIRECTION.
LET US WAKE UP AND MAKE INDIA GREAT!!
Best regards.
Satya Prakash Agarwal
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Dr Vinod Dumblekar
College rankings
By Jenna Johnson
If college rankings are to be believed,Warren
Wilson Collegein North Carolina has the most liberal students, theCollege
of Woosterin Ohio has the smartest professors, andRice
Universityhas the happiest undergrads. And the very best college in the country
isPrinceton.
Or Harvard and Princetonin
a tie.
It doesn't take a bachelor's degree to figure out that most college rankings are
at best highly flawed and at worst completely bogus. Rankings formally started
back in the early 1980s, when U.S. News & World Report came up with measurements
to judge the nation's
top universities so consumers could vet a school before enrolling. The list
weighs many factors, including academic reputation, retention and graduation
rates, faculty pay and credentials, incoming student test scores and alumni
donations.
Over the years, this methodology has become complicated and controversial — and
sometimes the results are inaccurate. In the past year, U.S. News has publicly
shamed a number of schools for fudging their numbers or outright cheating. George
Washington Universitylost
its No. 51 rankingafter school officials disclosed that they had accidentally
miscalculated the academic credentials of incoming freshmen.
U.S. News likes to describe its rankings as a public service to consumers — but
sales of magazines, books and Web advertising driven by clicks have been highly
profitable for the company. And that success and exposure have prompted others to
get into the game.
Even the Obama administration recently unveiled acollege
scorecard Web site. It has data on nearly every college in the country and
focuses on graduation rates and affordability, which some have criticized as an
overly simple way to compare schools.
The worst rankings are those that attempt to evaluate such things as party scenes,
dorm food and even professors' looks — based on online surveys, questionable
statistics and unfair stereotypes. There is no way such lists help students
properly pick a college.
While rankings are often the starting place for many college searches, most
families tend to make their final decisions based on information provided directly
by the school. Other factors, such as cost, distance from home and a campus's
atmosphere during a
whirlwind tour — and, frankly, gut instinct — can be far more influential than
rankings. While a sliver of the population enrolls at the nation's most selective,
top-ranked colleges and universities, many more attend institutions that you've
probably never
heard of, schools that are not always forthcoming about their abysmal graduation
rates, sky-high student debt loads, teetering accreditation and serious financial
problems.
How about we stop obsessing about rankings and start caring about that?
jenna.johnson@washpost.com
Jenna Johnsonreports on higher education for The Washington Post.
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