Re: [MTC Global]" Does Higher Education really matters"

Dear all, From the discussion it transpires that as academicians there is a very narrow perspective which has been attached to the term "education" and "higher education". One should appreciate that the term "education" and "higher education" has a wider connotation in terms of "enhancing understanding, skills and its applications" to derive the desired results. While some of us have been educated through formal education, seen by everyone in the form of degrees, some of them have their "education" through hard work, trial and error method, so and so forth. So those of us who are overly obsessed with degrees, tend to look down upon those who do not possess these degrees, like how the rich scorn at the middle and lower class. However, it is worthy of appreciation, that those who do not have had the fortune of formal education, still have learnt and proved themselves. But that has not precluded them from continuing their learning, and many of them have pursued formal education to map theory to practice. So to sum it up in a process flow context  Formal education ----- theory ---- experiment ----- learn ------ become wise. Experiment ----- learn ---partially wise ------ formal education ------- theory ------- become wise. Which ever way we look at, the ingredients - formal education, theory, experiment, learn are essential to complete the cycle.  Happy discussions Lt Col (Retd) L Shri Harsha, PgMP, PMP --- On Tue, 4/6/13, Ashutosh Pandey <ashutosh.18oct@gmail.com> wrote: From: Ashutosh Pandey <ashutosh.18oct@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MTC Global]" Does Higher Education really matters" To: "join_mtc" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, 4 June, 2013, 12:46 PM Dear Esteemed MTCians Its true that college drop out successful people are less in percentage  but what really does matter is their impact factor. What i believe the impact factor of these less in percentage college dropouts are  much more than the higher educated mass of people. Thanks & Regards Ashutosh Pandey MTCian & Academician. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Satish Oberoi <oberoi50@yahoo.com> wrote: There cannot be a complete  answer on the subject. . . Education refines thinking and enables broader vision. This enhanced attribute creates a number of doubts and fears inducing inhibitions. On the other hand untrained and unrefined entrepreneur, without burden of doubts and fears, enters the competitive world  in full resolve to achieve success. If luck is on his side, he will make it to the top. Since lady luck favors select few, we find large number of entrepreneurs fall on the wayside.   When luck is supporting an individual, it implies he gets orders, gets guidance from qualified individuals, and  funds are made available easily.   Regards, Satish Oberoi From: drjaganmohanreddy <drjaganmohanreddy@gmail.com> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 10:25 Subject: RE: [MTC Global]" Does Higher Education really matters" Education refines one's way of thinking and enables him to have a broader vision. But I for one don't believe education alone makes a complete man. The basic talent and traits are to be there which get further polished wirh the education. There are people who made it to the top despite not being educated. But a balance of the two , that is, , education with experience would be like icing on the cake.  DrAJagan Mohan Reddy Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com> Date: 04/06/2013 09:14 (GMT+05:30) To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [MTC Global]" Does Higher Education really matters" I am a matriculate and I believe that not only I have been a successful industrialist and today I am invited to business schools for guest lectures. However, I have realized that if I had opportunity to complete my professional education, I could have perhaps achieved in one decade what took me three decades. Regards Virendra Goel   From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of padma misra Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:47 PM To: join_mtc Subject: Re: [MTC Global]" Does Higher Education really matters"   reading the title of this discussion..it makes me wonder....how many of the successful entrepreneurs are !0th fail and how many college dropouts.   if education didnt matter than we can have all the companies and organizations and educational institutions run by college dropouts...   Every successful entrepreneur has a mentor or a teacher or someone who supported emotionally or financially or socially....did we try to find out they were 10th fail and college dropouts...   my argument is without finding out the situations that led to such remarkable successful businessmen...it would be a dis-service to so many educated people on this planet..   yes education and higher education is must..its continuous improvement is event more important..which off course has a lot of ground to cover...that is the improvement part...:P   last of all Chankya....was also very highly educated.......so this is a non debate about whether higher education really matters...it does...   only its form may change...from theoretical, to practical...experimental...    it could be a high skill development...and PHD is just one of those things.... for research    but please i know of people who are great researchers and yet dont hold a PHD...   regards   Dr. Padma   On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ashutosh Pandey <ashutosh.18oct@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Esteemed MTCians   With due respect i would like to have an open discussion on the issue of higher education, P.h.D is going on as a very hot topic but are we really serving the purpose... 10th  fail is a successful entrepreneur, college dropout is IT tycoon, do we need an example to prove.  --   Thanks & Regards Ashutosh Pandey MTCian & Academician   -- MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group. 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