Please, everyone should Google and Watch "Jesse Duplantis: What He Saw in Heaven." - https://www.youtube.com
Spend more time to watch others. Thank you.
--- On Fri, 6/28/13, Chief Mosenge Humphrey <chiefmosenge@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Chief Mosenge Humphrey <chiefmosenge@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
To: "visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com" <visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013, 7:10 AM
Prof, I think that's the best conclusion because Winnie is by his side not complaining, I see no reason why all intellectual powers must debate this. Who is perfect and by whose standards? Let us just continue to pray, our God listens and only He can forgive. Have a Blessed day. Chief Mosenge Humphrey
From: Lucas T. TANDAP <ltandap@yahoo.com>
To: "visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com" <visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
If I say that I understand the mutual circumstances of the situation this includes what you are saying, thank God. There is a saying to the effect that,"if the earth were peopled with saints, there will be no heaven." In my hearts of hearts, knowing what I know, Mandela will leave this earth in peace by my earthly judgment, given that his former wife, the present and himself are reconciled; unless any one wants to create a problem for them.
LT
From: "sirabotoky@yahoo.com" <sirabotoky@yahoo.com>
To: visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
Prof Tandap, We in RSA will appreciate your write up and deep understanding of the practicalities. However, South Africans, most of Africa and the UN at large have declared the man a hero and not a saint and that should be respected. I know you have a right to differ, but that constitutes a personal opinion as we all know the generally accepted position of South Africans ,Africans and the World at large. Let's spend time praying for Mandela now that he is almost at the cross roads and reserve judgement to God and criticising for another day. Just a tip - It is generally an unwritten ground rule that you can constitute a public nuisance on the streets of South Africa if caught speaking negatively about Madiba and the unthinkable could happen to you if luck does not know your surname. This is not in any law or policy, but is engraved into the hearts of almost all South Africans including the old apartheid beneficiaries. Beware Group members. Sir.Abotoky JHB-RSA Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! From: "Lucas T. TANDAP" Sender: visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 06:07:10 -0700 (PDT) To: visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
Very much depends what we understand by forgiveness. I very well know the circumstances of their feud and believe that many a man would have behaved a little differently - negatively. Both of them understood the circumstances and there has been mutual forgiveness - I do believe. I would prefer to leave the judgment to God who does not give a deadline for forgiveness.
LT
From: Bernard Enang
To: "visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
Hi Nzelle, Mandela is an African Leading Hero whose presidential leadership and heroism won him international recognition and a consultant. and thus a Hero. I think you should see him as a hero first:coming out of prison,became president and did not revenge and secondly he gave up power peacefully. His crisis with Winnie,i think shouldn't disqualify him as a hero infront of any objective panel. Thanks. Bernard ENANG Ngoe Minnesota -USA
From: Ekukole Nzelle
To: "visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
He did not, I have a hard time seeing him as a hero. She stood by him, he refused to stand by her when she most needed his support. Why, because he wanted to be a hero in the eyes of the world, and so failed to be his FAMILY'S HERO. I think he should be ashamed of himself FOR the disgrace he gave Winnie. I have seen simple men forgave thier wives, Mandela FAILED FAMOUSLY FOR WHAT HE DID TO WINNIE, A WOMAN OF SUBSTANCE. Nelson Mandela owes Winnie an apology then I can begin to see him as a Hero, or a Great leader. Remember its the little things we do that makes the difference, not the huge mighty deeds.
From: Elizabeth Ngwa
To: "Bright-expressions@yahoogroups.com" ; "AFRICANEMPIRE@yahoogroups.com" ; "Africantalk@yahoogroups.com" ; "AfriCanID@yahoogroups.com" ; visionaryleader@yahoogroups.com; ambasbay@yahoogroups.com; ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [visionaryleader] Did Nelson Mandela famously forgive Winnie?
I join my prayers with all those praying for President Nelson Mandela.
I hoped, he did "Forgive" his ex-wife Winnie Mandela who stood by him through difficult times.
To ere is Human, To forgive Divine!
Eli. Ngwa.
--- On Tue, 6/25/13, TENYAFIRM wrote:
From: TENYAFIRM
Subject: [visionaryleader] Fw: "Nelson Mandela famously forgave his oppressors"
To: "Bright-expressions@yahoogroups.com" , "AFRICANEMPIRE@yahoogroups.com" , "Africantalk@yahoogroups.com" , "AfriCanID@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013, 12:45 PM
----- Forwarded Message ----- by Rosabeth Moss Kanter "Great Leaders Know When to Forgive"|
Leaders must be firm and foster accountability, but they also must know
when to forgive past wrongs in the service of building a brighter future. One
of the most courageous acts of leadership is to forgo the temptation to
take revenge on those on the other side of an issue or those who opposed
the leader's rise to power.
Instead of settling scores, great leaders make gestures of reconciliation
that heal wounds and get on with business. This is essential for
turnarounds or to prevent mergers from turning into rebellions against
acquirers who act like conquering armies.
Nelson Mandela famously forgave his oppressors. After the end of apartheid,which had fostered racial separation and kept blacks impoverished, Mandelabecame South Africa's first democratically elected President. Some in his political party clamored for revenge against members of the previous regime
or perhaps even all privileged white people. Instead, to avoid violence,
stabilize and unite the nation, and attract investment in the economy,
Mandela appointed a racially integrated cabinet, visited the widow of one
of the top apartheid leaders, and created the Truth and Reconciliation
Commission that would clear the air and permit moving forward.
If revenge is not justice, it is not strategy either. The founder of a
second-tier computer company was pushed out a few years after the company
went public. I watched him gather investors and regain control with
something to prove — that they were wrong to push him out. Once back at the
helm, he had no clear alternative direction. The company foundered and was
sold at a low valuation. Let's hope that revenge against critics isn't the
motivation for Michael Dell to take Dell private or the founder of Best Buy
to attempt a takeover. Anger and blame are unproductive emotions that tie up energy in destroying
rather than creating. People who want to save a marriage, for example, must
let go of the desire to hurt a partner the way they think the partner has
hurt them and instead make a gesture of reconciliation.
Those whose main motivation is to settle scores and get payback — to
obstruct rather than construct — are on the wrong side of history. Their
legacy is not rebuilding, but rubble. From (ahem) members of Congress to
leaders in any turnaround situation, it's a lesson worth remembering:
Taking revenge can destroy countries, companies, and relationships.
Forgiveness can rebuild them.
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__._,_.___ Visionary leaders are the builders of a new dawn, working with imagination, insight, and boldness. They present a challenge that calls forth the best in people and brings them together around a shared sense of purpose. They work with the power of intentionality and alignment with a higher purpose. Their eyes are on the horizon, not just on the near at hand. They are social innovators and change agents, seeing the big picture and thinking strategically.
There is a profound interconnectedness between the leader and the whole, and true visionary leaders serve the good of the whole. They recognize that there is some truth on both sides of most polarized issues in our society today. They search for solutions that transcend the usual adversarial approaches and address the causal level of problems. They find a higher synthesis of the best of both sides of an issue and address the systemic root causes of problems to create real breakthroughs. .  __,_._,___
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