- After dismissing the false Limbo Theology, they said that children must be baptized or else they automatically go to hell should they die. Rubbish! This is not true. This is absolutely not true! The Purgatory Doctrine is false. The Bible says that the BELIEF and the FAITH and the SALVATION of ONLY one parent is enough for the child: 1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. DO YOU KNOW what the Lord God means when he calls your child HOLY? That child makes heaven immediately should the child die without Baptism! Baptizing infants has no meaning. They have neither understanding of the spirit behind the act, and, hence, they have no repentance. Mt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
- There are two types of Baptisms. Man baptizes with water and the Lord Jesus himself baptizes with the HOLY GHOST and with FIRE! Water and the Holy Spirit. The so-called Confirmation Ceremony dilutes the content, the context and the intent and the meaning and the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Groups like the Charismatic Movements, the Maranatha and even individuals who have discovered the dunamis – dynamic power to cause changes - in true Holy Ghost Baptism and the attendant praying in tongues have been excommunicated. Why? Either ignorance or the sinister intent to keep members weak so that the fail to have POWER IN THE INNER MAN/WOMAN to overcome the wiles of the devil. Listen, my friends, Jesus is the Christ but the Christ is not ONLY Jesus. The Christ is the unction to function, the anointing, the POWER of God, working in you. For 29 years of his life, the Lord Jesus was an ordinary man like you and the Old Me. But on the day of his Baptism with Water, he received another Baptism – the Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost. The heavens opened and the POWER came upon him! He could now move on the fast-tract. He could now heal the sick and raise the dead. Ac 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Without that POWER you are ordinary. Be Extraordinary! Receive ye the Holy Ghost, this very minute and function at a higher level! How do you receive the Holy Ghost? It depends on you? Do you desire the DUNAMIS? Do you want the Lord Jesus to empower you? Then do this:
- They said that Yeshua the ha-Mashiach or Jesus the Christ of Jesus the Messiah was born on December 25th. This is not true. He was born on August 21, 7BC – 8 full years before the actual calendar date of his birth! In his book 'Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives', published on 22/11/2012, Pope Benedict XVI wrote that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly believed. This means that the entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, according to the Pope. YET that ERROR has not been corrected and droves on folks will soon celebrate another Christmas based on a falsehood.
- Jesus the Christ did not die on Good Friday neither did he resurrect on Easter Sunday. These dates were force-fed down our throats by the Roman Catholic Church under false pretenses and in total disregard of the KNOWN Jewish calendar. The Sabbath starts from Friday evening and runs to Saturday evening. Sunday is the first day of the Jewish week. The Jewish Passover begins on Tuesday hence the crucifixion was on a Thursday! The Lord Jesus himself gave the timelines; Mt 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS! You can count, can't you? From Good Friday to Easter Sunday is not, three days and three nights is it? Sunday had to be dragged into it to suit the Greek and Roman consecration of this day to Apollo, the heathen Sun god. Moreover, the Bible states clearly that the Lord Jesus was already risen and gone before the women got to the tomb on Sunday, the first day of the week.
Mt 28:1 In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Mr 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Mr 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. Lu 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
- The Lord God is no longer in the business of living in cathedrals or synagogues or temples. In fact, the only man the Lord God allowed to build a temple for him was Solomon because of the Love of God in his father, David. When Israel sinned, God allowed heathen to waste that temple. The Christ does not live in a falsely pious place reserved for the HOST. You are the Temple OF GOD! Yes, you! One second after you believe and CONFESS that Jesus is Lord as I just showed you in Romans 10.8-13. Believers are the Temple of God: the abode of the LIVING God. So much so that the Lord God lives in us.
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
- They said that Yeshua the ha-Mashiach or Jesus the Christ of Jesus the Messiah was born on December 25th. This is not true. He was born on August 21, 7BC – 8 full years before the actual calendar date of his birth! In his book 'Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives', published on 22/11/2012, Pope Benedict XVI wrote that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly believed. This means that the entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, according to the Pope. YET that ERROR has not been corrected and droves on folks will soon celebrate another Christmas based on a falsehood.
- Jesus the Christ did not die on Good Friday neither did he resurrect on Easter Sunday. These dates were force-fed down our throats by the Roman Catholic Church under false pretenses and in total disregard of the KNOWN Jewish calendar. The Sabbath starts from Friday evening and runs to Saturday evening. Sunday is the first day of the Jewish week. The Jewish Passover begins on Tuesday hence the crucifixion was on a Thursday! The Lord Jesus himself gave the timelines; Mt 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS! You can count, can't you? From Good Friday to Easter Sunday is not, three days and three nights is it? Sunday had to be dragged into it to suit the Greek and Roman consecration of this day to Apollo, the heathen Sun god. Moreover, the Bible states clearly that the Lord Jesus was already risen and gone before the women got to the tomb on Sunday, the first day of the week.
Mt 28:1 In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Mr 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Mr 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. Lu 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends, what we have herein is a pattern; a pattern that started more than 2000 years ago.
See why.
Two thousand years of False Teachings
- They said that there was a place called Limbo, where you could actually die in a state of sin and unbelief but just put some MONEY aside for the High Mass, the Low Mass and the Fat Mass to be said for you post your demise. Then your soul will leave Limbo and then, by magic, move over to heaven: As if the Lord God can be bought and sold. Well, some years ago, the Vatican itself said the Limbo doctrine is FALSE and rightly so! You see, friend, you cannot buy salvation with a Mass and when you die IN SIN or without Jesus: You are dead! Salvation is a personal thing: A choice and it depends on you! Salvation is the easiest thing in the world. Salvation is a Free gift from God to us all; be you kom or bafut, rich or poor, Catholic or Baptist or even Moslem. There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Read Romans 10.-13; If thou shall believe in thy heart that Jesus is Lord and thou shall confess with thy MOUTH that God has raised him from the dead thou shall be saved. The false Limbo Theology developed from a misconstruction of the Parable of the Rich and the Poor MAN or the Gospel of Abraham's Bosom in Luke 16. While hell is a real place, the Lord Jesus abolished Abraham's Bosom when he resurrected. Henceforth the dead in Christ i.e. those who believe, are with the Lord immediately in Paradise. Not in some false concept called Limbo or Abraham's Bosom.
See where Salvation is and how easy it is to make heaven! Salvation is not by a MASS. It is by your CONFESSION of Fait while you are alive because when you die without Jesus you are dead: End of Story!
Romans 10:8-13. 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Did it say work? Did it say pretend to be pious? Did it say attend church every day? Did it say OBEY the 10 Commandments? Salvation is in your HEART and YOUR MOUTH! Your OWN! Do you even know that that UNRULY Tongue of yours is the TREE OF LIFE? Pr 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof. Do you know that out of his infinite wisdom the Lord God took the most unruly member of your body and therein hid ETERNAL LIFE? Pr 15:4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life. Do you even know that God has abolished the Mosaic Law and the 612 Commandments except for those that are generational? Do you wish to be saved? Do you wish to make heaven? Then do this:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
I will show you shortly why you have absolutely no clue regading the stakes of this issue.Where angels fear to tread......I am afraid that, once again, your dross is showing.
Dear Mr Boh,
Let me repeat myself for whatsoever it is worth.
Satanists – in the order of their Father, the devil – speak in half-gospels; ambiguous and misleading terms so that mankind should get the wrong message and perish. At the Temptation of Jesus, Satan spoke in half-gospels; ambiguous and misleading terms.
Let me show you something:
The Lord God himself says in Leviticus 18:22. Thou shall not practice homosexuality, it is an abominable sin.
A GAY is one who practises HOMOSEXUALITY.And the Lord God in Romans 1:26-32 declares that being GAY is a package wherein the GAY is also..filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: unsociable.See how ridiculous you are - inane too, I might add. How can you possibly be all of the above and be none of the above?
How can you be practising SIN and be accepted by God?The double-speak of the possessed.
As if, we should ask PIGS to come into our parlours and have a seat. You see, God loves MAN but God hates Sin.
SIN is anything that is CONTRARY TO THE WORD OF GOD. And the specific Sin of homosexuality is regimented by the Lord God himself.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Herbert Boh <herbertboh@yahoo.com> wrote:
And the Pope has spoken! Long live the Pope!Boh Herbert
Sent from my iPhoneGreetings to all out there. I must say it beats my understanding to see the vehemence with which some of us advocate evasiveness towards a topic of such social, moral and spiritual relevance. I could not be 'prouder', so to speak, to follow Bobe Ntam's line of reasoning. The Kom tribe may be ridden with poverty, yes, but I am afraid Bobe Ofege and Wanaku sound too condescending to me when they seem to reduce us to some wretched upland savages who should be so carried away by the age-old issues of hunger, shelter and diseases that current issues should not be any of our business. Even if that were to be the case, then as Bobe Ntam logically puts it, addressing this topic does not entail evading any other topics. By the way, is homosexuality really that much of a distant reality to us as Kom people? If you think it may still have to take a few more years to invade the very depths of our fondom, you may be right but what about the millions of our other brothers and sisters living in the diaspora and the poor children (future leaders of Kom) being born there even as we speak. Or should this forum discuss only issues that have to do with my hungry mother or brother who live at Ameng village or Advuk?May we all stay blessedChia Nkwain
From: Wanaku
To: AFOaKOM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: [AFOaKOM] Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'
Bobe,
You are right about quoting (referencing others) when publishing scientific work.
If I talked about "writing our (not 'my') own book",
I am referring to "us" as a community "writing our own book",
which (if my communication is any good at this point) implies
"helping ourselves" as opposed to waiting for some other entity
to do it for us.
I think we slid out of topic again. Probably my fault.
We should focus here on helping our people in solving/resolving
the perennial problems of:
Food, Shelter, Clothing + Literacy.
There is enough in these areas to keep us busy for a very long time.
And this does not prevent anyone from doing diligence to their
personal beliefs.
Thanks for your kind feedback.
iBois+
~wv
--- In AFOaKOM@yahoogroups.com, challow ntam wrote:
>
> Bobe Wanaku,
>
> well not as easy as you think. So many students,at the level of Masters
> even,still can't quote as easily as you think. Find out. Before one
> publishes a scientific work, he does some research on that area , makes
> references to earlier publications, then goes ahead to reveal his research
> and leaves it open,and everything that happened before is a foundation,
> anything after,would only add up to what has been done. If you can't quote
> others,and think you want to write your own book, don't expect someone else
> to read your work,let alone quoting your work. Well if you want to write
> your own book and feel happy about no one quoting you, then good for you.
> After all what is wrong in speaking to yourself?
>
> Ntam
>
>
>
>
> On 29 July 2013 21:31, Wanaku wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bobe Challow,
> >
> > First thing I want to say is: there is (and cannot be) censorship on here
> > simply because it does not make sense.
> > Secondly, the quote you use can be discussed and parsed in several
> > different ways:
> >
> > "Man shall not live on bread alone"
> > Really? I am not sure discussing/parsing this quote will help anyone. So I
> > will let it slide.
> >
> > I will keep saying that our focus here should be (and this is not forcing
> > anyone - just a suggestion)
> > How to keep Kom on the road to a sustainable Food, Shelter, Clothing and
> > Literacy future.
> >
> > It is not an easy thing to do (or talk about).
> > That might explain why few would like to talk about (discuss) those
> > subjects.
> > It is easy to quote from a book - it is written already.
> > What I am suggesting is for us to write our own book.
> > That's a more challenging proposal.
> >
> > iBois+
> > ~wv
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/2013 2:13 PM, challow ntam wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bobe Wanaku,
> >
> > "Man shall not live on bread alone". With food,shelter and the best
> > means of moving from point A to point B,if you do not have a sound mind,in
> > a sound body, (good health), you are not getting anywhere. One of your
> > favorite sayings has always been " If you do not let some one speak,how
> > would you know what is in their minds"? You have realized that this
> > topic.like some others has been around for a while. This is what the people
> > have decided to talk about for now. If I was a betting man, I'd put all I
> > have, that no one has stopped looking for food and shelter because of the
> > discussion we have here, no one has gone to bed hungry,because papa and
> > mama spent time on this topic. No better idea,that could give us more
> > grains and vegetables has been relegated to the background. I respect your
> > opinion about bringing an end to this topic,but I completely disagree with
> > it in any shape and form because no matter how u present it, it looks (to
> > me),like censorship.
> >
> > Ntam
> >
> >
> > On 29 July 2013 20:38, Wanaku wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Bobe Ofege,
> >> I thought the Pope had closed this discussion
> >> but it seems he has just poured kerosene on it.
> >> I am not sure what each person's goal is
> >> spending time/resources on this topic.
> >> I guess there is something about it (more than other topics like Food,
> >> Shelter, Clothing, Literacy)
> >> that makes a human go: "Mmh! I have to say something
> >> about this". And they do.
> >>
> >> Again, if you ask me, in our context (that of Kom)
> >> I think that we have more pressing issues to talk about
> >> and do, than trying to fix an issue that most are
> >> bothered about and few have any real solution for.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, some societies (or contexts) that
> >> have solved(or resolved) some basic human problems,
> >> now have ample time to discuss/debate/argue about
> >> whether a human should behave one way or the other.
> >>
> >> Given that we have so much work to do in our communities
> >> I am not sure we can afford the time to sit around and
> >> wonder what x and y are involved in some deviant behaviour or not.
> >> Again it is like discussing strategies of how to catch
> >> fish, when we do not even have water to drink.
> >>
> >> Kom needs sustainable solutions for the following:
> >> Food, Shelter, Clothing and a robust revival of 100% Literacy for ALL.
> >>
> >> That is how we can move our people from point A to B
> >> whether they pray to Buddha, Jesus, Mohamed or Tangnankoli.
> >> ALL of them need Food, Shelter, Clothing and the ability
> >> of READ/WRITE (in any language they choose: itanghiKom preferably).
> >>
> >> We should discuss about these issues and how to make them become real in
> >> our communities rather than trying to catch fireflies thrown into the
> >> global town square by the western media. It is a smart topic to distract
> >> (and take a lot of productive time) away from issues that are burning at
> >> our feet to solve - burning more than the jiggers in our kids classrooms in
> >> some of our primary schools.
> >>
> >> Bobe Ofege, if you ask me I'd say (again in our context), the best way to
> >> preach (gospel, koran, bhagavad gita etc) is to DO. We need more doing on
> >> the ground for our people than all the alleluia/amen/lord this lord
> >> that/prophet here prohet there etc ... But then I may be wrong because some
> >> humans - at given stages in their lives - might need a given style of
> >> preaching to save themselves (from themselves). So like I said here, it is
> >> just my opinion. The trick for every preacher is to find those who can
> >> listen (not just those who have ears).
> >>
> >> Any preacher who has solutions for my people (Kom), I am all ears.
> >> Anything else is a waste of valuable time. Again, just my opinion.
> >>
> >> iBois+
> >> ~wv
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In AFOaKOM@yahoogroups.com, Ofege Ntemfac wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Wanaku,
> >> > I just made this Post to Chief Taku.
> >> > You may find it stimulating
> >> >
> >> > The Chief,
> >> > The issue cannot be Judging PEOPLE because Romans 2 and Romans 14
> >> > specifically proscribe the Christian from JUDGING ANYONE.
> >> > All have sinned and come short of the GLORY OF GOD.
> >> > The issue is this bewildering celebration of WHAT GOD condemns so much
> >> > so that a man told me in these set of chambers that THE WORLD WILL NOT
> >> > BE RULED BY THE BIBLE!
> >> > The issue is the flouting of an abominable choice, a practice, a
> >> > custom into our faces!
> >> > As if, we should ask PIGS to come into our parlours and have a seat.
> >> > You see, God loves MAN but God hates Sin.
> >> > SIN is anything that is CONTRARY TO THE WORD OF GOD.
> >> > And the specific Sin of homosexuality is regimented by the Lord God
> >> > himself. See Romans 1.
> >> > Also, the Word of God on the TOPIC IS VERY PRECISE; Leviticus 18:22.
> >> > Thou shall not practice homosexuality, it is an abominable SIN.
> >> > I have been greatly inspired by this super sermon from one of my
> >> > pastors, Bishop TD Jakes: Bad Boys and Girls (which we all are) and
> >> > the God who loves them.
> >> > God loves Man but he hates SIN.
> >> > And the Lord, God especially delights in the Man or WOMAN who repents
> >> from SIN.
> >> > Not enjoy SIN!
> >> > Not PROMOTE SIN!
> >> > NOT PROPAGATE SIN
> >> > Not so much enjoy SIN that they demand of MANKIND that we celebrated
> >> > their deviant lifestyle with them.
> >> > Whereas this SIN pollutes the land and hence affects us directly.
> >> > Do you know that if you see your brother in Sin and you do nothing to
> >> > show him his wrong ways, you are also guilty?
> >> > The Lord GOD..FORGAVE US…our sins LONG AGO but if we continue to SIN
> >> > and delight in sin.
> >> > See the VERDICT, and WHY SIN CANNOT and should not be celebrated.
> >> > Hebrews 10:26-29. New King James Version (NKJV)
> >> > The Just Live by Faith
> >> > 26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the
> >> > truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain
> >> > fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will
> >> > devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies
> >> > without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how
> >> > much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who
> >> > has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the
> >> > covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the
> >> > Spirit of grace?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 7/29/13, Wanaku wrote:
> >> > > Will this end the discussion on related subjects?
> >> > > The media and human curiosity will not let it stop
> >> > > So some media people ask the Pope questions about so-called "gays":
> >> > >
> >> > > Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'
> >> > > Excerpt:
> >> > > ""If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will,
> >> who
> >> > > am I to judge?""
> >> > > Comment/Note:
> >> > > Pope Francis is a Jesuit Pope
> >> > > "The Jesuits encourage toleration for other religions, teach other
> >> > > theology in their institutions, and also believe in free education for
> >> > > all."
> >> > > Source:
> >> > >
> >> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/29/pope-francis-on-gays-who-am-i-to-judge/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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