RE: [MTC Global] RE: India a view point

Dear Prof. Vemuganti and all Members,

Greetings!

I endorse Prof. Vemuganti's  positive outlook and views........however, if I am a team leader, I would take the critics and cynics along with me; many a times they also help to keep our ears and eyes close to ground realities!

He has suggested three drastic changes that is required; I would also request him to help us understand the suggestive  implementation plan for them.

kind regards,

P.S.Raychaudhuri

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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 01:12:29 +0530
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] RE: India a view point
From: vemugantiramesh@gmail.com
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com

Ms Irmel V. Marla

Please read the mail by Prof Tarun Das who replied to my mail , as follows.

Very balanced view on Incredible India. I agree with Prof. Ramesh Vemuganti. I have also held the views at some other place that "Many of the economic reforms initiated in July 1991 remain unfinished due to political economy constraints. If these reforms in land, labor, capital markets, energy sector, education, civil services, governance, municipalities and corporations are brought to their logical ends, then India would emerge as one of the most favorable destination and a land of immense opportunities for all. India is a miracle waiting to happen. All foreign investors and development partners are welcome to participate in that exciting journey of India's development process over the next two decades.

All the parameters you mentioned in your mail registered a significant growth, despite the fact, I repeat, despite the fact that , more than one third of Indians were BPL. That number has come down substantially, of late, will come down more & all efforts are in that direction.

Three drastic changes are required - a more accountable & people centric Govt at Centre & States, Two, Change in politicians focus on growth & development, not minting money. Their greed & thinking, to allow people BPL to languish for decades, must change. Three, India is replete with intellectual derelicts, who are a major factor in stunting our progress. They use their intellect for destructive purpose - criticism, cynicism, deep analysis of various indices, totally unasked for, discouraging others from doing anything, including talking. Instead, adopt a village, choose one area, do some contribution There are several areas to start off- just do it. or else, they must go out of the system.

In any case, " One man with courage is a majority" - Thomas Jefferson will always happen.

regards

Ramesh Vemuganti

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:21 PM, <Imimarla@aol.com> wrote:

Dear Shri Vemuganti,

I have to admit that I am wondering: what exactly you want to convey? That "The growth & success story India has scripted is beyond the wildest imagination..." (quote from your text)? Yes, nobody would have thought that poverty has increased and is still continuing to increase after more than 6 decades of Independence and "success stories". Also, your plan to "make India a a Super power by 2025.," is well & good but, in the meantime, who will feed and clothe and educate the masses below the poverty line? They cannot wait till your dreamy 'superpower India' descends on them - and all will live happily ever after. Quite a bit cynical, your attitude, it seems to me.

Besides: learning from real good performers wouldn't do harm, na?

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In a message dated 29-11-2013 12:39:04 India Standard Time, vemugantiramesh@gmail.com writes:

Dear Colleagues                                                                                 29th November, 2013

I am quite delighted to start sending mails after a gap.

Change the changeable, accept the unchangeable, and remove yourself from the unacceptable. -Denis WaitleyThis article is interesting from German perspective, not from Indian"s. Firstly, let us all resolve one thing. No European or South American or African nation must only compare with only one state in India - now with the entire country. In terms of population, homogenity, spread, area, language, culture, infra, Garmany must compare with one of our jewels - say Gujarat or Mahrashtra or Tamilnadu.. If they do not want to do business with India, it is their loss & not ours.

At a time when President Obama is doing his best to appease Indians & nurture a smooth relationship with India, David Cameroon is keen to enter into several tieups with India, Australia is bonding with us on many fronts, plethora of fast growing economies are making a bee line towards India for our brains, skills, knowledge, infrastructure, goods, services, people, heritage, spirituality, yoga, Krishna consciousness, meditative practices, holistic approach - Does one article matter. 

We must take pride in the fact that along with China, we are an emerging superpower despite the fact that around 35 crores, almost a third, of our people are BPL.. 

What India was in 1947 & what it is today, -a saga of spectacular achievements in many fields, a transformation, a sea change?  Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit Nehru, Sardar Patel or Netaji would have been aghast & spellbound with the progress India has made. The growth & success story India has scripted is beyond the wildest imagination of these great leaders & leaders across all major economies, including Germany.

Now, we as intellectuals, not merely educated, must think SOLUTIONS for all our problems, with a 360 degree disposition . We need to hit back all such allegations.  Parallely, we need to aply pressure on our planners & economist to make our domestic economy stronger & make it independent.

We shall fight the corrupt, evil minded & selfish politicians & throw them out in next elections.  We will not blame, comment, criticize, compare or paint a poor picture of India, under all circumstances in any forum, meeting, seminar, organization, association,,,,,,,,,anywhere in the Globe.
Let us change, means, what ? Change our Attitude first, then a change in Approach next, followed by Assertiveness & reinforcing our Ambition to make India a a Super power by 2025.,

No matter how many mistakes you make or how slow you progress, you are still way ahead of everyone who isn't trying.

regards

Ramesh Vemuganti

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM, kiran paranjpe <kdparanjpe@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir, A truly ugly picture is painted by the western media especially the
European Media. My question is if India is that bad, then why do business with
India? In fact doing business with such a country is to get infected with the
contagion of unethical practices. Such reporting, shades of the " gutter
inspector's report" is cynical in nature. Such reporting is meant for the
consumption of us Indians into reinforcing the familiar stereo types as belonging
to an inferior and decadent civilization. It important to realize that Indian
democracy has yet to find its real soul. I do not think that anywhere on the globe
or in past history has such an experiment been conducted as in our country.
We have to discover what a democracy can do to govern a huge landmass with a
diversity that one will not find anywhere. In the life a civilization, we are yet
to evolve our systems of governance that is responsive to the people and protect
its interests.
Old values from our troubled past are slowly turning useless. There is friction
and even violence and it is true that our leaders are completely clueless. The
British gave us the model of governance that is itself in disrepair ( beyond
repair). Some may even suggest anarchy and the powerlessness of the law
enforcement machinery.There is a silent churning and new elites are forming and
clashing with the old.
It is easy for our elites to turn cynical , for the thinking people it is easy to
despair, but this will not get us anywhere. In the final analysis it boils down to
what we as individuals can do by way of discharging our responsibility and perform
our duties fearlessly and diligently and not caring a damn.
Best Regards,
K.Paranjpe

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 20:41:36 +0530 wrote
> This is not a system failure. Afterall system is designed by the man.System can
only prevent the opportunity but not the intentionof the people to do undesirable

things. When man does not want to follow the system which he hinself has designed
these things happen . It is really a very sad state of affairs that the judiciary
has to remind the Govt quite often that it is the responsibility of the Govt to
exercise good governance.Policy paralysis,
indifference to people's problems, rampant corruption and absolute lack of
accountability of the political system have all contributed to this pathetic
situation. On top of all these things our country is lacking leadership and
credibility.
As a banker and economist I used to respect Dr.Manmohan Singh . Now I have
completely lost all hopes . PM has position but no power ( the power is defused by
players behind the scenes, who are conducting shadow government through remote
control) nor is he able to exercise influence in a positive way. The country is
currently going through a leadership crisis and lack of value systems.
The judiciary has done its job by enforcing NOTA ( people's right to reject the
candicates in election )and banning convicts from contesting in the elections. The
ball is now in people's court. It is not only our fundamental right to vote but
our duty towards the country to elect the right people. When all of us feel this
responsibility and exercise our votes in the right manner, then we can bring a
change in the system and accountability of the Govt to the people.We have to be
hopeful to see the light at the end of the tunnel ,though the tunnel may be too
long and keep working towards it by motivating the people around us.
With
regards,
B.N.V.Parthasarathi.
09885064644.


On Thursday, 28 November 2013 1:56 PM, Tarun Das

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#yiv7881851735 The picture of today's India as depicted by Professor Virendra Goel
is really frightening.I am completely lost. Can't all of us together repair this
systems's failure?Dr. Tarun DasFrom: goel.virendra@gmail.comTo:
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#yiv7881851735 Self-centered narcissist and 'For Sale' politician, incompetent and

manipulative bureaucracy, insensitive government employees, unscrupulous business,
Monstrous police, helpless judiciary, deceptive social and religious leaders,
caged military, paramilitary forces and investigating agencies, fleecing banking,
taxation and financial system, privileged media and intellectual class, frustrated
teaching community, ignorant - irresponsible – silent spectator – sufferer citizen
and corruption, lack of transparency and no accountability as common factors –
that is how I would like to define today's India.RegardsVirendra GoelFrom:
join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tarun

DasSent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:19 AMTo: Benita Sharma; MTC Global; A N

Bhattacharya; Ajay Roychoudhury; Amitendu Palit; Anand P Gupta; Anand Pandit; Anil
Bisen; Bhattacharya, Prof. B. B.; Bibek Debroy; D. Bandopadhyay; kanwaljit oberoi;
N L Ahuja; Pradeep Chakrabarty; Radhabinod Barman; Raj Agrawal; Rajaram Dasgupta;
Sapna Popli; Sujit
Sengupta; Sukumar Nandi; Swaraj K Nath; Bijoy R; Bijoy Raychaudhury; Brahm Nath
Puri; Hira Sadhak; Hiren Sarkar; Ajay Kumar; Amitabha Mukherjee, WB; Arindam Roy;
Arnab Maity; Arvind Virmani ED, IMF; Roshan Sahay; Sanjay Pradhan; Shyamlendu Pal;

Sudarshan GooptuSubject: [MTC Global] RE: India a view pointAn interesting article

on the saddest state of socio-economic-political affairs in India today. The

author is former Europe Director, CII and lives in Cologne, Germany.The author
blames the government for this saddest state of affairs.But what about his own
masters- the Corporate India?If they do not patronage, how can the government
survive?Dr. Tarun DasWorld Bank Technical Adviser (Public Debt Management and
Policy)Deepening MTBF and Strengthening Financial Accountability ProjectMinistry

of Finance, Government of Bangladesh, 20th Floor, 6th Building, Bangladesh

Secretariat, Dhaka.Website: www.spemp.com/ www.mof.gov.bd/dmtbfFrom:
sharma.benita@gmail.comTo: sharma.benita@gmail.comSubject: FW: India a view
pointDate: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:08:45 +0530From: ritu datta

[mailto:ritudatta5@yahoo.com] Sent: 27 November 2013 20:50To: RITU DATTA; RITU

DATTASubject: India a view pointjust pathetic!! can only rectify it with resolve
&time tested indian values!!! Subject: India a view point The German press has
savaged India's misgovernance. MOHAN MURTIThe Brussels-based European Commission

Standing Committee on Global Foreign Direct Investments last week listed the top
20
destinations the EU 27 will target for the next five years. Sadly, but for well-

known reasons, India does not figure in the list.Stocks of European Union direct

investments to the rest of the world amounted to €5.6 trillion at the end of 2012
and the EU continues to have a fixation with China. As for India, senior EU
officials noted with quite a bit of scepticism: "India is probably getting there,

but not quite arrived".An editorial in the highly circulated German

national newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine screamed:"India has never had it so
bad. Stealing in government has never been this brazen. Government officials are
now so audacious in their corrupt practices that they do not give a damn about who
is watching"."Supreme Court directives are routinely flouted. Crime rates are up
and security of life including women's safety, which is the first responsibility
of every government, is at its lowest ebb. India must then be more than qualified
to be called a failed state."In the Manager magazine, one of Germany's leading
glossy business journals, an article said: "Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh
has a natural inclination to be a follower, not a leader. "DESPAIR AND

HOPELESSNESSThe article states, "India is a country where merit and integrity have

no value and the country continues to sink beneath the suffocating weight of
mediocrity and unrestrained, rampant greed. The majority of citizens feel excluded
and disrespected at all levels of their daily lives. The youth of the country that
make majority of the populace clearly feel helpless and many are pushed to take to
misdemeanour and

crime."FAILURE OF GOVERNANCEDer Spiegel wrotein an edit article recently: "While

the main functions of the parliament are to make laws and hold the executive
accountable through oversight, Indian lawmakers make very few laws, pass
incompetent motions and engage in rampant disruption of the proceedings."The
German business newspaper Handelsblatt wrote: "For India, it seems clear that the
hope of becoming one of the best twenty economies in the world will only remain a
daydream. Corruption is the bane of the society. The Government knows this and the
crusade against corruption is being handled with kid gloves."(The author is former

Europe Director, CII, and lives in Cologne, Germany.)(This article was published
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