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Sunday, November 24, 2013

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Dear Professors and Academic Luminaries

I strongly agree with the comment about the present condition of Management and Engineering Education in India raised by all. As everyone have stated that the most institutions have faculty but not sound enough to handle the subject. I have seen in some places, faculty members have University ranks and gold medals. Truly speaking when I had the chance of meeting students learning in different institutions commented that their teachers supply with them handouts prepared by someone at a cheaper price. Secondly when they teach them they get confused by their teachers when they refer the text books. 

In some Universities, the syllabus are scrap and doesn't have any up-to-date  content in their syllabus. Whether if you all believe it or not, in a University, Marketing Research subject has been removed from the electives for students specializing in Marketing. Similarly in statistics, simple contents are presented,  leaving the tough one which is mostly needed in corporate world. But the pathetic situation is that except a few most of them are incapable of handling the classes. 

At the present scenario, both Management and Engineering Educational institutions need to have a strong nexus with Industry and Industry professionals to enrich their community rather in filling their Wallets. 

Some of the Management institutions in order to attract the students to join in their institutions usually have the practice of hosting glamour shows by bringing the Cine Stars every year. These kinds of shows end up with clash and group attack and doesn't result in any knowledge enrichment.  

What we need to ensure that the budding managers have to built up with a strong base of knowledge, skill sets, attitude and rich in self confidence.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Krishna K. Havaldar Havaldar <krishnahavaldar31@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,

Greetings for the day.

One way to make a curriculum relevant is to form a team for each subject consisting of four or six persons. Each team should have equal nos. of professionals with academic and industry backgrounds. Academic professionals in the team should have taught the particular subject for at least five years and industry professionals should have relevant industry experience in the function or the specific subject at senior level for at least five years. One of the academic persons should prepare a draft of the curriculum for a particular subject and circulate the same to other team members, who should be given adequate time to respond with their suggestions, copies of which should be marked to all the other members.  Thereafter, a meeting should be called in which all the team members would discuss and finalize the curriculum. This process, which would ensure relevance from academic and industry view points, should be repeated for all the subjects.

Krishna K. Havaldar,
Professor, Alliance Business School,
Bangalore.


On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
More or less the observations and experience are the facts on Indian soil.
1.
Barring private industrial sector, other sectors have the attitude less work for
compensation.
2.
This is so because of several reasons: Indian mentality, if no body supervising
me skip the work, avoid it, I will work only if I am personally monetarily
benefited, lac of integrity and character. The countries who possess relatively
high standard of integrity, honesty, they are the winners.
3.
In-spite of the statutory provisions, we hardly go for unbiased recruitment,
academic merit is secondary, there is no process and performance management and
academic audit, performance appraisal in institutes/universities.
4.
Like other Sectors education sector is much behind the those in advanced
countries.
5.
We are missing team work, nation making spirit.
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 06:26:31 +0530 wrote

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Greetings for the Day,

It is nice to see the lucrative admission advertisement of various B-schools /
Management institutes across the country. Majority of those B-schools formed as
a part of Business Expansion model but not keeping view of developing Corporate
Leader. The interesting fact: "25% of B-schools run by Principal / Director In-
charge as Cost cutting formula, due to non-availability of 100% students or
running institutes with vacate seats". Furthermore, it is a common practice in
MBA/Engineering/Pharmacy/MCA institutes to keep minimum faculties on regular
basis. Majority of the institutes violet to maintain the student-faculty ratio
i.e. 15:1. The institutes authorities keep the 15:1 norms only in AICTE website
or in statutory register. Around 40% of private institutes follow the salary for
their teaching staff on Consolidated basis in-spite of well earning. Recruitment
of faculty members usually happens based on lowest quoted salary or in case of
strong recommendation.


Therefore, it will be difficult to find out the strength/actual merit of any B-
school. We always talk on Center for Excellent model in Seminar / Conference /
Faculty Development programme but in reality how many of private institutions
follows????/ As a result, our quality of education is declining compare to other
emerging countries even after 66 years of independence.


Can we really change this scenario???? Otherwise, we will continue for Debate
till next century.


This is my personal opinion. I am sharing the facts which I have seen in my 21
years of professional career in any part of India. Yes, this is the current
trend of our country in Management (Higher) Education.......


With Regards,  
Prof. (Dr.) R. S. Ghosh,

    M. Pharm, MBA, PhD.      Professor and Dean,
Apollo Group of Institutions,           PhD. Supervisor,Logistics and Supply
Chain Management,
                President, Supply Chain Management Development Council,
Cell: + 91 9820169896, 7354101661



On 20 November 2013 09:33, Dattaprasanna Marathe wrote:

Many B schools have a decent syllabus. But it is taught be inefficient faculty.B
schools have to recruit certain no of faculty members as a requirement by AICTE.
Now this body has become de funct but government will soon revitalise it by
forming a new body.Due to this condition whoever is on muster is required to
teach any subject commonly in first year.I have followed a way of teaching
subjects in my domain area i.e. quantitative applications in all majors.Secondly
student mentality has changed drastically due to high cost of education.He joins
a programme  with intention to get a good job & not to learn anything.B school
experts should advise stake holders to overcome this problem.

Thanks & regards  

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta
wrote:


Many B-schools in India have [R]igorous curriculum but not [R]elevant. It is
important to have multi-disciplinary holistic curriculum before it becomes
irrelevant to global corporate houses. This is one area which needs wide
deliberations………….

 Educate, Empower, Elevate

Prof. Bholanath DuttaFounder, Convener & President






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