Being a leader especially president is leading both those who support and those who oppose you. Promoting a common vision, homosexuals and lesbians etc
If you drink will you be president of those who don't drink?
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PLEASE, PRAY CAMEROON DOES NOT ACCEPT THIS!
GOD CREATED MAN AND WOMAN. NOT MAN & MAN OR WOMAN & WOMAN! AN ABOMINATION!!!
THE ANUS IS FOR SHIT!
--- On Fri, 12/7/12, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>
Subject: Comfortable? Paul Ayah - MAURICE KAMTO : SOUTIEN L'HOMOSEXUATE
To: Camreview@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>, "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>, "CAMNETWORK" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 8:03 AMHow comfortable?
On 12/2/12, Vic Katte <vickatte@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello Mr Paul Ayah,
>
> I must say that I am particularly shocked that as a potential statesman you
> still hold some of the most benighted views regard homosexuality, even going
> to the extraordinary attempt to equating it with animals sex. It seems to me
> that you have either not spend any time to really think about the subject,
> guided solely ingrained traditional prejudices, or you have been led up the
> wrong epistemic path through flawed thinking or irrational indoctrination.
>
> Your very first statement ("L'hommosexualité est contre la nature.") reveals
> just how ill-informed or educated you are. If we take nature to be the
> entirety of reality, then anything everything that happens within this
> reality is consistent with nature. Thus nothing can ever be said to be
> "against nature" as everything with reality is part of nature. Thus eating
> meat, killing once father, having sex with animals, eat human flesh, being
> in love with your husband/wife, feeding the poor, climbing mountains,
> thousands dying in a natural disaster, having sex with ten people at the
> same time, drinking human blood, etc, etc. All of these and in fact,
> everything you can every think of is part of the natural realm. Nothing, but
> nothing within reality can ever be unnatural or against nature. So to impugn
> homosexuality on the grounds that it is unnatural or against nature is to
> commit a gross intellectual fallacy, and obviously I need not remind you of
> the
> dangers of building public policy of falsehoods.
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> Now, to say that everything is natural is a far cry from saying that is it
> desirable or to be sought after. Thus, having sex with animals, while
> natural is undesirable, not least because animals cannot give their consent
> to the act, thus making it immoral. Killing other humans, while natural, is
> ill-advised, undesirable and immoral because such acts deprive others of
> their right to life.
>
> Now, I have used the word "moral"/"immoral" above, but what do I need by it
> and should morality be the guiding principle by which we lead our lives? By
> morality, I mean a collective consensus derived by deliberation and
> discussion about what makes humankind lead a flourishing existence without
> infringing on the needs and rights of our fellow humans.
>
> On the above definition, the homosexuals who engage in their acts of love
> towards their partners in a consensual and is a position to give full
> unforced consent is not engaging in an immoral act. If this is too hard for
> you to understand and or digest, simply ask yourself the following question.
> When two or more homosexuals, in the privacy of their rooms, engage in
> consensual homosexual acts, in what way does this act hurt or harm anyone or
> society? If it does not harm or hurt anyone or society, in what way can it
> be said to be immoral?
>
> Or are you simply grossed out by imagining the act, say of a man penetrating
> another man through their anus? If this is your problem, be informed that
> many millions of heterosexual couples perform anal sex as part of their
> standard sexual expression. Would you like to put a bar against this act as
> well, or is anal sex only allowed in the context of a married heterosexual
> monogamous union.
>
> Hope the above helps you sort out your thinking and move to the side of
> freedom and liberty.
>
>
> Vic Katte
>>"Easy is the road that leads to benightedness, superstitions and
>> irrationalism". Victor Katte
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>>"The way to deal with superstition is not to be polite to it, but to tackle
>> it with all arms, and so rout it, cripple it, and make it forever infamous
>> and ridiculous. Is it, perchance, cherished by persons who should know
>> better? Then their folly should be brought out into the light of day, and
>> exhibited there in all its hideousness until they flee from it, hiding
>> their heads in shame.
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>>True enough, even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He
>> has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases,
>> provided only he does not try to inflict them upon other men by force. He
>> has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out
>> of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he
>> has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do
>> not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred.
>> He has no right to preach them without challenge." Mencken
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>>Emancipate yourself from mental slavery - none but yourself can free your
>> mind.
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>>"Most people would rather die than think. And most people do" Bertrand
>> Russell.
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>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5FcCQ8BIg
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>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4YrvDslraw&NR=1
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>
> ________________________________
> From: PAP Communications Team <presidentayah@gmail.com>
> To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012, 22:45
> Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] MAURICE KAMTO : SOUTIEN L'HOMOSEXUATE
>
> L'hommosexualité est contre la nature. L'occident et ses représentants
> africains phantomes doivent nous présenter la troisieme partie de la
> Bible; car l'Occident nous a présenté les deux parties de la Bible
> pour justifier la condamnation de la poligamie. Or la poligamie n'est
> pas contre la nature.
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> Ce n'est pas parcequ'Obama s'est identifié avec l'hommosexualité pour
> pouvoir gagner élection que nous africains purs devons suivre ses pas.
> En s'attribuant le monopole du raisonnement rationnel l''hommel doit
> se placer au dessus de l'animal sauvage. Si un coq s'abstient de
> monter sur un coq, et la poule sur une poule, la raison doit nous
> obliger a nous comporter mieux.
>
> C'est vraiment dommage que l'homme se dit croyant alors meme qu'il
> traite son createur avec tant de mépris. Il est vrai que nous parlons
> aujourd'hui de village global. Mais n'oublions pas que Dieu est
> immuable a l'égad de tous! Y compris l'homme politique! Il est
> regrettable de penser autrement!
>
> Quel exemple!
>
> AYAH Paul ABINE
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> On 12/2/12, Sismondi Barlev Bidjocka <sismondi2@yahoo.fr> wrote:
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>> KAMTO : SOUTIEN L'HOMOSEXUATE
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>> http://rjcpatriote.centerblog.net/696-maurice-kamto-soutien-homosexualite
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>> Le président du MRC était sur le plateau de Canal 2 ce
>> soir, et il a dit qu'il faut laisser les gens qui ont des tendances
>> naturelles…Monsieur
>> Kamto vous êtes seul dans votre film, et la jeunesse vous dit NON !!
>> Sismondi Barlev Bidjocka
>> Journaliste Éditorialiste Écrivain
>> Porte-Parole de la jeunesse Camerounaise
>> Tél : 00 237 77 85 89 19
>> Dom: 00 237 22 17 70 89
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> "I profoundly believe all Cameroonians will some day speak the same
> language, sing the same songs, dance to the same rhythm, dine and wine at
> the same table. When the rich shall cater for the poor and the strong shall
> help the weak, the law shall be supreme, justice and peace shall forever
> reign, if we are honest and believe we can get there. God bless
> Cameroon."Hon. AYAH Paul ABINE, Cameroon 2011 Presidential Candidate and
> PAP National Secretary General.
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