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Wednesday, July 30, 2014

Re: [cameroon_politics] Re: [panafricanistforum] THIS IS COMMING IN RIGHT NOW

Dear ALL,
The problem here has three dimensions:
a) Jerusalem,
b) Borders,
c)Security, and,
d) Refugees
Israel has ignored the plight of the Palestinians to enjoy their right to all these. 
QUESTION: Is the world safer when Israel carpet-bombs Hamas to disperse and target Israel and its backers around the world or when Palestinians are secured in their homeland?
Afterall, Palestine has its aboriginal population that was dispossessed of their land following the holocaust in Germany. The Palestinians were neither the architects nor perpetrators of the holocaust. 
Was it therefore just for the British to parcel out Palestinian land to the fleeing Jews in the name of the Balfour Declaration of 1917?
Should the world become awash with Hamas terrorists, who will be safe?
Firepower unleashed on a people in the name of war is an acceptance of defeat.
Peace is always wiser than war.
The Western media armada may be wielded in support of Israel. 
But, for how long will Israeli children function as humans always looking over their shoulders if Jihadists are around?
It is needless repeating that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the midwife of transnational terrorism.
The Gaza strip is the world's biggest prison and the prisoners risk breaking out and infesting the world with their pent-up frustrations through plane highjackings and murderous terrorism.
Let us stop blaming the victim.
Sitting and watching Israel destroy Gaza is international disaster magnified by postponement.
Tatah  Mentan
 
Human Community=Human Communication=Human Productivity


I was led to understand the value of my anger and my desire to speak out, through these words from Mary Catherine Hilkert, a Dominican theologian. She wrote in Speaking with Authority: Catherine of Siena and the Voices of Women Today:
"Sometimes the words of protest are the only words we can speak clearly in the face of complex forces of evil woven into the fabric of our lives and world. We cannot always see or name the way forward. Further, no liberation front or political or social program can be identified with the reign of God. But even the cry of protest is a word of grace that moves us to resistance and to searching for another way. The beginning of finding a new path is speaking the truth of what clearly is not God's will for human life …."


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:26 PM, "Mishe Fon mishefon@yahoo.com [cameroon_politics]" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Massa "Sincere Lawyer"
Yours here below is honestly very "Insincere Lawyering". The balance of "Fire Power" between the American backed "Jews" and the amateur Hamas "Street Fighters" is completely unequal. In only 16 days of fighting, more than 2200 Palestinians have been killed (including innocent children); buildings demolished, cities razed to rubble, UN humanitarian posts bombarded...while less than 15 "Jews" have been killed (almost all Military personnel). Massa Sincere Lawyer; what in your opinion do you expect the Hamas people to do? In my humble opinion, the Palestinians should without pre-conditions recognize the existence of the State of Israel with defined internationally recognized boundaries.
Israel on its part has no right to block access to the Palestinians of basic supplies thereby rendering their territory ungovernable. Israel should equally without conditions recognize the Palestinian State.
America is incapable of resolving this problem because of their "Natural" inclination into supporting Israel...No Matter What. This is a very wrong approach that has left millions dead for the past almost 70 years and it is simply very ridiculous and shameful.
Mishe Fon

From: Sincerelawyer via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [panafricanistforum] THIS IS COMMING IN RIGHT NOW

I hate to participate in this type of talk. Why does HAMAS not bring its army out to fight? Why are they fighting within the population? They are the ones using the ordinary people as shields and causing the deaths of the common people. Let their army come out and face Israel. I do not support Israel but when you have people shooting at your population with rockets, what do you want Israel to do? HAMAS is not a freedom fighting group. Why do they refuse to recognize Israel as a state? HAMAS must be held responsible for the deaths of their people.
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2014 7:33:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, atsoah@gmail.com writes:
Obama called HAMAS a terrorist organization this is not funny now.
Can Obama tell me who a freedom fighter is and a terrorist?
Does HAMAS occupied an inch of Isreali land?
Does HAMAS have F16 Fighter Jets and Iriondom? Does HAMAS have tanks and Drones like the ones which Obama had given to Isreal?
Is America also giving HAMAS three Billion every year as they are doing with those terrorist called Jews?As from 1948 till date how many millions of Palistinians have been killed by those terrorist called Jews cam someone help tell me. 
Let us go by this figure as from 1948 each year that goes by Isreal must have killed at least 20000 Palistinians.
If you times this by 70 and more years how many millions of Palistinians are you going to come up with?
Obama and the American Conressmen and women that are supporting those terrorist who called themselves theare all defendants of liberty are all teroorist.
So they and those trerrost In Parlestine who called themselve Jews are all terrorist and sons and daughters of the beast.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:


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Date: Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:59 AM
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Godfrey Tindimwebwa.
 
Has Israel actually arrested any Hamas fighter among these children? Has Israel actually captured any Hamas weapons in these refugee camps? Thirdly and I think I stated this somewhere before, why is It criminal to discuss this war when the Israeli citizen and soldiers of IDF are publicly and on many times in many sources, opposing murdering children, why can't we discuss this war,  or go after it in non-Israeli forums? My next question, from yesterday and today, Israel has taken a concerted effort to blow up every single fuel storage in Palestine, is Hamas hiding weapons inside the fuel tanks filled with fuel? And my last question now that I do not want to tire you, why is Egypt closing its boarder, has Hamas been blowing up Cairo too?
 
Thank you.
 
EM
On the 49th Parallel          
 
                    Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
                    Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko"
 
 
Good morning EM and everybody on the forum,
It is sad to see people dying senselessly like this in refugee camps, but I think we should apportion blame to where it belongs. To me, HAMAS does not value the lives of the people it is pretending to be leading and advocating for. HAMAS is simply the problem.
Imagine a battle field for once; where you troops are located will be the location from which you launch attacks on your enemy, isn't it. So if the enemy is to retariarate, he will locate the source of attack to eliminate it. Unfortunately for HAMAS, instead uses civilians! At the same time they do not want to stop launching rockets into Israel! Israel has no alternative.
For the third time, the UN has protested use of her facilities, schools and refugee holding centers , for stashing of weapon by HAMAS! What other evidence does the world need to prove who the aggressor is.
I am sure that if HAMAS stopped aggression towards Israel, Israel would have no reason to impose the blockade on Gaza. The choice is theirs.
Cheers!
Geoffrey
 
 
Friends
 
For the second time, Israel has this morning attacked a building  holding Palestinian refugees. We have many dead including women and children that had taken shelter into this camp. The numbers we are getting so far nineteen dead and ninety injured.  As I post these numbers I need to clarify that normally both sides post numbers in Favour of their side. Israelis cut numbers short and Palestinians inflate them. The truth always lays in the middle of the numbers from both side. The numbers we are posting tonight have been stated by The Israeli side, we are having a problem getting numbers from The Palestine side. But the Israeli spokeswoman has said and I quote "This might not look good on us" And you can interpreted that to whatever you understand it to mean. One can only hope that by the break of the day and as more sources get informed, we will get a better picture of what has exactly happened here but we have some massive deaths in Palestine.
 
Good morning from this side.
 
EM
On the 49th Parallel          
 
                    Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
                    Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko"
 
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