Re: [MTC Global] [Weekend Big Debate- I] Women can't have it all

Dear All

If you read the statement of Ms Nooyi, she talked about gender biases (not biases actually but predefined role come along with accepting the responsibility of marriage)  at her home where her mother asked her to go and fetch milk in the midnight and her guilt towards her motherhood.  Its a very sensitive issue and almost all working mothers feel it at some point or the other. Although parenting is not easy and what so ever you are, no one can claim to be perfect parent still for working mothers its really painful when they think they haven't completely enjoyed the growing of their kids atleast for me this is the case. It is not about working or not working for a woman but understanding self and setting the priorities in life. In todays materialistic world when we have so much money and exposure also to various things of pleasure, I think the responsibility of rearing the children and guiding them at every stage is much higher.   

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Deblina Saha <deblinasaha@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected ALL

This is with reference to Prof Vjendra Kumar's data....... i dont know how many of our generation people had working mothers.....I didnt have....so as per the data do we  all (whose mothers were non working ) and our mothers have low self esteem????

Why do we need to be so judgmental about working and non working women?? As Dr Viji Rakesh, rightly mentioned depending on the circumstances many woman continue to work and many woman cannot, so we donot know one's priority n without knowing that I dont think we should be having any opinions just on the basis of some data.

Thanks & Regards

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Usha Gowri <usha.gowri@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting,

In the first place why are we slotting ourselves-the women are always  sister,wive,mother .....Why arent women just the other ordinary half of the human race?

Of course we managed as we have for a million years-when the men went to war, to hunt ,when they ran away in search of adventure-women managed and they managed in some really  trying times very beautifully.

For me the issue is-are we trying to compete with men? NO. Not worth it really

Whatwe want is  to be allowed to be ourselves ,to make our choices,to be allowed to think rationally ( of course we are allowed to choose between brinjal and cauliflower but no we arent allowed ...)...not to be type cast-not to be compared to Sita or someone.I want to be myself ,live right and joyously without fitting into anyones concept of who I as a woman should be.

I was and am very fortunate in having men who taught me  that!! and a mother who lived it and hence all these are written in gratitude to people who in the  last hundred years and more  ,in my family got the men to treat the women  like treasures:-))) That is why in the Indian language the woman was called Shrimathi and the man only Shri.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:16 PM, viji_rajesh@hotmail.com <viji_rajesh@hotmail.com> wrote:

Esteemed colleagues, 

I would liked to differ from the views of Prof Vijendra kumar. Women have a very crucial role to play whether working or not. Women in nuclear families have more work to do as there is nobody to share work or emotions.  Women as a mother always care for their children. Of course women who have support from their family,  husband, parents or inlaws move forward in their career as well since they are confident that things at home are taken care of. Even at work front they have to prove themselves just like a man there is no gender bias nowadays.  You succeed if you perform. As a wife, mother,  daughter,  sister women have lot more to balance especially where emotions are involved. No time for serials or gossip.

Regards

Dr.  Viji Rajesh

Prof and Head

Department of management sciences

S.A. ENGINEERING COLLEGE

Chennai -77

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From: Swapna Dogiparthy

Date:04/07/2014 11:28 (GMT+05:30)

To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [MTC Global] [Weekend Big Debate- I] Women can't have it all

Respected all,

 I regret to the opinion given by Prof.Vijendra Kumar. Few points mentioned by you it absolutely wrong.

1. watching TV serials

2.Less work in nuclear family.

May be Indra Nooyi gave her opinion..

But who said women in nuclear families has less work whether work is shared by men or not , women has more work. If they don't work how things goes properly.

In joint families work is more and at the same time misunderstandings are also too much. to avoid  differences and to maintain good relations for long periods and many other reasons nuclear families arose.

 women beyond their limit maintain work life balance. Can anyone imagine the work done by women?

its not just cooking?

She maintains, supervises all things perfectly. For one day if man takes the role of a mother ,then he MAY understand.

Working women takes care of  children than house wives. Because they feel that they are involved in work and should not loose care ,concern, responsibility towards children.So they concentrate much on kids. Who has time to sit and gossip.

These are my feelings as a working woman at top level management.

regards,

Swapna.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:45 AM, 'Vijendra Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Prof. Datta and Others,

Offspring of working mothers will have higher self-esteem and confidence than others. It may be difficult for a high profile wife to give time to their children. But it is possible. It requires husband also to share work at home. If you have open communication and shared responsibility, the children will have a happy time and good feeling towards their parents.

Nowadays, due to nuclear families, household works are not so much and not working wife will have problem in spending time and leads to feeling of not worthy, and they are busy with their long lasting glued to the T.V. Serials and neighborhood gossiping. But the real loss is for their children.

If it is a joint family, working mother can accommodate more time for work in the initial years of marriage also (family dynamics matters). Otherwise, she may have to take a break for a couple of years, once she gets a child.

Once, children are old enough, above 8 years, quality time matters than quantity. It can be given equally by a working mother. With technology in our hand, even communication and monitoring is not an issue.

Regards,

Prof. Vijendra Kumar S.K.

Assistant Professor & Counseling Psychologist

PES University,

Bangalore.

On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:05 AM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Esteemed MTCians,

Happy Friday Morning!!!

 

“PepsiCo’s India-born CEO Indra Nooyi, counted among the world’s most powerful women, acknowledged that it is difficult to maintain a work-life balance and women ”Cannot have it all”, saying she doubts if her daughters think she was a good mother”.

 

There is a hue and cry over her recent this statement on women.

 

Request esteemed Member’s views on the subject.

 

My Experience:

 

It is difficult for a woman to manage both the worlds , family and professional, without the support of the husband [ and others in case of joint family] . I had a challenging experience. When I got married my wife was in HP and later on moved to WebEx and Cisco. When we had a baby girl, I started counselling my wife to shift career as finding it difficult from being away from my native to manage the family. Being from lower-middle class family we never had a dream of becoming a millionaire but just to live a happy life which I follow even today.

 

My wife took break for 4 years. During this time she completed her MA [English- Gold Medalist], MBA and double B.Ed to fit into academic. Now , she is a principal in Lady Vailankanni International School , Bangalore and doing great. We put our daughter also [3.5 years old] in the same school. Even though work – pressure not reduced but under control. I even cook food for my family and do all other works at home [which generally a woman does] so that she gets time and performs well. Many times being a principal she has to slog in the school.  She has proved her credentials in academic also bringing up the school as one of the top destinations for students for quality education. I am happy I could help her through the transition stage. There is happiness and satisfaction at the end…………………….

 

 

 

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