And where are you Prophet Ntemfac?
Why can you lead the people out to salvation.Stop talking about LA CAMPAORE here because those who organized the October 30 uprising did not spent their time since 1997 lampooning LA CAMPAORE on the internet. They took action and enabled Burkinabes to breath fresh air.
What a waste!!!!
The table has been set and the meal served. Enjoy your mealAgien Nyangkwe
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin, it is good to know that you, at least do recognize that you are talking to some folks who sacrificed all and took great pain that the SDF, which Fru Ndi has now transformed into his cash-cow, might live!
That, if it is sincere, is heart-warming.
You seem to miss the point that Mr Boh is making to wit; the now consummated irrelevance of the Fru Ndi SDF as the force for good.
Force for good and moral authority for which Juliette Sikod and five others gave their lives.
Force for good and change for which many nameless and faceless people (the youths in the main) have sacrificed blood and limb.
I repeat that that the moral authority, the force for good and the anchor for change this day amounts to nothing but a cash cow and an instrument of blackmail for its unscrupulous leadership especially Mr Fru Ndi. I put it to you that the SDF is nothing but a CPDM sub-section and Mr Fru Ndi is nothing but the CPDM sub-section president of the SDF.
At best, the CPDM sub-section president of Ntarinkon.
My position thereto is not new. I have been shouting the same thing since 1997, the day I took a bowl of water, and Jukunstyle, I washed my hands in front of Mr Fru Ndi.
You have decided to stay, I am okay with that but maintain your mouth where the crumbs it is receiving the crumbs. Do not weaken both positions by now claiming they are inter-changeable. They are not.
May the people you claim to serve not ask questions about your flim-flam in the aftermath.
But why is it that every dictatorship and those who aid and abet such dictatorships claim ownership of the field and the people?
I can assure you that Blaise Compaore (the vile fellow who killed my classmate, Norbert Zongo) was claiming ownership of the people and the field even when they were toppling him.
I assure you that he was still talking about the people when he was Ngong-doging to join his Burkinabe brother, Alassane.
Now, I put it to you that the Camerounese state first and Southern Cameroons next.
Both entities have reached the critical mass ages ago where speeches and resolutions as well as grandstanding on, and out of, the Internet became pointless.
The issue at table now is the nature of the aftermath and the management of the aftermath in the supreme interest of the peoples West and East of the Dibombari, where stands the boundaries of Southern Cameroons.
What is relevant today is: How ready is our generation, to the West especially (and the East naturally) to assume statecraft when the happen would have happened.
Why do you bother about our participation in ejecting the incompetent SDF dictator?
Dictators go when they themselves least expect.
May I remind you that Burkina Faso was all in 24H, done and dusted.
May I remind you that the trigger mechanism did not come from the opposition.
Every dictatorship will eventually produce the rope with which we will string them up sky-high. And, take it from me.
The current SCNC, the SDF and the CPDM are nothing but vile dictatorships.
They draw substance and sustenance from each other.
That is why you are where you are.
--On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Martin Yembe <mfyembe@gmail.com> wrote:Let me take the pleasure to share ideas with my elders in all aspects... profession and political activism. First, to my kinsman, Prophet Ofege: If there are any who fall in the category of being White by day and Black by night, I will NOt be used to allude to that. I am one of the few who is courageous enough to sit and talk straight while owning up where things are going wrong in the house. I knew that my reactions would raise polemics and grammatical innuendos from your highly respectable person. I have never abandoned any course whether by day or by night. I have stood and continue to stand for the Southern Cameroons freedom and independence. We all fought in the SDF and some of us gave up because we claimed, rightly or wrongly that the leadership had gone bananas. I have always said and done what I can without abandoning the boat. I am not under any obligations to justify my allegiance to this or that course, because I am accountable only to the people I serve. I have made my choice, to remain in the SDF we created, and continue fighting for the freedom of the Southern Cameroons. What some of us are doing on the ground will never be known because it is worthless putting them on these your social media...for obvious reasons. We can insult each other; speak big grammar and claim Fru Ndi has done this or that...what is important is efforts being made on the ground where there are no internet services!!--If the media picked up an angle from the last NEC insinuating a planned revolution, which some of us are quick at criticizing and attacking ( as is now the phenomenon in Cameroon), must we already conclude before the action is launched? If, as Big Brother B states, a revolution under the SDF cannot work until there is a revolution in the SDF ( kicking off its leader) I pray he helps us to do it. After all, it is not only the SDF that must do it! If we are unable to kick out Biya after 32 years, and Fru Ndi after 25 years, whose fault is it? With all the wonderful philosophical posting I read on the net these days, I see us having our Biya and Fru Ndi for the next 25 years, why not?Shey LontumOn Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Herbert Boh herbertboh@yahoo.com [camasej] <camasej@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Dear FEN/Shey Martin,Your emails suggest that the SDF is neither at the origin of the message disseminated by media outlets nor has it made a pledge to lead or single handedly bring about a revolution in Cameroon in 2015.Presuming that you are right, that revision to what would have been a balloon is as disappointing as it is reassuring. And here is the reason why:Few Cameroonians believe - in this day and age - that this version of the SDF has the political credibility that it would take to spark a revolution or to lead one. So, thanks for owning up to that incompetence.If today's version of the SDF was capable of a revolution, it would have ousted its Chair. But, alas! There is no revolution left in today's version of the SDF, which is how come its Chair has reigned for a quarter century.Just in case today's SDF has the stomach for the fight and is, indeed, looking to ignite or lead a revolution in 2015, I have a suggestion: sweep at your doorstep! Oust your 25-year reigning chair! Seek ye first the revolution needed within our ranks and all other revolutions will be added unto you!Boh Herbert
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On Nov 12, 2014, at 6:39 AM, "Ofege Ntemfac ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com [cameroons_sdf_party]" <cameroons_sdf_party@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Ntemfac Ofege - Prophet.Mr Yembe, I have often marvelled at (and I have faulted) many who are CPDM by Day and SDF by night.Kind regards to you.
You, on the other hand, constitute another bewildering and obnoxious trend ie those who are SCNC by night and SDF by day.
The SCAPO/SCNC position on issues should not be also used as another leash, another fall-back position, another cash cow, another lender of the last resort and another instrument for self-serving, self-gratifying and instantly gratifying blackmail directed at Mr. Biya's Civil Cabinet.
This is obnoxious and vile.
By asking you this day to take a stand, I also put that challenge unto the entire SDF leadership class who are CPDM sub-section presidents by day while claiming to represent what the SDF stood for.
I need not remind you of the import of the H-world which circumscribe every noisome Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde ie fellows who have their mouths to the West and their stomachs to the East.On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Martin Yembe mfyembe@gmail.com [cameroons_sdf_party] <cameroons_sdf_party@yahoogroups.com> wrote:I am enjoying the Public Opinions on a conjectural view by some media voices harping on an illusion of an idea of a planned Revolution by the SDF . From what I am reading on this forum, the SDF has announced a Revolution to oust Biya come 2015!!! Sounds ridiculous of course...but, is this contained in any Resolution of the SDF?I know, as says Thomas Carlyle, that Popular opinion is the greatest lie in the world. Strike a note on the keyboard of rumours and see how wild and loud it goes! After all, the SDF has not lived up to lots of expectations lately, and instead of the activists identifying the common agent responsible for this and attacking it, we turn and face the victim, pushing it into a deeeper ditch.Every political grouping in a state of cacophony like Cameroun should be doing one of two things at this time: identifying the gross abuses and exploiting the government's neglect of timely repairs of damages done. Of recent, the SDF has been consistently coming out with statements on the Banjul verdict on SCAPO/SCNC case, drawing the attention of the Biya regime to the need for dialogue. This, whether we accept or not, will constitute one of the needed ingredient that Big Brother Boh talked about. We also know that a Revolution is the larva of civilization. We have the social media that has brought us closer to the realities of things and exposes weaknesses and atrocities of the bad guys.In all, we are still to get the Resolutions of the last NEC to be able to know the letter and the spirit of what revolution the media is talking about. Until then, the SDF has not issued any release on a revolution in 2015. We know that some action has been ignited but not announced officially. Anything is better than nothing in our present situation. All the criticisms and attacks are welcomed in such a reawakening move. No turning bac, even if my comrade, Akoson is joining the chorus in calling names. Let's be moving while hitting ourselves!!!Shey Lontum in NduOn Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Ofege Ntemfac ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com [camasej] <camasej@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Enter Emmanuel Fon aka SDF Fundamentalist qua SDF Boko Haramist.How exactly does one get to the level of being blinded by orgiastic militant-ism?--On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Divine Rhyme hittback@yahoo.com [camnetwork] <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hello Herbert,Did the SDF specify that the party is going to organize a revolution to oust Mr Biya, or they simply said this, - as if predicting that there is going to be a revolution?I would think the later is more of the case because from reactions I've so far got from Cameroonians on the Bourkina Faso revolution, Cameroonians are ready to do same but just need a catalyst. I think the SDF has been reading the tea leaves just as many of us have been doing - and hence the statement. Just like the opposition political parties in Bourkina Faso, all the SDF can do is just to continue opposing in this lethargic fashion that has characterized opposition politics in Cameroon for a long time now. One of such a political actions although very timid might just have the perfect ingredients to create the spark the people need. Wayback in history political parties have not been very successful in organizing revolutions. Revolutions are usually mass movements and never partisan affairs even if it comes down to it after the revolution has accomplished its mission of doing away with the old regime.FEN
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Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Le SDF annonce une révolution en 2015
Is this a pledge from the SDF or just more words - more posturing from the SDF?This is what Monday morning political quarter-backing looks like. Sadly I think the SDF is under-appreciating the enormous sacrifice consented by the Faso people in order to oust their dictator. And one way of guaranteeing failure is for politicians elsewhere across Africa to presume that if their peers in Burkina Faso could do it (oust their tyrant), then they, too, can do it. Not true!Success for the Faso Revolution was a factor of surprise, speed, mass mobilization, and luck. The last of these factors - luck - is likely more important than the first three. The security forces in Burkina Faso took sides in favor of the people, opting not to protect the tyrant and his regime; and the French who ruled the country via its puppet president froze in surprise.Unlike the events of the last few days in Burkina Faso, the events of February 2008 in Cameroon led to over 200 civilians killed by the butchers that Yaounde hires in the place of security forces.The SDF promise to oust the Biya regime in 2015 raises serious questions - among them: what revolutionary ingredients will obtain in 2015 in Cameroon that are currently absent? Granting those ingredients are in place, what does the SDF gain by announcing the revolution in advance? Is the goal to alert the regime or to surprise it? Why provide this heads-up to a regime the opposition hopes to oust?Finally, if the SDF truly believes in political leaders being forced to go for overstaying their welcome at the helm, when is the SDF going to take that very plank out if its own eye?Boh Herbert
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