I feel that even after certification there should be a provision for a refresher course and/or renewal of certification after participation in certain number of approved workshops and seminars.
For starting/continuing as a teacher it should be compulsory to spend fulltime at least 3 months (to be repeated after every 3 years) in practicing the management in industry/business of one's choice .
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Prabhakar Waghodekar
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 6:37 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] UGC NET holders ask varsities to end practice to appoint non NET PhD holders
Teaching is very different profession/occupation that deals only with minds
of teachers and taught. In other professions, it is mostly the relationships
of living and non-living entities.
Naturally, teachers'recruitment must be taken seriously. The starting point
is the candidate must be a certified teacher (by a national Public/NGO body)
along with suitable academic qualifications at any entry point: AP, AsP or
Professor or Principal. No relaxation be given.
Within 5 years education-outcomes will be as desired by stakeholders.
________________________________________________________________________
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:59:35 +0530 Maha Rajan K
wrote
>Dear esteemed MTC-G members,
In continuation to my earlier contribution to this discussion, the
following points are worth pondering over.
It is again, the answers to the questions posed by the members are in
the questions themselves. If UGC NET is just a reflection of basic
domain knowledge which even a young pass out can also crack, why can't
the so called senior managers from industry crack it? Why are they
weary of appearing in UGC NET? It is not to demean the experience of
managers in industry, but to enter into academics one need to get the
basic eligibility i.e. UGC NET.
Moreover, we don't deny that management is essentially application of
knowledge. However, one must possess basic domain knowledge at a bench
mark level to apply it in real life situation. Otherwise, application
of half-backed knowledge can be disastrous.
The optimum combination of faculty for any management institution must
include people with industry experience with a zest for teaching. If
there is a real interest towards academics, people from industry
should be able to crack UGC NET with their experience. UGC NET is the
basic license to enter academics and one has to prove his/her driving
skills to obtain that license. As one further climbs up the ladder in
academics, he/she can take up further research, consultancy, MDPs and
any other opportunities.
With regards and best wishes,
Maharajan K
On 2/19/15, Dipanjay Bhalerao wrote:
>
> Dear Sir,
>
>
> UGC NET is just a reflection of basic domain knowledge, which even a young
> immediate pass out can also crack. In fact in most of the cases
>
> this is the case of UGC NET pass outs.
>
> In case of the Management teaching ,faculties with decent industrial
> experience carve better management faculty. Management learning is very
> different from other courses where domain application plays a major role
in
> the form of theory learning. But in the case of MBA or other management
> courses the faculty MUST have
>
> 1. Strong industry perspective with real life experience in the respective
> area,
>
> 2. Continuous research demonstration in papers and case study development
>
> 3. Ongoing Industry consultancy work
>
> 4. Ability to take up MDPs for corporate executives
>
> 5. For the senior Faculties, even the capability to train other faculty
> members becomes a major criterion.
>
>
> When we consider the Management faculties with strong Industry experience
,
> Why these so called UGC NET pass outs advocates give weightage to the
> faculties with strong experience. Why do we just measure their expertise
> from only UGC NET ?
>
>
> The major criterion for selection of Management faculty should therefore
be
> Industry expertise in the relevant area not just UGC NET. Asking a Senior
> Manager to go through USC NET is demeaning his potential. These Bookish
> faculties are really killing today the management education in India, just
> opposite to the global management institutes where this kind of BUG is not
> there !
>
>
> A point worth pondering !
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dipanjay Bhalerao
>
> Assistant Professor (Marketing)
>
> Indira Institute of Management, Pune
>
> Email- dipanjay.bhalerao@indiraiimp.edu.in
>
> Mobile no: 09503800802
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com on behalf of
> prithvishankar
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:46 PM
> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MTC Global] UGC NET holders ask varsities to end practice to
> appoint non NET PhD holders
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> I fail to appreciate your point, of having Bachelors degree and Masters
> degree in the same stream for appearing in NET exam..............there may
> be some subjects where this may be applicable, but in Management subject
> this need not be applicable! Infact, much innovative ways and strategies
are
> required to be evolved in the present day context, where this Management
> education and practice, as a subject is dynamically changing under
different
> circumstances with inputs from experts from different fields, including
> industry and corporates. In that respect an inter disciplinary approach is
> most suited. And therefore, persons with different Bachelors and masters
> degrees ( both eminent and average persons in this field, both academia
and
> industry) have contributed effectively and helped the subject develop!
>
> There is conscious effort to channelize the professional education of MBA
> into this stereotyped direction by certain sections of our esteemed
> academia, which will throttle its development and growth with changing
> times. Otherwise, it will not be possible for people from industry to
> contribute and enrich it. They need to realize that both type of people
need
> to co-exist and and complement each other. Our policy makers of Higher
> Education and UGC should take note of this serious development !!
>
> Take for example, Prof. Dipak. C. Jain, presently Director. INSEAD (France
> and Singapore) and formerly, Dean, Kellogg School of Management, USA is a
> B.Sc (Stat), M.Sc (Stat) from Tezpur, Assam and PhD (Marketing) from USA
is
> a through and great management academician cum professional who has helped
> many institutions to develop their research and teaching capabilities and
> many corporates to turnaround and develop! I have personally heard him in
> different lectures in India.
>
> Invite your views and comments!
>
> kind regards,
> Dr.P.S.Raychaudhuri
> New Delhi
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
> From: chiranjib_kumar@hotmail.com
> Subject: RE: [MTC Global] UGC NET holders ask varsities to end practice to
> appoint non NET PhD holders
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:54:09 +0530
>
> Dear academician,
>
> Still I would say present NET is invalid exam as it is based on only
> temporary study to check temporary knowledge, without true experience and
> permanent knowledge/skill/ethics. And for which proper time is required to
> acquire permanency.
> Prior to conducting NET exam, UGC must concentrate on designing common
> syllabus for all the programmes for all the universities or institutions
at
> least from Bachelor to Masters Level .
>
> And the minimum eligibility criteria to sit in NET exam must be Bachelor
and
> Masters degree in same stream. But then also NET would be valid for only
JRF
> not for Lectureship. As Lecturer/ teacher position demands a delivery
> mechanism through demonstration, re-search work, case studies and other
> experiences which can be acquired only during JRF with teaching associate.
A
> person can become a good lecture only after certain time and for which
doing
> PhD under guidance of established professor can be the only best option.
>
> I am not blaming good private university but I would still say all private
> university including good private university a money making factory as
they
> are charging too much fees to a candidate looking for PhD.
>
> A good PhD with course work including Bachelor and Master degree in same
> domain is better for Lectureship position . Even a person has
> Bachelor,Masters in same domain with BEd and MEd may be considered for any
> teaching position. In addition to this a person must have industry or
> professional experience.
>
> Therefore in my opinion till now NET can be considered as valid exam for
> Lectureship as till date there is no uniformity in the syllabus and course
> structure of universities in India. To improve quality at least basic
> subjects of study of any students from any part of India must be same at
> college and university level otherwise results will be on quality of
> delivery and services.
>
> Thanks n regards
> Chiranjib kumar
>
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Maha Rajan K
> Sent: 19-02-2015 12:06
> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] UGC NET holders ask varsities to end practice to
> appoint non NET PhD holders
>
> Dear learned members,
>
> The discussion has been quite interesting. The answers to some of the
> questions raised by the members are in the questions itself. For
> instance, one of the members rightly points out that there is no
> uniform syllabus followed by the universities in India. Exactly due to
> this reason, the UGC NET becomes a necessity to serve as a common
> scale for the candidates at the national level. In the same way, the
> state level tests called as SLET or SET acts as the benchmark at the
> respective state levels. In the absence of such standardized tests,
> there is no other way to put everyone in the level playing field.
>
> Secondly, there are contradictory statements that NET qualified
> candidates are not found suitable for lectureship, but may be eligible
> for JRF. In the same place, it is also said that PhD candidates are
> somewhat better than NET candidates. There is no logic in such
> statements, as both JRF and PhD involve research aptitude, though at
> different levels. To make generalization on NET qualified candidates
> on the basis of the performance of a few in a particular interview is
> questionable. It is again dependent on the quality of the institutions
> to attract the NET candidates for the faculty positions.
>
> More importantly, to hastily denounce a nationwide test designed by
> the high level educationalist and policy makers is undesirable. It is
> generally found that those who have not or could not qualify the NET
> indulge in such acts. It is analogous to calling the grapes sour which
> is beyond the individual's capability.
>
> Further, NET is not just another book exam as involves reasoning tests
> and aptitude tests. It is no doubt a tough exam which requires hard
> work and intellect to clear. In the same way, PhD is also not that
> easy to pursue, exempting undesirable practices at some institutions.
> Therefore, NET and PhD are two sides of the same coin that test an
> individuals knowledge and research capabilities. Moreover, even PhD
> cannot be a guarantee for the teaching abilities of an individual.
>
> To sum up, NET is a necessary evil (if someone chooses to call so),
> and PhD is a desirable qualification for teachers for all subjects
> including management. Further, the teaching abilities need to be
> tested during the interviews to arrive at desirable outcomes.
>
> With regards and best wishes,
> Maharajan K
>
> On 2/18/15, Prof. Bholanath Dutta wrote:
>> The University Grants Commission (UGC) National Eligibility Test (NET)
>> rank
>> holders have urged universities and colleges to end the practice of
>> appointing PhD holders without NET qualification as teachers alleging
>> large-scale irregularities in the award of doctorates.
>>
>> The UGC has prescribed NET as the qualification for teacher appointments.
>> However, PhD holders are exempted from it. "The state Higher Education
>> Department had issued an order exempting researchers without proper
>> coursework from NET qualification. This is a blatant violation of UGC
>> regulations on teachers' appointments," said P Sreejith of UGC Qualified
>> Group - an association of UGC NET rank holders.
>>
>> The UGC Qualified Group has written to the Governor urging him to revoke
>> the government order which stated that all candidates who obtained PhD on
>> or before 10-7-2009 and who have registered before this period for PhD
>> can
>> be exempted from NET qualification. "We are basically opposed to the way
>> in
>> which weightage is given to PhD holders for publication of research
>> papers
>> in reputed journals.
>>
>> Usually such papers are ghost written by research guides. Therefore,
>> giving
>> weightage for such a malpractice cannot be justified," he said.
>>
>> "Giving weightage to PhD holders for published research material puts NET
>> qualified candidates at a disadvantage. Besides, more and more people are
>> misusing PhD as a way to get relaxation from NET qualification," the UGC
>> Qualified Group alleged, reported New Indian Express.
>>
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