- What is the cost of education incurred by the A to A++ institutes?
- Are we really following inclusion principle in education without compromising with quality assurance?
- Will not students turn to Distance Education?
- Is it not that we hardly take care of the spirit and soul of education from national point of view?
- What is the % wastage in terms of time and money in Indian institutes scenario?
From: "Mr. Govind Autee" <govind.autee@mit.asia>
Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:35:28
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Cc: Munish Sharma <munish.sharma@mit.asia>
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
Dear All,
The ranking-wise analysis of the running institutes will be quite helpful, leaving alone A++ and A+ institutions since institutions below C-level have already been closed by AICTE.
- The institutions who could get admissions to fulfill their intake-capacity, to be categorized at A-level who would like to achieve A+ and A++ (most preferred institutions) status with cut-off levels quite high and getting higher; these institutions may be having adequate core strengths to come up with Institution-specific-solutions for proactive creation, evaluation and revision of curricular experiences which guide student learning; expert lectures may be offered by the MTC_Global community to enhance their efforts.
- MTC_Global has already offered helping hand to the B level to rise to A level through Center of Excellence initiatives and accreditation.
- The border line organizations, self assessed under C-group, who have some-how scarped through this year, may have to verify that their activity-based-costing of the academic-programs are crystal clear; the break-even level of admissions can be accordingly worked out, to focus resources on core-goals, shifting funds from programs that aren't productive to activities that truly drive growth of the Institution, under such crisis-situation, seeking AICTE's assistance for modernization and quality assurance.
Warm regards,
G.S.Autee
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Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
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Thanks Dr Natarajan for your views.
-- It is a pity that in many institutes the curriculum is abysmally hackneyed and outdated. No doubt that garbage curriculum will produce garbage output.
I look after the subjects MIS and Marketing and I have to abide by the syllabus. But I go out of the way to ensure that the latest development in IT and marketing are covered. The students are receptive and they feel more comfortable in absorbing the latest instead of the history.
I had spent almost 34 years in system integration and marketing in CMC (now TCS) and observed over the time how customers have changed. We are now into a more flattened organization where the client CEO interacts directly with the development team and wants to get inside the brasstags of reality. It's their prerogative and we have to put up with that and explore how we can relate ourselves better. Much of relationship marketing has pervaded into business space hitherto gone unnoticed by the syllabus designers.
Technology, business concepts are changing every year and the fact is: it is not easy to change the syllabus accordingly. Faculty has a significant role to play by owning the responsibility to deliver what is wanted in the market.
Warm regards
Dr Biswas
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> CC: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 17:22:13 +0000
>
> I agree with Dr Biswas that high quality infrastructure and curriculum are important focus areas.
>
> But there is merit in this first step taken by Dr Sahasrabude. Making it more difficult to set up Technical and Management institutions will lead to better quality provided by those who do have permission to offer programs.
>
>
> Ganesh - San Francisco
>
> www.ganeshnatarajan.com<http://www.ganeshnatarajan.com>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:05 AM, "supriya biswas" <supriya_biswas@hotmail.com<mailto:supriya_biswas@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Reducing seats would restrict the supply to some extent. But is it the ultimate solution? There should be more focus on the quality of teaching, infrastructure and job oriented curriculum. Not all private colleges are starving with students, there are some going strong in this market - how? It is important to think over these points.
>
> Regards
>
> Dr. Supriya Biswas
> Kolkata
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 06:15:25 +0000
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> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com<mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
>
> This is not any top-down move. It is sheer lack of demand that is forcing many of the engineering colleges to surrender seats. Likewise in the MBA programs. MBA has become like starting a neighbourhood kirana shop - low entry barriers.
>
> uma chandrasekaran
>
>
>
> On Friday, 25 September 2015 10:26 AM, Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com<mailto:goel.virendra@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> No credit goes to AICTE for this move. It is a natural process of elimination in light of supply being more than the demand and value for money perceived by the students. Expecting any quality improvement after reduction of seats will be disappointing. We are still far away from a competitive spirit based on the quality. It will perhaps take few more years before crisis of survival reaches its peak and process of quality education becomes a necessity for every institution.
> Regards
> Virendra Goel
>
> From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com<mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com> [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Prof. Bholanath Dutta
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> Subject: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
>
> India's epidemic of lousy engineering colleges, which churned out millions of substandard engineers, may finally be ending.
> The country's technical education regulator, All India Council for Technical Education, is planning to reduce over 600,000 engineering seats in colleges across India.
> "We would like to bring it (engineering seats) down to between 10 lakh and 11 lakh (one million and 1.1 million) from a little over 16.7 lakh now," Anil Sahasrabudhe, chairman of the AICTE, told the Mint newspaper.
> The dismal quality of education at many of the country's existing engineering colleges is one of the main reasons behind AICTE's decision. The regulatory body plans to close down certain colleges and reduce the number seats in some others over the next few years.
> "It is the colleges that are coming forward for closure. We are facilitating closure if the colleges are not able to manage with hardly 20-30% seats filled because these colleges become non-viable," Sahasrabudhe told Quartz in an email.
> This year alone, about 556 engineering courses or departments across colleges in India have closed down, according to AICTE.
>
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> I agree with Dr Biswas that high quality infrastructure and curriculum are important focus areas.
>
> But there is merit in this first step taken by Dr Sahasrabude. Making it more difficult to set up Technical and Management institutions will lead to better quality provided by those who do have permission to offer programs.
>
>
> Ganesh - San Francisco
>
> www.ganeshnatarajan.com<http://www.ganeshnatarajan.com>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:05 AM, "supriya biswas" <supriya_biswas@hotmail.com<mailto:supriya_biswas@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Reducing seats would restrict the supply to some extent. But is it the ultimate solution? There should be more focus on the quality of teaching, infrastructure and job oriented curriculum. Not all private colleges are starving with students, there are some going strong in this market - how? It is important to think over these points.
>
> Regards
>
> Dr. Supriya Biswas
> Kolkata
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 06:15:25 +0000
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> To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com<mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
>
> This is not any top-down move. It is sheer lack of demand that is forcing many of the engineering colleges to surrender seats. Likewise in the MBA programs. MBA has become like starting a neighbourhood kirana shop - low entry barriers.
>
> uma chandrasekaran
>
>
>
> On Friday, 25 September 2015 10:26 AM, Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com<mailto:goel.virendra@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> No credit goes to AICTE for this move. It is a natural process of elimination in light of supply being more than the demand and value for money perceived by the students. Expecting any quality improvement after reduction of seats will be disappointing. We are still far away from a competitive spirit based on the quality. It will perhaps take few more years before crisis of survival reaches its peak and process of quality education becomes a necessity for every institution.
> Regards
> Virendra Goel
>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 3:16 PM
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> Subject: [MTC Global] Finally, India will produce fewer lousy engineers every year
>
> India's epidemic of lousy engineering colleges, which churned out millions of substandard engineers, may finally be ending.
> The country's technical education regulator, All India Council for Technical Education, is planning to reduce over 600,000 engineering seats in colleges across India.
> "We would like to bring it (engineering seats) down to between 10 lakh and 11 lakh (one million and 1.1 million) from a little over 16.7 lakh now," Anil Sahasrabudhe, chairman of the AICTE, told the Mint newspaper.
> The dismal quality of education at many of the country's existing engineering colleges is one of the main reasons behind AICTE's decision. The regulatory body plans to close down certain colleges and reduce the number seats in some others over the next few years.
> "It is the colleges that are coming forward for closure. We are facilitating closure if the colleges are not able to manage with hardly 20-30% seats filled because these colleges become non-viable," Sahasrabudhe told Quartz in an email.
> This year alone, about 556 engineering courses or departments across colleges in India have closed down, according to AICTE.
>
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