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Sunday, November 1, 2015

Re: Father Krzystof Charamsa stripped of post on the day he said he was gay

Renegade Father Charamsa accuses the church and Vatican of Hypocrisy. 
This is very serious because this is the same reason Christ rebuked the pharisees who were the church leaders of his time.
Is this a "deja vu?" The crime of Church leaders will never change
 Gilles 



On Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:31 PM, 'Pascal' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


People are not forced to become priests. There are laws governing this profession. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen or don't even step into the kitchen period.

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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 03:39, Charles Edosomwan <edosomwanlaw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> People,
> This priest musta been practicalizing exercising his sexuality somehow, don'tcha think? All this talk about celibacy is most probably a you-know-what for many people of the cloth.
> CUE
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 23:41, Joseph Kijem <yuh750@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>> The Church is making life 'hell' for millions of gay Catholics even
>> though the clergy is 'full of homosexuals' says priest fired by the
>> Vatican after coming out
>>
>>  Father Krzystof Charamsa stripped of post on the day he said he was gay
>>  In furious letter to Pope Francis, he has accused the Vatican of hypocrisy
>>  Condemned Church for causing 'immeasurable suffering' to gay Catholics
>>  Called on 'gay cardinals, bishops and priests' to abandon 'brutal' Church
>>  Italian court annuls marriages of hundreds gay couples who wed abroad
>>
>> By Simon Tomlinson for MailOnline
>>
>> Published: 12:37 GMT, 28 October 2015 | Updated: 13:42 GMT, 28 October 2015
>>
>>
>> A high-ranking Polish priest who was fired after coming out as gay has
>> accused the Catholic Church of making life 'hell' for millions of
>> homosexuals.
>>
>> Father Krzystof Charamsa was stripped of his post earlier this month
>> on the day he announced he was in a relationship with another man.
>>
>> In a scathing letter to Pope Francis, he accused the Vatican of
>> hypocrisy because he said the clergy was 'full of homosexuals'.
>>
>> He also condemned the Church for causing 'immeasurable suffering' to
>> homosexual Catholics and their families.
>>
>> Scroll down for video
>> Polish priest Krzystof Charamsa (left) has accused the Catholic Church
>> of making life 'hell' for millions of homosexuals after he was fired
>> on the day he announced he was in a relationship with another man
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>>
>> Polish priest Krzystof Charamsa (left) has accused the Catholic Church
>> of making life 'hell' for millions of homosexuals after he was fired
>> on the day he announced he was in a relationship with another man
>>
>> In the letter, released to the BBC, he said he had taken the decision
>> to 'publicly reject the violence of the Church towards homosexual,
>> lesbian, bisexual, transsexual and intersexual people'.
>>
>> He called on 'all gay cardinals, gay bishops and gay priests to have
>> the courage to abandon this insensitive, unfair and brutal Church.'
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>>
>> Pope Francis has not yet responded to the letter.
>>
>> But the Vatican's anger contrasted with the news of Francis's still
>> close relationship with an old Argentinian friend and his gay partner,
>> who were hugged by the pontiff in the United States last month.
>> Father Charamsa has written a letter to Pope Francis, saying he had
>> taken the decision to 'publicly reject the violence of the Church
>> towards homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual and intersexual
>> people'
>>
>> Father Charamsa has written a letter to Pope Francis, saying he had
>> taken the decision to 'publicly reject the violence of the Church
>> towards homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual and intersexual
>> people'
>> FURY AS ITALY ANNULS HUNDREDS OF GAY MARRIAGES
>>
>> An Italian court ruled that marriages of gay couples who wed abroad
>> can't be registered in Italy, sparking an angry reaction from cities
>> which had defied the government to recognise the unions.
>>
>> Italy's highest administrative court annulled a ruling by a lower
>> court which had earlier found in favour of cities from Rome to Naples
>> and Milan which had registered such marriages despite the fact that
>> Italy has no legal framework for gay unions.
>>
>> Interior Minister Angelino Alfano, who issued an order last year
>> banning the practice, applauded the latest ruling, saying it showed he
>> was right to take a stand despite having provoked 'controversy,
>> sometimes violent aggression and a hail of appeals'.
>>
>> The decision was met in some quarters with anger if not surprise in a
>> country where the Catholic Church - opposed to gay marriage - plays an
>> influential role in politics.
>>
>> Foreign ministry undersecretary Benedetto Della Vedova said it was 'a
>> victory for none and a defeat for all'.
>>
>> A bill introducing civil unions for same-sex couples is currently
>> being examined by parliament but has met fierce opposition.
>>
>> The Pontiff has also previously said that the Church must have 'its
>> doors open to welcome all those who knock' and not 'point the finger
>> in judgement' of others.
>>
>> Earlier this month, Father Charamsa rubbished claims that there was a
>> 'gay lobby' trying to influence the church.
>>
>> It came after the Pope made comments in the past that suggested there
>> was a gay network in the Church.
>>
>> In 2013 he famously said 'Who am I to judge?' when asked about
>> homosexuals in the Church and the rumoured network of gay Vatican
>> leaders.
>>
>> But Father Charamsa denied the rumours.
>>
>> 'I met homosexual priests, often isolated like me... but no gay
>> lobby,' he said, adding that he also met gay priests who were
>> 'homophobes' and had 'hatred for themselves and others'.
>>
>> Charamsa said he wrote a letter to Pope Francis asking him to convey
>> his spirit of openness to bishops at the synod, where Church leaders
>> discussed marriage and family teachings.
>>
>> Since 2005, the Church has forbidden the ordination of priests with
>> homosexual tendencies.
>>
>> But this rule is applied in different ways, with many bishops turning
>> a blind eye as long as priests remain celibate.
>>
>> Charamsa says he has stayed faithful to his vow of celibacy because he
>> has 'never touched a woman'.
>> Read more:
>>
>>  Gay priest decries 'inhuman' treatment of homosexual Catholics - BBC News
>>
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