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Tuesday, May 31, 2016

Re: [cameroon_politics] L’irresponsabilité préméditée @ Mathias Eric Owona Nguini

That is a very very DEEEEEP one
You mirrored it aptly

Thank you and good day

Agien Nyangkwe

On 5/30/16, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
> The apple does not fall very far from the tree...
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <
> nyangkweagien@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Prophet
>>
>> You cannot imagine that it was this boy who almost made me run into a
>> squabble with my two children as i wanted them to follow his line of
>> reasoning when it comes to public issues three years ago.
>> The boy has since metamorphosed into a monster to my greatest dismay
>>
>> Agien Nyangkwe
>>
>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 4:46 AM, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Aaron, give Mr Owona-Nguini space, will you?
>>> He has a rope, he will hand himself with it.Allow Mr Owona-Nguine
>>> explicate the tragedy
>>> Our francophone brothers ought to read "The Genuine Intellectual" by
>>> Bernard Fonlon.
>>> The Genuine Intellectual is this rare breed of person who uses his
>>> God-given knowledge for public service rather than abuse learning to
>>> join
>>> the permissive and pernicious cabal that runs the Camerounese state.
>>> Herewith some random notes to show us that the tragedy of the Joseph
>>> Owona "Jealous Constitution" had happened before - under Ahidjo.
>>>
>>> ........Notes from Den of Lions Vol 1
>>>
>>> After Ahidjo was vested with full powers, the Assembly went into recess
>>> and the Prime Minister set up an extra-parliamentary Constitutional
>>> Committee; a committee with no real power. 54
>>> <http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1021-545X2015000200005#back_fn54>
>>> Only
>>> hardcore Ahidjo stooges in the National Assembly were co-opted into the
>>> so-called Constitutional Consultative Committee. Refuseniks like Mgr
>>> Thomas
>>> Mongo, Bishop of Douala; Soppo Priso, Daniel Kemajou, Théodore Mayi
>>> Ma-tip,
>>> Dissaké Hans, Mbottey Joseph, and many others walked out of the
>>> constitutional Consultative Committee. [1]
>>> <#m_9075650845292942869_m_4820994617222280279__ftn1>
>>>
>>> It has now filtered that that "the supreme law for Cameroon was drafted
>>> in one night by two French advisers, Jacques Rousseau and Paul Audat55
>>> <http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1021-545X2015000200005#back_fn55>
>>> and was later proofread by a French political science expert, Professor
>>> Maurice Duverger, who, for a fee, agreed to be part of this legal farce.
>>> 56
>>> <http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1021-545X2015000200005#back_fn56>
>>> It is reported that because the initial provisions were too liberal,
>>> Colonel Jacques Richard, the French Commander of the Gendarmerie in
>>> Cameroon, persuaded Duverger to include certain repressive sections in
>>> the
>>> draft constitution to counter the ongoing rebellion.57
>>> <http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1021-545X2015000200005#back_fn57>
>>> As described sarcastically by Gaillard, in the absence of a secretary
>>> "an
>>> eminent professor fashioned the draft constitution for Cameroon
>>> according
>>> to the dictate of a policeman".58
>>> <http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1021-545X2015000200005#back_fn58>
>>>
>>> Naturally, the Frenchmen who drafted the 1960 constution drew heavily
>>> from successive past French constitutions and related laws notably:
>>>
>>> 1. The French Constituition in 1875 or the Third Republic;
>>>
>>> 2. The French Constitution of 1946 ot the Fourth Republic IV
>>> notably the segments setting up Elf and petroleum exploration in the
>>> colonies.
>>>
>>> 3. The French Constitution of 1958 or the Fifth Republic;
>>>
>>> Subsequent constitutions of French Cameroun also drew inspiration from
>>> the constitutional order in France notably:
>>>
>>> 4. The 1961 French Cameroun Annexation Law
>>>
>>> 5. The 1972 French Cameroun Constitution which violated Article 47
>>> of the 1961 Annexation Law crafted for French Cameroun by Frenchmen.
>>>
>>> 6. Modifications of the 1972 French Cameroun Constitution was at
>>> the behest of France;
>>>
>>> 7. The Biya 1996 Constitutional Modification;
>>>
>>> 8. The 2008 Biya Constitution to make Mr Biya a life president.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The draft was then handed over to Ahidjo by the then French Ambassador,
>>> Jean Bénard. (Kamga, 2015). France has always enacted laws intended for
>>> France and Frenchmen but extended to the colonies. Some of these laws
>>> have
>>> not been repealed. French presence in Cameroun is itself government by
>>> vaious legislations (even the French constitutions) extending French
>>> laws
>>> either fully or partially to to French Cameroun. There is even a French
>>> decree authorizing Ahidjo to impose the French language to Ambazonians.
>>>
>>> On August 6, 1961, the national assembly amended the constitution of
>>> March 4, 1960 by 88 YES votes, zero NO votes, and 6 abstentions.
>>> According
>>> to La République du Cameroun, the constitutional amendment made on
>>> August
>>> 6, 1961 on the constitution of the République du Cameroun of January 1,
>>> 1960, was to accommodate the Southern Cameroons as the western part of
>>> German Kamerun. Carlson Anyangwe expostulates that this constitutional
>>> Amendment, executed by Yves Bie'ville, the French jurist who drafted the
>>> constitution of March 4, 1960, was a mockery of international law, the
>>> international community, and the United Nations. The amended
>>> constitution
>>> could in no way become a Treaty of Union in international law as
>>> prescribed
>>> by UNGAR 1608 (XV) of April 21, 1961.
>>>
>>> Notwithstanding the fact that the population voted massively against the
>>> draft, the French administration and its local compradors stuffed the
>>> ballot boxes and produced doctored tallies as they had done in the
>>> 1953-1954 elections, the constitution was promulgated on March 4, 1960.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> [1] <#m_9075650845292942869_m_4820994617222280279__ftnref1> Manassé
>>> Aboya Endong, 'Parlement et parlementaires au Cameroun: compte-rendu de
>>> l'histoire d'un contenant sans contenu?' Solon, revue africaine de
>>> parlementarisme et de démocratie, Vol. 1, 1999.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-05-29 7:33 GMT-07:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron nyangkweagien@gmail.com
>>> [cameroon_politics] <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr Mathias Eric Owona Nguini
>>>>
>>>> Je n'ai aucune admiration pour l'homme. Ce sont les valeurs que
>>>> l'homme incarne qui tiennent lieu. Pour l'intellectuel, c'est sa
>>>> rigueur tandis que pour l'homme tout court, c'est son honnêteté.
>>>>
>>>> Je reviendrai sur votre mail plus en profondeur. This is because, you
>>>> cannot bamboozle me
>>>>
>>>> A demain
>>>>
>>>> Agien Nyangkwe
>>>>
>>>> On 5/29/16, owonanguini owonanguini@yahoo.fr [cameroon_politics]
>>>> <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>> > Cher Thierry Amougou, j'ai la Vérité de mon Côté . Le Projet du
>>>> > Comité
>>>> > Technique dit Comité Owona n'a rien à voir avec la Constitution du 18
>>>> > Janvier 1996. Cela est observable et constatable.
>>>> >
>>>> > Le 29 mai 2016 14:14, "thierry amougou74@hotmail.com
>>>> [cameroon_politics]"
>>>> > <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bonjour à tous et à toutes
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Le débat que nous avons sur notre Constitution depuis quelques jours
>>>> est
>>>> >> très important et vital pour notre présent et notre avenir. Dans
>>>> l'absolu,
>>>> >> une Constitution est, comme le diraient les Anglo-Saxons, « the glue
>>>> that
>>>> >> links us together ».
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nous devons malheureusement d'une part, avouer qu'une Constitution
>>>> >> camerounaise qui consacre et publicise les catégories « autochtones
>>>> >> »
>>>> et
>>>> >> « allochtones » cesse immédiatement d'être « the glue that links us
>>>> >> together » et, d'autre part, qu'elle renforce une inégalité entre
>>>> citoyens
>>>> >> au sein de la nation en donnant tous les pouvoirs à un homme, le
>>>> président
>>>> >> de la république sans contrebalancer cela par un devoir digne de son
>>>> >> rang : il n'est responsable de rien pendant ses mandats. Le pouvoir
>>>> >> politique cesse d'être un bien collectif qui implique des
>>>> responsabilités
>>>> >> pour devenir un bien privé qu'on utilise à sa guise. Quand de façon
>>>> >> générale celui qui a tant de pouvoir doit avoir la responsabilité
>>>> >> pour
>>>> >> principe cardinal d'action, notre Constitution sacralise le
>>>> >> contraire…
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Plusieurs dimensions de ce débat ont été très bien évoquées dans ce
>>>> forum
>>>> >> par plusieurs d'entre nous. L'axe dominant n°1 du débat me semble
>>>> celui où
>>>> >> une opposition argumentative se fait jour entre compatriotes qui
>>>> pensent
>>>> >> que Joseph Owona a été désigné dans l'équipe chargée de
>>>> >> confectionner
>>>> la
>>>> >> Constitution de 1996 parce qu'il est un Béti, et ceux qui pensent
>>>> >> que
>>>> >> c'est à cause ou grâce à ses compétences en droit constitutionnel.
>>>> L'axe
>>>> >> dominant n° 2 du débat est celui qui oppose ceux qui disent que la
>>>> >> Constitution de 1996 a bien été inspirée et écrite par Joseph Owona
>>>> et son
>>>> >> équipe, et ceux, notamment Owona Nguini, qui soutiennent que ce
>>>> >> n'est
>>>> pas
>>>> >> cette équipe-là mais des Français qui, à la demande de Paul Biya,
>>>> >> ont
>>>> >> écrit la Constitution camerounaise de 1996.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cher amis et amies, je pense, malgré l'importance du débat
>>>> >> tribalisme
>>>> >> versus compétence et du débat origine endogène versus origine
>>>> >> exogène
>>>> de
>>>> >> notre Constitution de 1996, qu'une question plus importante existe
>>>> aussi.
>>>> >> La saisir exige de ne pas oublier qu'il n'y a pas mieux qu'un
>>>> >> Africain
>>>> >> pour être averti, via l'histoire coloniale de son continent, des
>>>> dégâts
>>>> >> paroxystiques d'un pouvoir prédateur sur les hommes, les choses, les
>>>> >> structures sociales et les imaginaires. L'Homme nouveau dont nous
>>>> parlait
>>>> >> Frantz Fano
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE
>>>> P.O.Box 5213
>>>> Douala-Cameroon
>>>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27
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