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Re: [cameroon_politics] COLONIZATION: All Heads of Departments (HODs ) of the University of Buea (UB) and Bamenda (UBa) said NO to harmonization. The Minister of Higher Education

I thought each of the so called Cameroon State Universities has a separate decree of creation or birth certificate so to say.  Where in the decrees creating Buea University, Bamenda University or any of the other state universities does the Minister derive the authority to  regulate/harmonizes courses to be taken in all  Cameroon state universities?
 Mbeseha


On Saturday, June 4, 2016 7:19 AM, 'SAIDOU' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


I remember I once said in an official meeting that Cameroon is practicing a Cameroonian version of the LMD, and I waS TOLD TO SHUT UP. 

In the Cameroon tertiary education system we have one nonesense, one abberation, called M1 and M2. Because it is still done in France.

If Cameroon can still maintain what they call ''probatoire'', which has no place in the anglosaxon system, I can understand why our universities think we can issue a diploma called M1, in the BMD system.

Another abberation is to allow students, even today, do a Masters in FOUR YEARS!!!! I have students who registered in M in 2012, today 2016 they have not yet graduated.

What do we want to harmonize in Cameroon? What is harmonization?
- lifting the francophone system up to the anglophone system?? or
- lifting the anglophone system down to the francophone system???
 
SAIDOU NCHOUAT SOULE
University of Yaounde I,
Yaounde, Cameroon
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Objet : [cameroon_politics] COLONIZATION: All Heads of Departments (HODs ) of the University of Buea (UB) and Bamenda (UBa) said NO to harmonization. The Minister of Higher Education

 
In a late afternoon move on Friday June, 3rd 2016, all Heads of Departments (HODs ) of the University of Buea (UB) and Bamenda (UBa) said NO to harmonization. The Minister of Higher Education, Prof Jacques Fame Ndongo looked visibly shocked that lecturers from these two universities stood their grounds in Yaoundé and spoke with one voice. They told the Minister who had used the LMD as an excuse to call for harmonization that the Anglophone system remains the best and if there is a need for any harmonization, then the Francophone universities in the country must go the Anglophone way.
God is still saying something.
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The Cameroun government has been planning for years to harmonize academic programmes in the Cameroons state universities. Such a move received fierce…
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Fred Awomah Achondoh
Fred Awomah Achondoh Well if harmonization means making university curriculum similar to international standards then its a good move. International standards all move towards the English system why is our case different. But I think the government just want to further frustrate the young generation. Nigerian universities are not full yet. We can still go the Nigerian direction. Yes or oui?
Mark Bareta
Mark Bareta Fred Awomah Achondoh that is not what the government want. Listen to what one lecturer wrote. "You cannot be talking about harmonization of university programmes. Universities are created based on the needs of society and each of them must have their s...See More
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Fred Awomah Achondoh
Fred Awomah Achondoh Ma brother. That's a good piece of information. I am pleased you pointed this out
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Bomi Jack
Bomi Jack Very good
Nkeng Nkeng
Nkeng Nkeng Wow ,this is interesting to know. Had it been it had been done like this in all the sectors things would have been different by now.
Petrus Tonus Ngongus
Petrus Tonus Ngongus Hail to the UB and UBa heads of departments for their unanimity! I pray they persist with that welcome move, shunning away all sell-outs whom might mar the process by secretly allying with the minister of Higher Education as usual for their egoistic motives.
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Cyprian Lionel Junior
Cyprian Lionel Junior I hope opposition leaders in Cameroon can learn from this.
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Konfor Zack
Konfor Zack They have done well by saying NO and should keep their stand. At least they are not selling the future of the unborn generation like others did in 1961.
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Amstrong DaBrain
Amstrong DaBrain Thank ya Bareta for keeping us updated. Them go bow..
Aaden Karl
Aaden Karl Thanks for updates and also for firmed decision taken by these heads of departments(hods). Hope some of them wouldn't be bribed to set confusion as usual ?
Sen Forfeke Mofor
Sen Forfeke Mofor Myself agst that. If I consider how the system of education was during my studies both in Dschang and douala universities(Module system), it's quite different from the anglo-saxon system of education. French universities does both political science an...See More
Ceo Davis
Ceo Davis good work bro
Eric Akanji
Eric Akanji I totally agree with the minister. A French says anglo-fools because anglophones react before the come back to their reasoning. It pays nothing to fostrate a policy which have been carefully thought of and it had worked
Eric Akanji
Eric Akanji Which has worked internationally because it does not match with what they think is an Anglophone system. The minister does not just get up one day and say I want to implement a policy. Government policies are carefully studied and every motivation is c...See More
Monah Zealia
Monah Zealia Talk with facts' don't state yr opinions & expect everyone to succumb! Is not a matter of anglophones or francophones..& if that be the case I think francophones need to do a review of their educational system cos is always been disorganised! With clea...See More
Ndiba William Itoe
Ndiba William Itoe Mark they shnt speak in one voice but with a stronger voice that with make unity palace to panic.
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Akoson Pauline Diale
Akoson Pauline Diale Mark, therez a letter puportedly coming from Marafa Hamidou Yaya. Do some homeworl and get back to the audience here. It makes for an interesting read
Germaine Yongue
Germaine Yongue That's awesome we must stand our grounds
Lionel Mesumbe
Lionel Mesumbe That's what I wanna see them doing. Thumps up!!!
Pierre N. Osaze
Pierre N. Osaze The French system of education is really frustrating. ..to state this clearly. ...If you have a bachelor degree in any of the francophone universities in Cameroon, applying for a masters programme abroad becomes a problem. Courses are rarely recognise...See More
Abraham Johnson Batey Batey
Abraham Johnson Batey Batey I continue to say that, nothing will be harmonised and not at this critical political moment. President Biya will not want to entertain controversies now because, we shall give him that now, BIG TIME.
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Adamu Ntubu Shey
Adamu Ntubu Shey Look at a minister in my dear Fatherland...this a good source of samples for gerontological studies..
Akame Gerald
Akame Gerald Perfect...!!! One voice, one decision.
Ashu Brieldith Jr.
Ashu Brieldith Jr. That's good.. they've started the fight well,would they be able to resist the pressure till the end? Because the"Francophones "don't give up easily.
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Ngiebong Vanyn
Ngiebong Vanyn Yes yes yes
Winifred Fohtung
Winifred Fohtung Amen! kudos Sirs.
Solange Bate
Solange Bate For once we stood for what is right...kudos to the HODs
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Ernest Massa
Ernest Massa I hope it is not the harmonisation of Qui or Yes
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Nixon McNeilo
Nixon McNeilo Perfect.....
Fonkoua Roland Fonkoua
Fonkoua Roland Fonkoua For how long? Wait until some few are connered with with promises of fake promotions, u will see how they will start running like wild dogs
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Fonkoua Roland Fonkoua
Fonkoua Roland Fonkoua #Mark Bareta note #Abraham Johnson's comment. Am glad he is also against the so called harmonization
Pius Nsambe
Pius Nsambe This is not the first time they've attempted this harmonisation sham. They tried way back in 1982/83 but we came out on hot protest march in B'da and they bowed.
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Mbout John Nyah
Mbout John Nyah God bless them. They shouldn't stop til their goal of "no to harmonization of Anglophone universities" is achieved.
Che Eugene
Che Eugene What the heck does the minister think he's trying to do?
Tabe Lovlyn Tabe
Tabe Lovlyn Tabe Harmony begins with one language. As long as we have two languages, let us us have our separate systems. Anglophones MUST say NO to marginalisation. Anglophones keep suffering because many cannot speak french upon graduation. We are obliged to speak french meanwhile they francophones are not obliged to speak English. This is just the beginning.
Nong Conrad
Nong Conrad That's true and it's time to tell the world our own story
Leke Walter
Leke Walter That's the way to go brethren. I lend my 100% support for this noble course. La Republique is crazy. Always putting one on his nerves. Stupid fellows
Jum Amos
Jum Amos I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE VERIOUS HEAD OF DEPARTMENTS IN THE TWO STATE UNIVERSITIES FOR THEIR DECITION. GOD WILL ADD YOU MORE WISDOM AND WE ANGLOPHONES ARE BEHIND YOU. WELL MR ASHU THE PRESSURE OUR PEOPLE ARE PUTTING WILL LAST IF WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THEM.
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Epie Njume Herve
Epie Njume Herve All the European countries knows that Germany has the best system of education which has resulted toconcrete cementic growth of their economy. From the curriculum to what the thought in class. But the French, British, Portuguese. Russians and even the...See More
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Monique Kwachou
Monique Kwachou Just to correct this:
What was being done is not harmonisation. They were imposing francophone staff who are not bilingual on the universities.
These staff in turn instituted francophone ways in their departments without actual changes in school polic
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Peyechu Andrew
Peyechu Andrew They have divided and ruled us for long even in our houses.That time maybe coming to an end.
Bunji Antoinette
Bunji Antoinette I like that. This was almost done to the Engineering faculty too . Though they did not succeed, they still succeeded to send all anglophone lecturers to the ministry as researchers and punished the students with francophone lecturers who cannot speak english. I still dont know why the Nalova is not doing anything about it
Elvis Cheo
Elvis Cheo Unity is strength, No harmonization my Proffs.
Bih Emmanuella
Bih Emmanuella Oh my God I can feel bubbles of happiness in my stomach, it's as if I was there. Nonsense put all together make I here that their nonsense again. They send their kids to the US and England to study in English then want to selfishly take away the last opportunity from poor Cameroonians to study under a good educational system. Thanks Mark, feed us with more information. I am still hungry
Ntemfac Ofege
Ntemfac Ofege This is not harmonization, this is pure concolonisation: the colonisation of a colony by a colony. French Cameroun has NO RIGHT to annex Southern British Cameroons let alone attempting to force feed its corrupt sub culture on us. That is not happening and this is the last straw. This fellow, Fame Ndongo. All he thinks is tribalism.
Ndi Julius
Ndi Julius Firstly what are they harmonising ?
Dominic E. Ncho
Dominic E. Ncho Unity, integration, harmonization! All words used in their efforts to assimilate/marginalize anglophones. Rubbish!
Viban Jude
Viban Jude Harmonisation to me is an excellent idea. As long as the new system will be Cameroonian not francophone nor anglophone. It could be a chance to brandish our bilingual heritage to world
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