Re: [MTC Global] Building world-class universities in India

Good Morning! Respected fraternity,

World class institutes have to stand ahead of others by delivering consistently irrespective of the location.

We feel happy that when we find our ISB,IIM's,doing a great job.Partly it could be of people,but

systems and the best practices only takes the institute to the top.

If we look at the private universities have evolved into the top list by thier systematic efforts.

If we want to have world class follow best practices and put systems in place.Things will move

forward to the best,and add the peoples touch to it later.

People bring conflicts which will not deliver the desirable results,systems will be upgrading and delivering services

if designed properly.

Best regards,

 

Prasanna Balaji Narasingapuram                                                   (in short PB)

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On Friday, 24 June 2016 9:50 AM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

Well said. Great professors turn institute into World Class. Thus, World Class Institute revolves around great faculty having the following traits:

1. Best talent in the world.
2. Complete freedom or autonomy.
3. Responsible.

India needs to go a long way to achieve this.

From: Parameshwar P Iyer <piyeriisc@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:44:54
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Building world-class universities in India

Dear Professors,

You are all right in what you are saying. Actually, many of the world-wide Universities. Institute/ Colleges have been around for awhile, may be fifty to a hundred years, if not longer. As they say, Rome was not built in a day.

I am from the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, We are over a hundred years old (established in 1909). Though we are proud of our Indian (First) and Asian (Top 20) rankings, we are still a long way from being even in the Top 50 in the world. But we are working very hard at it; and probably stand the best chance of any Indian University/ Institute to make it there.

It is not just a matter of financial strength; otherwise the Microsofts and Motorolas and Siemens and General Electrics could have all best the best Institutes in the world; as could have the Tata, Birlas, Ambanis, and Narayana Moorthys in India.

I once had an interesting conversation with Professor C.N.R. Rao, Bharath Ratna and former Director of the Indian Institute of Science. I asked Professor Rao, who has built many great Institutions in India, "Sir, what does it take to build a great Institute?" Professor Rao's answer was very simple (perhaps too simple); he said, "Dr. Iyer, you need two things. One, you have to hire the very best talent that you can find, from anywhere in the world. And, two, you have to let them free. Responsible people, especially great Professor, know what is good for their Institutes, and what is good for them. Don't legislate and bureaucratize their work regimes".

Need I add anything more to what Professor Rao has said?

Regards.

Parameshwar P. Iyer

Prof Parameshwar P. Iyer, PhD (California), PRS
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 5:08 PM, kiran paranjpe <kdparanjpe@rediffmail.com> wrote:

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Dear Sir, the thoughts are very illuminating. He is right when he says that it is the
older public university that stands the greatest chance of being in the top 20 world
class.

A second point about quality and the budget being determined by the faculty is also very
relevant. This coupled with academic freedom imposes a great responsibility on the
faculty.

Thirdly, Philanthropic funding for setting up chairs for dedicated schools and bringing
in men of eminence is vital for the reputation of the University

We recognize powerful opposition from the other stakeholders notably the Govt, the
political groups, the students and the larger public to get the kind of cooperation to
fix these problems.
Cheers
K.PAranjpe

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:38:17 +0530 "Prof. Marmar Mukhopadhyay"
wrote
>Dear Prof. Dutta, 
Please find attached the full paper by  Prof. William Tierney on Indian Higher
Education. This was authored by Bill when he spent some months in the Centre for Policy
Research in Higher Education, NUEPA, New Delhi. Hope you will find the paper
interesting, 
Best wishes, 
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta wrote:
Dear Sir,Very Good Morning.It would be really great if we all can have the same in
MTC.Best Regards,Bholanath
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Prof. Marmar Mukhopadhyay
wrote:
I have the full paper from Bill (Prof. William Tierney).Would you be interested in the
full paper. Best
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta wrote:
William G TierneyUniversity professor and director of the Pullias Center for Higher
Education at the University of Southern California, USA. 

​The Indian government recently announced the desire to have 20 universities that are
ranked among the world's great universities. Although that goal is praiseworthy, the
ability to make the dream a reality seems far-fetched based on my experiences over the
past year doing research on higher education in India. Regardless of which rankings one
considers, a glut of universities in the United States always appear in the top 200. By
one measure, eight of the top 10, and 50 of the top 100 universities in the world are
from the US. The result is that other countries try to mimic what they think the
Americans are doing, but they learn the wrong lessons. India's plan is to have half of
the 20 world-class universities come from the private sector. The assumption seems to be
that private universities are among America's best institutions and that the small number
of new privates in India might be better situated to vault into the elite 200 than the
many older central and state universities. The American government also does not fully
fund all of its public universities; that is music to the ears of Indian politicians who
want to use public monies for other public services. Misleading interpretationsSuch an
interpretation of America's dominance in world-class rankings is a misreading of why
American universities continue to dominate league tables. Here are five ways to think
about American higher education that may be useful for helping India achieve its goals:
World-class universities are old: Of the top 200 universities in the world only one is
less than 50 years old. A handful of US universities are just over 50 years old, but most
have been around for much longer. However admirable some of India's new private
universities are, there is almost no chance that any will leap into the top 200 in the
next decade – and certainly 10 private universities won't. If India wants to break into
the upper echelon within 10 years it will be done by public universities or not at all.

World-class universities have strong vice-chancellors without term limits: Public and
private universities in the US have vice-chancellors who are largely chosen because of
their fundraising and intellectual prowess. They generally do not serve with term limits
and are not political appointees. At my own University of Southern California, I have had
two presidents in 22 years. The Board of Trustees, with faculty input, hired them. My
current president is raising US$7 billion over 10 years to strengthen our endowment.
India's vice-chancellors serve very short terms, are often political appointees, and
almost never raise significant amounts of capital from donors and philanthropists.

World-class universities have institutional autonomy: Strategic plans, hiring and tenure
determinations and budgeting decisions are made by the faculty and administrators of
America's best institutions. Deans and faculty researchers have a significant amount of
authority over their budgets. In India the ministry and the University Grants Commission
exert enormous oversight that disables any sense of institutional or individual autonomy.

World-class universities have significant discussions about academic quality: The
standards for tenure and promotion at premier American universities continue to rise. The
determination of the standards is set, and quality control is carried out, by the
faculty. Tenure is a process that ensures faculty rights, but also requires faculty
responsibilities. In India, discussions about quality, if they occur, take place on
national commissions, not within a university, and faculty appointments are seen as
government sinecures for life.

World-class universities see academic freedom as the central value of academic life:
Academic freedom is always debated and arguments about the limits of academic freedom
have swirled on American campuses for a century. The general precept is that faculty,
through the protection of tenure, has an obligation to ensure that a university's faculty
and students are able to speak what they desire, however controversial those statements
may be. In India, academic freedom is questioned by individuals inside and outside the
university and a chill on free speech on campus is evident. 
I raise these points not to suggest that India's post-secondary system should mindlessly
mimic America's. America's institutions have their own share of flaws and shortcomings
that need to be dealt with if they wish to maintain academic excellence and predominance
in international rankings. But if India wishes to have a handful of world-class
universities created within the next decade then it's impossible to have it both ways.
Public funding and philanthropic support must increase. We can't say we want academic
excellence and hamstring vice-chancellors or micro-manage from ministry offices or
overlook issues of quality control or create a climate where academics are unable to
speak truth to power. India certainly has the intellectual capacity to have dominant
universities, but significant structural reforms are necessary if that promise is to
become a reality.​

EDUCATE, EMPOWER, ELEVATE
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