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Re: [camnetwork] Re: [cameroon_politics] Re: Crise anglophone: Le Premier Ministre nomme un comité ad hoc chargé d’examiner et de proposer des solutions aux problèmes posés par les avocats

Very true. Independence can never be given on a platter of Gold. You take it just as we have started with the Coffin Revolution. In the past, we had nonfunctional governments declared by individuals. This time around, lets get a functional interim government declared and supported by the home front. This interim government will do the lobbying for support at Global, AU, ICJ and UN levels. The error in the past was individuals declaring governments and some going solo to UN. Even with the best legal argument, the Question UN normally asks is who are you representing? It should be bottom up process. Now it has started well. Let the Home front declare an interim government to lead the Buea Declaration II towards implementation. This, I am convinced  will work.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, tikum Azonga tmazonga@gmail.com [camnetwork] <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

TABONG KIMA, tell them!

On 29/12/2016, Tabong Kima bakebe1@msn.com [camnetwork]
<camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Mr. Awah,
>
> While I am with you that the option of total independence is the best, I do
> however disagree with the solution you have prescribed below. These are the
> kind of condescending solutions we do not need at this stage of the
> struggle. Do you seriously think that it is as easy as peacefully declaring
> to the world that the independence we were granted by the UN in 1961 will
> now be activated in 2016? Do you know how many times people have declared
> that independence and it never came to pass? Have you ever heard of
> Magistrate Ebong and Fon Dinka? Where did their declarations take us? I call
> your solutions starry-eyed because they are made under the presumption that
> Biya and his army are just going to fold their arms and let your proposed
> election and installation of Governors, Mayors, Houses of Assembly and
> Chiefs take place. Well, it may be, the sky will open, a light will shine
> from above and a choir made up of celestial bodies will sing to Mr Biya and
> a voice will thunder from above to him to let the Southern Cameroons go. Oh!
> I did not live back then in Egypt to see Pharaoh peacefully let the
> Israelites go. Or better still, you will wave a magic wand and this world
> that we will be peacefully declare our independence to, will become very
> perfect and there will be unanimous approval of our declaration.
>
>
> My friend, I chose to reply to your piece because Camnet is full of these
> magic-wand solutions. This is the precise moment to prepare the people for
> the burdens, sacrifices and hardships that will come with the declaration of
> independence. It cannot be made to appear so easy. I call it condescending
> because the people who will bear the burden are treated in your piece as
> children who cannot stand the truth of what is to come with such a choice.
> In my opinion, they can, so starry-eyed proposals like yours have the
> paradoxical effect of harming the cause. It will be an illusion of the
> century to believe that declarations and courts and even the UN will grant
> us independence without the sacrifices of blood to put it bluntly. Some have
> even put the future date of independence of Southern Cameroons independence
> as if all the necessary conditions are already in place for such a date to
> come to pass. Believe me, I have been there with the man I call the father
> of the Southern Cameroons Independence movement-Fon Dinka; I have watched
> him put forward the best irrefutable legal arguments to very high officials
> of the US Government and the UN and these legalities ended no where. I still
> have to live another hundred years to see independence handed to any people
> on a platter of gold or on starry-eyed wishes.
>
> Tabong Kima
>
> ________________________________
> From: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
> on behalf of Jean Batiste Sipa jbsipa@gmail.com [cameroon_politics]
> <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 12:36:59 PM
> To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Re: Crise anglophone: Le Premier Ministre
> nomme un comité ad hoc chargé d'examiner et de proposer des solutions aux
> problèmes posés par les avocats
>
>
>
> M. NTCHAPDA;
> Le Président du Comité que tu viens de publier s'appelle Jean Pierre
> FOGUI (et non FOGUE)
>
> 2016-12-26 18:01 UTC+01:00, Bens Awaah benawaah@hotmail.com
> [cameroon_politics] <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>:
>> Pa,
>>
>> 1. Let us:
>>
>>
>> Peacefully declare to the world that we are claiming our independence as
>> democratically granted by the UN on Ist October 1961!
>>
>> Begin the process of electing our own Prime Ministers
>>
>> Reinstitute our House of Assembly and elect our parliamentarians
>>
>> Reinstitute our House of Chiefs
>>
>> Elect our governors ( if we chose to call them such)
>>
>> Elect our mayors
>>
>> Rebuild our financial institutions
>>
>> Rebuild our academic institutions
>>
>> control our natural resources above and below ground
>>
>> Reconstruct and maintain our highways
>>
>> Rebuild our city streets.
>>
>> Negotiate better contracts for the rental and use of our real estate by
>> domestic and foreign industrialists
>>
>>
>> 2.
>>
>> Introduce a new currency and refuse to use the franc CFA
>>
>> Open serious trade relationships to our west
>>
>> Gradually stop doing business with anyone to our east
>>
>>
>> Do not fall for the federation thing because nothing will fundamentally
>> change under such arrangement. There should not be 100 spokespersons.
>> There
>> should be one message. Our forefathers failed to stick to one message and
>> demand. Let us not repeat the same mistake and expect a different result.
>>
>> Awaah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com
>> <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
>> on behalf of Pa Fru Ndeh PaFruNdeh@YAHOO.COM [cameroon_politics]
>> <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:16 PM
>> To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com; Cameroon Politics
>> Subject: [cameroon_politics] Re: Crise anglophone: Le Premier Ministre
>> nomme
>> un comité ad hoc chargé d'examiner et de proposer des solutions aux
>> problèmes posés par les avocats
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope the pre-requisite for any such meeting is that the
>> Gov't of the Republic of Cameroon release, unconditionally,
>> ALL persons of West Cameroon Extraction in the dungeons/jail cells
>> who were arrested during the recent "Coffin Revolution".
>>
>> In addition, it is largely in-necessary to have any meeting with a
>> TOOTHLESS BULLDOG Prime Minister.
>>
>> Thirdly, the PAAWCE is asking/telling Prime Minister Philemon Yang
>> that RATHER than creating some ad hoc, committee, the real problem
>> lies at the PRESIDENCY of Cameroon, that should institute the position
>> of VICE-PRESIDENT of The FEDERAL Republic of Cameroon, to
>> be occupied by a PAAWCE. That is the HEART/ROOT CAUSE of the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Blessed Be Cameroon
>> Pa Fru Ndeh
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: 'Greig Batey' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
>> To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Crise anglophone: Le Premier Ministre nomme un comité ad hoc
>> chargé d'examiner et de proposer des solutions aux problèmes posés par
>> les
>> avocats
>>
>> 1) Where and when is this ad hoc committee of the Prime minister
>> meeting?.
>> If out of BUEA or BAMENDA sorry Mr Prime minister.
>> 2) Same old tricks appointing your " Yes sir " civil servants of French
>> expression to come say what on the common law
>> 3) The strike leaders have a consortium and that group in its entirety
>> has
>> the mandate of the people of southern Cameroons to engage in any
>> meaningful
>> talks with your LRC government at any time in BUEA or BAMENDA.
>> When are you coming to BUEA or BAMENDA?. Don't bring Paul Atanga Nji.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: 'Pa Fru Ndeh' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
>> To: Cameroon Politics <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:56 PM
>> Subject: Crise anglophone: Le Premier Ministre nomme un comité ad hoc
>> chargé
>> d'examiner et de proposer des solutions aux problèmes posés par les
>> avocats
>>
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>> chargé d'examiner et de proposer des solutions aux problèmes posés par
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>> Philémon Yang, Premier Ministre Archives
>> Le Premier Ministre, Philemon Yang, a signé le 22 décembre 2016, un
>> arrêté
>> qui porte création, organisation et fonctionnement d'un comité ad hoc
>> chargé
>> d'examiner et de proposer des solutions aux préoccupations relatives au
>> fonctionnement de la justice soulevées par les avocats anglophones du
>> Cameroun.
>> Ce Comité est placé sous son autorité. C'est une plate-forme de dialogue
>> dont la mission principale est d'examiner les préoccupations des avocats
>> anglophones en vue d'y apporter des solutions appropriées. Le comité sera
>> assisté par un secrétariat qui va rédiger les rapports, les
>> comptes-rendus
>> et les procès-verbaux, conserver les archives et la documentation du
>> comité
>> et effectuera toute autre mission que lui confiera le comité.
>> Le Comité ad hoc est composé ainsi qu'il suit:
>> Président: Jean-Pierre Fogue, ministre délégué auprès du ministre de la
>> Justice
>> Membres:
>> Gwanmesia George, secrétaire général du Ministère de la Justice
>> Me Ngnié Kamga, bâtonnier de l'Ordre national des avocats
>> Me Nico Halle, président de l'Assemblée générale de l'Ordre des avocats
>> Me Assouombo Lucie, conseiller à la Cour Suprême
>> Me Etah Besong, ancien bâtonnier de l'ordre national des avocats
>> Me Harmony Bobga, avocat
>> Me Mbah Eric, avocat
>> Me Manda Rosaline, avocat
>> Me Ntoko Ebah Justice, avocat
>> Me Ngalle Miano, avocat
>> Me Kisito Dimkouba, avocet
>> Me Ndoki Dikoume Josué, avocat
>> Me Ntoumbe Soksè épouse Ngouah Njoh, avocat
>> Me Amah Zih Anthony Amah, avocat
>> Me Fokoué Fongang Joseph, président de la Cour d'appel de Maroua
>> Voici la composition du secrétariat technique:
>> Coordonnateur: Monsieur Le Procureur général près la Cour d'Appel du
>> Sud-Ouest
>> Membres:
>> -Tanyi Tiku Mbayé, attaché dans les services du Premier Ministre
>> -Le sous-directeur du suivi des avocats à la direction des professions
>> judiciaires au ministère de la justice
>> -Le chef de la division de la magistrature et des greffes de l'Enam
>> Auteur:
>> [http://www.cameroon-info.net/img/hpage/small/pierre_a_ntchapda_cin_01_thn_sqr_250.jpg]
>> Pierre Arnaud NTCHAPDA
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