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Re: [MTC Global] UGC ‘no’ to retired professors as guides a big setback for research, say experts

Sir, There is no need to restrict the guides. It is important now to distinguish between
a guide and the supervisor regarding their respective roles. Let us say, that a guide
should take the role of a friend, and philosopher. This is necessary to ensure absolute
dedication and integrity of the researcher for his subject. The Guide is someone who
knows the subject of the researcher better than most and can be a mentor and a motivator.
In multidisciplinary research it could well be that the researcher may need more than one
guide.In fact in doing so, a great deal of value may be created from the research.
Thus there should not be any restriction regarding this part of the research requirement.

On the other side is the supervisor. This person is like the reporting manager, a faculty
or an experienced researcher employed by the University. The supervisor is familiar with
the rules and regulations, the requirements for a degree in research articulated as per
the norms. Such a person ensures that all the formal requirements are met so that the
student may complete the degree. A supervisor need not be a specialist in the subject of
research but should be an expert in the rigorous application of the research methodology
to the research. The supervisor has to ensure that due rigor is followed by the
researcher. There need not be any restriction on the Supervisor regarding the number of
candidates supervised.

There is a real need to provide the much need research ambiance to a researcher in full
time and part time modes.
Best regards,
K.Paranjpe

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On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta wrote:
ALAPPUZHA: Toeing the line of the University Grants Commission (UGC), varsities in Kerala
are refusing to entertain the services of retired professors as research guides.

While the Central and State governments are exploring ways to strengthen higher
education, the UGC directive is set to affect the quality of research adversely, experts
aver. The commission says only regular professors of a university or affiliated colleges
can be recognised as research supervisors. External supervisors cannot be allowed, says
the notification issued in May 2016.

Before the year was out, Kerala University responded by terminating retired professors
from guiding research. MG University followed suit, explaining the termination of retired
teachers in an order issued on January 24 this year. "We have allowed existing guides to
go ahead with the present research. But we cannot allow new students to continue research
under retired teachers," says MG University Vice-Chancellor Babu Sebastian.

The decision has not gone down well with the state's academia."The expertise of a retired
teacher is an asset to the country," says M P Ajithkumar, associate professor, SD
College, Alappuzha.

"The new regulation is a setback to serious research and a dilution of academic
standards. Retired teachers assist research scholars without accepting remuneration. The
UGC and the Ministry of Human Resource Development should rethink the flawed decision."

Girish Kumar, a philosophy professor at MS University in Baroda, too demanded a
reconsideration.

"Decades-long research work moulds a teacher for new discoveries. His expertise should be
an asset to younger generations," he says.

While academics like K N Harilal, professor at the Centre for Development Studies, feel
universities should think about an alternative plan to utilise the skills of retired
teachers, current research guide and Kerala University History professor Suresh Jnaneswar
had this to say: "The UGC order is a termination of accumulated knowledge to the new
generation. After the implementation of the order, the chances of good research will
decline by 70 per cent. The maturity of a teacher attained at the age of 60 to 65 is
being wasted by terminating his talents at the age of 56.

A plagiarism test carried out by the Kerala University a few months ago found only 10 per
cent similarity in the dissertations submitted to the university in the past 20 years.
That is the kind of strong research happening with the guidance of senior professors."

When contacted by Express, joint secretary Sunita Siwach, coordination, UGC planning and
policy, declined to comment.

Source: Indian Express
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Re: [MTC Global] No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids

The two child policy has been in force for decades and was not created today.So why was no one listening?
And why should people who dont support Government policies be enjoying Government benefits? We have some of the best policies ever and if people dont co-operate because of oen reason or the other they have to pay a heavy price for it...
The  indirect impact is what is better for me: I hope it acts as deterrent for those bringing forth kids till that one precious son  is born be it after  three,five or 16 children.
And the impact of other laws that I sincerely hope will develop teeth: checking the gender of the child before birth and severe punishment to doctors who actively support child foeticide and punishment to whole households that support female infanticide-be it the grandmother or the father esp the grandmothers....


 
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Co.Re Foundation


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On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Gandhi A <professorgandhi.mba@gmail.com> wrote:
It is not fair to give retrospective effect for a legislation. Let them fix a cut off date.From now onward,any couple who give birth to more than 2 children may be affected by the new law .Here also, Govt can deny free education for the third child onwards.But denying Govt jobs is unconstitutional.


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids, free education for girls, says Assam's draft population policy.

Assam's Health Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma said that this is a draft population policy and that they have suggested that people having more than two children will not be eligible for any government jobs.

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Re: [MTC Global] Sparks fly at debate on Tamil Nadu NEET viability

My take is:

  1. There needs to be a proper coordination from primary to tertiary education.
  2. Work out the costs that the nation is incurring: parents expenses, expenses of the body conducting the tests, travel, coaching, etc.
  3. Coaching is a parallel economy in India and an important source of black money.
  4. The Test approach is not the appropriate approach for quality education. The symptom remedy is worse than than the disease.
  5. In mid80s there was neither GATE nor any other common tests. The seats for PG were distributed in proportion to the number of applications received from a university area. We had hardly any issue of quality education at least upto 30K.
  6. Coaching classes are producing robots that can hardly work informatively for national development.
  7. Those who can afford are found to be eligible for admission but this class is not even 1% of students-population. What about remaining 99% students? They are not useless but needs to be brought in the main flow for national prosperity.Adopt disruptive education policy.
  8. Diligent, discipline and determination are required to set the things right the first time.
  9. We have lost 72 years by experimenting on education with no fruitful outcome. Not a single Indian Institute could grab a position among 200 World Top Universities. Introspect seriously. Improve quality of education at all levels. CET, CAT, NEET, JEE, etc., can hardly help in this matter.
  10. Build the strong and healthy education systems, all problems will vanish at a click! Change mind set of public and educationists. else, we have seen over a dozen of Education Committees, NAAC, NBA, and host of other regulatory bodies but no avail. Do not treat the symptoms, attack  the disease.

Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
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From: Gandhi A mba@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 01 May 2017 09:55:17
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Sparks fly at debate on Tamil Nadu NEET viability
If we aim at excellence, aptitude and interest in a particulat discipline is a must.Mere marks scored somehow in +2 exams will surely not be a metric for this aptitude.
Why do we conduct CAT, JEE and many more such competitive tests?Only to ensure that the aspirants have the aptitude for that profession .

A candidate, without a liking,  or mental readiness to learn a particular course is pushed by peer pressure,parental decisions just because he/she has scored marks can not shine as a professional  though he/she may complete the degree.

If there is a filter at the time of admission,then we will end up with the best fit for the course.Now why do you think the surveys show the lowest employ ability of our students?Only because of the absence of an aptitude test.

So NEET sort of test is needed not only for medicine for every course, be it Engg, Arts, Commerce, Science, etc.

I agree with the opinion of Dr.Anbumani that our school education system has to be totally revamped and upgraded art par with CBSE syllabus.But who stopped Tamil Nadu Govt from upgrading the school education? We must do it on war footing basis.

If we accept this argument that our students don't get level playing filed, the same hold good for CAT, JEE, GMAT, UPSC ,NDA,IBPS and many such All India tests.

Can we tell the Government of India not to conduct these tests for Tamilnadu students and permit them easy entry?
So, what is needed is proactive action and not protective agenda.

Let us Design,compete,and Win.

Our children are capable to absorb .But our rulers , teachers, bureaucracy????
Gandhi 


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Amal Chaudhuri <amalendu.mba@gmail.com> wrote:
CHENNAI: The merits or otherwise of a countrywide National Eligibility cum Entrance Test (NEET) for admission to medical colleges has been a matter of dispute, but on a dull Sunday afternoon at the Chennai Trade Centrein Nandambakkam, the issue triggered a stormy debate.

Sparks flew as a panel of former Union health minister and MP Anbumani Ramadoss, former Madras high court judge D Hariprathanam and educationist Prince Gajendra Babu, all in favour of the Tamil Nadu government's opposition to NEET, emotionally countered arguments in favour of the test by former Anna University VC A Kalanithi, educationist T Rajagopalan and MCI member Dr L P Thangavelu.

When Justice Hariprathanam called the October 2002 TMA Pai Supreme Court judgment "the worst in 40 years" because "it laid the foundation for privatisation and increase in costs" of higher education, Rajagopalan stridently criticised his argument.

Anbumani said Tamil Nadu's samacheer kalvi syllabus was not of as high a grade as CBSE, so there was no basis for fair competition in the entrance test. Rural students and those who cannot afford coaching will be unable to crack NEET, he said.

"The justification of NEET is to improve the quality of doctors," Anbumani said. "[But] for that we need a bottom-up approach; the school syllabus has to be upgraded first. The current setup is top-down."

Imposing NEET on states like Tamil Nadu, he said, was akin to pushing an amputee to into a swimming competition.

Hariprathanam argued that NEET "would ensure that coaching centres replace educational institutions", and Gajendra Babu said NEET would rob a generation of the state's students of medical education.

Source: TOI

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Re: [MTC Global] No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids

Will somebody elaborate on:

  1. How denying Govt jobs is unconstitutional, if one has more than two children?
  2. Cut off date to be specified:  agree but it is the authority of law makers..
  3. , Govt can deny free education for the third child onwards: good suggestion but penalty is preferred.
  4. Such provisions are in national interests.
  5. Some advanced countries offer incentive to give birth to more than one child. Why? National interests.
Hegards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
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From: Gandhi A mba@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 01 May 2017 09:55:45
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids
It is not fair to give retrospective effect for a legislation. Let them fix a cut off date.From now onward,any couple who give birth to more than 2 children may be affected by the new law .Here also, Govt can deny free education for the third child onwards.But denying Govt jobs is unconstitutional.


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids, free education for girls, says Assam's draft population policy.

Assam's Health Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma said that this is a draft population policy and that they have suggested that people having more than two children will not be eligible for any government jobs.

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Re: [MTC Global] No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids

A cut off date is logical. But to deny the right to free and compulsory education to any child will be unconstitutional. Moreover to punish anyone (let alone a child) for the fault of another, is against all norms of justice. 

On 1 May 2017 at 09:06, Gandhi A <professorgandhi.mba@gmail.com> wrote:
It is not fair to give retrospective effect for a legislation. Let them fix a cut off date.From now onward,any couple who give birth to more than 2 children may be affected by the new law .Here also, Govt can deny free education for the third child onwards.But denying Govt jobs is unconstitutional.


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids, free education for girls, says Assam's draft population policy.

Assam's Health Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma said that this is a draft population policy and that they have suggested that people having more than two children will not be eligible for any government jobs.

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Re: [MTC Global] No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids

It is not fair to give retrospective effect for a legislation. Let them fix a cut off date.From now onward,any couple who give birth to more than 2 children may be affected by the new law .Here also, Govt can deny free education for the third child onwards.But denying Govt jobs is unconstitutional.


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids, free education for girls, says Assam's draft population policy.

Assam's Health Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma said that this is a draft population policy and that they have suggested that people having more than two children will not be eligible for any government jobs.

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Re: [MTC Global] Sparks fly at debate on Tamil Nadu NEET viability

If we aim at excellence, aptitude and interest in a particulat discipline is a must.Mere marks scored somehow in +2 exams will surely not be a metric for this aptitude.
Why do we conduct CAT, JEE and many more such competitive tests?Only to ensure that the aspirants have the aptitude for that profession .

A candidate, without a liking,  or mental readiness to learn a particular course is pushed by peer pressure,parental decisions just because he/she has scored marks can not shine as a professional  though he/she may complete the degree.

If there is a filter at the time of admission,then we will end up with the best fit for the course.Now why do you think the surveys show the lowest employ ability of our students?Only because of the absence of an aptitude test.

So NEET sort of test is needed not only for medicine for every course, be it Engg, Arts, Commerce, Science, etc.

I agree with the opinion of Dr.Anbumani that our school education system has to be totally revamped and upgraded art par with CBSE syllabus.But who stopped Tamil Nadu Govt from upgrading the school education? We must do it on war footing basis.

If we accept this argument that our students don't get level playing filed, the same hold good for CAT, JEE, GMAT, UPSC ,NDA,IBPS and many such All India tests.

Can we tell the Government of India not to conduct these tests for Tamilnadu students and permit them easy entry?
So, what is needed is proactive action and not protective agenda.

Let us Design,compete,and Win.

Our children are capable to absorb .But our rulers , teachers, bureaucracy????
Gandhi 


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Amal Chaudhuri <amalendu.mba@gmail.com> wrote:
CHENNAI: The merits or otherwise of a countrywide National Eligibility cum Entrance Test (NEET) for admission to medical colleges has been a matter of dispute, but on a dull Sunday afternoon at the Chennai Trade Centrein Nandambakkam, the issue triggered a stormy debate.

Sparks flew as a panel of former Union health minister and MP Anbumani Ramadoss, former Madras high court judge D Hariprathanam and educationist Prince Gajendra Babu, all in favour of the Tamil Nadu government's opposition to NEET, emotionally countered arguments in favour of the test by former Anna University VC A Kalanithi, educationist T Rajagopalan and MCI member Dr L P Thangavelu.

When Justice Hariprathanam called the October 2002 TMA Pai Supreme Court judgment "the worst in 40 years" because "it laid the foundation for privatisation and increase in costs" of higher education, Rajagopalan stridently criticised his argument.

Anbumani said Tamil Nadu's samacheer kalvi syllabus was not of as high a grade as CBSE, so there was no basis for fair competition in the entrance test. Rural students and those who cannot afford coaching will be unable to crack NEET, he said.

"The justification of NEET is to improve the quality of doctors," Anbumani said. "[But] for that we need a bottom-up approach; the school syllabus has to be upgraded first. The current setup is top-down."

Imposing NEET on states like Tamil Nadu, he said, was akin to pushing an amputee to into a swimming competition.

Hariprathanam argued that NEET "would ensure that coaching centres replace educational institutions", and Gajendra Babu said NEET would rob a generation of the state's students of medical education.

Source: TOI

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[MTC Global] Sparks fly at debate on Tamil Nadu NEET viability

CHENNAI: The merits or otherwise of a countrywide National Eligibility cum Entrance Test (NEET) for admission to medical colleges has been a matter of dispute, but on a dull Sunday afternoon at the Chennai Trade Centrein Nandambakkam, the issue triggered a stormy debate.

Sparks flew as a panel of former Union health minister and MP Anbumani Ramadoss, former Madras high court judge D Hariprathanam and educationist Prince Gajendra Babu, all in favour of the Tamil Nadu government's opposition to NEET, emotionally countered arguments in favour of the test by former Anna University VC A Kalanithi, educationist T Rajagopalan and MCI member Dr L P Thangavelu.

When Justice Hariprathanam called the October 2002 TMA Pai Supreme Court judgment "the worst in 40 years" because "it laid the foundation for privatisation and increase in costs" of higher education, Rajagopalan stridently criticised his argument.

Anbumani said Tamil Nadu's samacheer kalvi syllabus was not of as high a grade as CBSE, so there was no basis for fair competition in the entrance test. Rural students and those who cannot afford coaching will be unable to crack NEET, he said.

"The justification of NEET is to improve the quality of doctors," Anbumani said. "[But] for that we need a bottom-up approach; the school syllabus has to be upgraded first. The current setup is top-down."

Imposing NEET on states like Tamil Nadu, he said, was akin to pushing an amputee to into a swimming competition.

Hariprathanam argued that NEET "would ensure that coaching centres replace educational institutions", and Gajendra Babu said NEET would rob a generation of the state's students of medical education.

Source: TOI

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No govt jobs for those with more than 2 kids, free education for girls, says Assam's draft population policy.

Assam's Health Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma said that this is a draft population policy and that they have suggested that people having more than two children will not be eligible for any government jobs.

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Saturday, April 29, 2017

Re: [MTC Global] COMPARATIVE STUDY OF RANKING PARAMETERS: QS , TIMES, SANGHAI AND NIRF RANKINS

Thank you Prof. Dutta,

NIRF RANKING, INDIA looks better in criteria-vise.

SANGHAI RANKING seems to be beyond reach of Indian Institutions.

Teaching – the learning environment, should have been given more weight-age in Times ranking.


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On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:

COMPARATIVE STUDY OF RANKING PARAMETERS: QS , TIMES, SANGHAI AND NIRF RANKINS

 

Methodology of QS World University Rankings[16]

Indicator

Weighting

Elaboration

Academic peer review

·         40%

Based on an internal global academic survey

Faculty/Student ratio

·         20%

A measurement of teaching commitment

Citations per faculty

·         20%

A measurement of research impact

Employer reputation

·         10%

Based on a survey on graduate employers

International student ratio

·         5%

A measurement of the diversity of the student community

International staff ratio

·         5%

A measurement of the diversity of the academic staff

 

Times higher education ranking

 

Overall indicator

Individual indicator

Percentage weighting

Industry Income – innovation

·         Research income from industry (per academic staff)

·         2.5%

International diversity

·         Ratio of international to domestic staff

·         Ratio of international to domestic students

·         3%

·         2%

Teaching – the learning environment

·         Reputational survey (teaching)

·         PhDs awards per academic

·         Undergrad. admitted per academic

·         Income per academic

·         PhDs/undergraduate degrees awarded

·         15%

·         6%

·         4.5%

·         2.25%

·         2.25%

Research – volume, income and reputation

·         Reputational survey (research)

·         Research income (scaled)

·         Papers per research and academic staff

·         Public research income/ total research income

·         19.5%

·         5.25%

·         4.5%

·         0.75%

Citations – research influence

·         Citation impact (normalised average citation per paper)

·         32.5%

 

SANGHAI RANKING

ARWU methodology

Criterion

Indicator

Code

Weighting

Source

Quality of education

Alumni as Nobel laureates & Fields Medalists

Alumni

10%

Official websites of Nobel Laureates & Fields Medalists[Note 1]

Quality of faculty

Staff as Nobel Laureates & Fields Medalists

Highly cited researchers in 21 broad subject categories

Award

HiCi

20%

20%

Official websites of Nobel Laureates & Fields Medalists[Note 1]

Thomson Reuters' survey of highly cited researchers[Note 1]

Research output

Papers published in Nature and SciencePapers indexed in Science Citation Index-expanded and Social Science Citation Index

N&S

PUB

·         20%

·         20%

Citation index

Jump up^ Not applicable to institutions specialized in humanities and social sciences whose N&S scores are relocated to other indicators.

 

NIRF RANKING, INDIA

Engineering, management, pharmacy and architecture institutions

 

Parameters

Category A
institutions

Category B
institutions

Teaching, learning and resources (TLR)

0.30

0.30

Research, professional practice and collaborative performance (RPC)

0.30

0.20

Graduation outcome (GO)

0.15

0.25

Outreach and inclusivity (OI)

0.15

0.15

Perception (PR)

0.10

0.10

 

 

Universities and colleges

Parameters

Universities

Colleges

Teaching, learning and resources (TLR)

0.30

0.40

Research, productivity, impact and IPR (RPII)

0.40

0.20

Graduation outcome (GO)

0.05

0.15

Outreach and inclusivity (OI)

0.15

0.15

Perception (PR)

0.10

0.10

 




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