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Monday, July 31, 2017

Re: [cameroon_politics] Re:"Honorable Atemkeng" IN REACTION TO THE MUNZU vs TASSANG EXCHANGES

Dear Comrades,

I have followed the exchanges between Munzu Simon and Mishe Fon on the one hand and the people on the other hand. In my opinion it is not worthwhile for the obvious reason that Munzu and Fon are not uninformed. They are well informed about our case. Theirs is quite evidently a show of dishonesty driven by their longing for some form of compensation from our enemy, unfortunately at our expense. The duo, and others like them, should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Their intention, because it is the intention of those who planted them among us and pay their way, is to provoke us and to divert our attention from important issues so that as we wrangle, time works against us. The way these CPDM stooges work is this: they organize themselves and have one start something stupid; then the others start lending support to the idea with minor reservations; then finally they go supporting it very strongly. We cannot be too foolish not to understand this.

 I have read about Tassang owing Munzu an apology. Ironically this suggests that a patriot, who Tassang is, apologizes to this self-seeking traitor, who Munzu is, for his treasonable offenses. The provocation shouldn't be that much. Denis Atemking is unlikely to descend to the status of any of these traitors any soon. So it serves them no purpose trying to pick on a man who has not wavered at any turn along this journey home.  

 Having ignored their own consciences, they are now mired in the trappings of our oppressors' wishes. In the circumstance they have no moral standing to question the legitimacy of our leaders. By the time they took their PhDs they might also have been dishonest enough not to question the popular vote, or lack of it, that made Nelson Mandela, Robert Mugabe, Joshua Nkomo, Sam Nujoma, etc., etc. In our leaders we find the hand of God that has lead us thus far; it is that hand of God through them that will lead us through. So let none try to be dissuasive.

 We are in a revolution and are not going to present to any Munzus of Mishe Fons our democracy credentials. We do not owe it to them. The likes of Munzu and Fon are not with us, so they are against us. We have work to do and it is a waste of time if we continue talking to them. Kindly let's refocus.

Ngwa Ntonufor  


On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:58 PM, 'enmentan@yahoo.com' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear Mishe Fon, 
Who are the "You " referred to in your response to Mr . Denis Atemkeng? Given all you know Southern Cameroonians have gone through and are still enduring, what would you suggest as a Way forward for the dispossessed masses? Note that jumping into any ship because of its pilot is unhelpful.
Tatah Mentan 


On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Mishe Fon mishefon@yahoo.com [cameroon_politics]
 

Mr. sorry His excellency Atemkeng Denis

Let me start by congratulating you for your "appointment as Deputy SPEAKER of SCACUF House of Assembly" in their latest Internet government published via Facebook and WhatsApp Social Media. The adage "many are called but few are chosen" readily comes to mind.
I guess as "Speaker" you are already performing in that capacity given the very lenghty claptrap baloney and dismissive very condescending rejoinder to my "innocent" missive.

I am not here to seek favors or accolades from anyone. I have arrogated to myself the title of societal watch dog. You can distort my writings all you want but it will not obfuscate the truth. I was very careful in articulating that I found it strange for the Cameroon government to handle this Southern Cameroons problem in such a cavalier nonchalant manner which has led to the radicalization of erstwile passive figures. Mine was a cautionary missive and not gibberish or malarkey as you wanted your readers to ingurgitate. Simply put, I was praying for more civil exchanges to all of us to stop this attitude of popular vindictiveness and slaughtering the characters of those who espouse a different ideology from us. 

Unfortunately, that trend exist in this present "Fight". Dr. Munzu was a lecturer @ Y'de University and Visiting Professor at many other Universities before accepting a job at the United Nations. Even as a now retired International Civil Servant, he is still a Consultant because of his vaste expertise. It is regrettable therefore to see the amount of encomium and bestiary thrashy street insults that anyone because of free access to WhatsApp will throw with impunity at this man. He is a Southern Cameroonian just like you and myself and equally has a right to suggest a way forward. Let us stop the politics of personal destruction. You don't appreciate or support what the man is suggesting, for crying out loud, say so but don't crucify the guy. For crying out loud, you are now the "SCACUF's People's House Speaker". You have to start to "Comporter" yourself as a "Big Important newly "S"elected VIP Man" instead of engaging the Mishe Fons of this world.

As for me, just know that "Die Man No Dey Fear Beneng Ngrung". I have a Black Belt in Kung-Fu and Nambudo Karate. I have fought and died in Movies but I always bounce back with a new and ferocious alacrity. I fear no one BUT I respect everyone. You cannot intimidate me nor scare me into silence mode. I am my own person and I will defend anyone even you Atemkeng the "Excellence Honorable  Speaker of the Federal Ambazonian House of Assembly" if I found a cabal ganging up to ride rough shod on you unprovoked.

To try to paint me with a brush called "Those advocating for Dialogue or Federation or Subjugation" is total hogwash and an extreme height of deceit and hypocrisy because I never said any such thing. I might not be one of those pompous WhatsApp, Facebook noise making seeking for notice types (like some of you who have been compensated with Ministerial and Parliamentary appointments) BUT I am proud to report that I have contributed my fair share in this struggle. You cannot and are even incapable of scarring me with crazy and untruthful write-ups.

It is rather anazing how some of you push good people into radicalization. I am a roving encyclopedia of Cameroon History and I can unbundle facts that can torpedo what ever contraption you undertake. I choose deliberately to stay in my small corner and watch the various actors perform their part and exit the stage. The truth!! There are very many self-seeking opportunistic career driven hawks now pretending to be "Freedom Fighters". One simple example They are excited that SC now has a leader. Some call him President, others Prime Minister; he himself says he is Care taker Administrator (Chairman). 

Common now. Massa "Honorable" Atemkeng, you are the "S"elected Speaker of the SCACUF House of "S"elected Representatives under what form of Government again? I saw that your friend Dr Sussungi is now in charge of the Treasury Department and Minister of Economy and Statistics. Have you guys worked out the modalities of which currency to use in Southern Cameroons? Is it the Franc CFA, Dollar, Euro, Sterling, Cedi, Naira...etc. What time frames are we talking about here for the various protocols of convertibility, Banking Rules and protocols concerning the new currency? What about SC assetts monopolized and presently being bastardized by La republique? Will SC belong to Ecowas, CEMAC, Commonwealth, Arab League, Francophonie, or whatever regional nomenclature? What about border delimitations  as decreed by the UN, France and the United Kingdom? Have we established base-line protocols of understanding with (Nigeria, LRC, Guinee Equatoriale...our  immediate neighbors)? What about French interests in SC? Military Cooperation? Environmental policies of the new government, and much more. NO. Those will come at a later date. Let us just appoint a plethoric Government and the rest will take care of itself. With all due respects, have a wonderful weekend.

Mbang Nfor Mishe Fon
The Matrufon of Alamatu, Mankon
Southern Cameroonians in very good Standing



On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 3:15:46 AM EDT, 'Atemkeng Denis' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


REASONING WITH THE FEDERALISTS

The federalists, perhaps led by Dr. Munzu, tell us that they want dialogue; that the only way the Southern Cameroons can gain independence is through war, and they are so terrified of this prospect that they are forced to dialogue. He says in his reply to Tassang: "The independence of Southern Cameroons, if it is to be restored, will only be restored by war". And to support his claim of dialogue, he says: "The history of decolonisation is replete with examples of the coloniser dialoguing with the colonised to lift the colonial yoke on the latter." Did any dialogue happen before the final confrontation? Did any colonial master surrender merely through dialogue?
They mistakenly accuse advocates of independence of fearing dialogue. This is either a calculated error or a blatant lie. Advocates of independence have never feared or refused dialogue. They are the ones who have been calling for dialogue even before the Banjul ruling calling for constructive dialogue. They only hold that dialogue, to have any meaning, must occur under certain conditions. Those conditions include the fact that it must hold under international and neutral auspices; that it must include those liberation movements that took Republique du Cameroun to Banjul, the ruling of which called for constructive dialogue; that all issues must be on the table; that it must hold on neutral ground and not in any placed controlled by La Republique. The purpose of these demands is clear to every right-thinking person. It is to ensure that the dialogue is not a dialogue between master and servant; that it allows both sides to fully present their case; that no intimidation or complicity takes place. All of these things will occur if you hold any dialogue unconditionally, whose terms will be dictated by the occupier.
The federalists on the other hand, claim that there should be no preconditions for dialogue and no anticipated outcome either. So we should not prejudge the outcome. What magnificent reasoning! He says in his reply to Tassang: "All that the ADF is advocating is that a national dialogue on the Anglophone problem or crisis should be held, without prescribing the outcome of the dialogue." "I happen to believe staunchly that "this failed union can work" and that we can sit down in a national dialogue and determine how to make it work".
When the federalists say Southern Cameroons can gain independence only through war, what do they mean?
1.     It means that Federalists will never challenge Republique's pretended sovereignty over the Southern Cameroons; they will never question the illegal occupation; they will never question the ongoing armed robbery. Why? Because they say Republique has a gun to their head and they are afraid of death; because this will be the cause of war, which they dread so much!
2.     It means that the outcome of the dialogue has already been predetermined, contrary to the claims of Dr. Munzu: it will never lead to independence; independence is excluded as an outcome.
3.     It will be a dialogue between master and servant, since federalists don't impose the same conditions for dialogue as nationalists do; therefore inevitably Republique will impose its terms.
4.     La Republique has been given a joker, a nuclear deterrent, that it can always brandish to make the federalists accept any conditions they impose: war.
5.     Since federalists will be negotiating from a position of impotence and fear of war, there is no reason for Republique to concede anything, and no way for the federalists to walk out! Walking out amounts to choosing independence, which they say requires war. Whatever Republique presumably gives away, will only be another route to get everything back later.
6.     If the dialogue will never lead to independence, it follows that it will never address the fundamental grievance of the illegal occupation of the Southern Cameroons by Republique du Cameroun. So again, the federalists are telling us that our main grievance will not be on the agenda of their dialogue.
7.     Dialogue is supposed to be a give and take. In the circumstance of the nuclear deterrent given to Republique by the federalists (their absolute fear of war), what federalists call dialogue is simply a camouflage; a pretence, not dialogue at all. No dialogue can take place under absolute fear or where one party has a gun pointing to the head of the other; where one party is threatening the other with war.
8.     It also follows that the federalists have absolutely no means of making Republique accept any condition that is against Republique's interest: the dialogue therefore is simply for the purpose of another surrender to Republique du Cameroun! Why surrender?  Because since the federalists have told Republique that they are so terrified of the prospect of war that they will not dare Republique, there is absolutely no reason for Republique to compromise. Why should an armed robber give up his booty if the owner is so terrified of confronting him that he is prepared to run away at the first gun shot?
9.     It also follows that because of the permanent threat of war as a means of cowing down the federalists, the federalists will be living completely at the mercy of Republique du Cameroun. Repubique can change the rules or reverse them any day it pleases, because it presents something the federalists dare not confront: war! War brandished by Republique du Cameroun is like the deterrent of an atomic weapon! No one dares face it. Federalists are therefore condemned to live a life of fear, complaints and subordination, all for the fear of war! They dare not challenge Republique's theft of our territory; its armed robbery against us! Not only they themselves, but their progeny will also live this life of fear. Why? Because every born Southern Cameroonian will sooner or later see his unacceptable conditions of life.
10.                        I have explained it over and over in my previous writings: there is no one-Cameroon formula, federation or otherwise, in which Southern Cameroonians can fulfil the purpose of human life: be happy. We are dealing with a game of numbers, not something that can be cured by good laws. For every one Southern Cameroonian student in class, there will be 30 Francophones; for every plot a Southern Cameroonian buys, Francophones would have bought 50! Your culture, language, education and everything will die, irreversibly! Southern Cameroonians, in any one Cameroon, will never have a place they can call their own! The one-Cameroon formula is a formula for cultural genocide, inevitably. Tafawa Belawa, Dr. Endeley and many others predicted this, but Foncha and those living in this illusion said they believed in one Cameroon; it has been hell on earth for us.
11.                        The federalists want to take us down this road which Foncha has taken us down before; a road that has never succeeded in Africa! For 56 years we have lived a life of torture, brutality and complaints. Many of us do not see the destruction this life causes to the spirit, but it does. Foncha was a die-hard federalist, like those who speak of federation today, but he died a very dejected person. Why do we not learn from his experience? Why do others believe that their faith in one Cameroon is greater than that of Foncha, who however died in frustration? Should we not do better than him? Happiness will not be produced by faith, but by the laws of nature, which have put these two peoples apart, not together. The daily and constant frictions are serious warnings not to be ignored. It will even be worse if after this struggle, we descend again to this hell. Many are already living in exile; they will die in exile. Ok. If the federalists refuse to depend on Foncha's experience, why not take the experience of other attempts at federation in Africa: Burundi-Rwanda, failed; Rhodesia-Nyasaland, failed; Libya-Egypt, failed, Senegambia, failed; etc.
12.                        Federalists! People leading us into a cultural genocide! These are people living in illusions. If, God forbid, we sign any federation with Republique, we lose every protection that we now have under international law: we can never again quote Res. 1608 (XV); 1514, 1541 or Article 102 of the UN Charter. No one will ever listen to us again!
13.                        Our struggle is not for one year or 50 years or 100 but for a life of freedom in eternity. Are we the first to go to war for freedom? Nearly every country on earth had to face the coloniser to be free. Even Africa did. Have the federalists ever asked themselves why other countries were prepared to die for freedom? Or don't we know what freedom is? We are going round the world begging support, from who? From countries that accepted war so that they could free themselves from subjugation and live a life of happiness on their own terms. If this is the way all peoples must go, why are federalists frightening us? Federalists should not deceive us with fear to surrender and live a life that has no happiness in it. I have never heard the doctrine that we should now surrender everything we have to armed robbers because we are too afraid they will kill us. I hear it only from Southern Cameroonians federalists. No matter how weak a true owner is, he will shout to the top of his voice for good neighbours to help him. He never simply surrenders out of fear.
14.                        Let me ask them: if their Republique were attacked and they were asked to go to war, would they go? Would the federalists go to war for Republique? It turns out that so-called federalists are simply thoroughly colonised and brainwashed people: they feel for their Republique, but not for their own nation, the Southern Cameroons! The transfer of allegiance, which is the purpose of the illegal occupation, has been completed with them!
15.                        No federalist has answered this question for me: why should the fate of the Southern Cameroons and La Republique be linked at all? Is it just out of impotence to challenge the illegal occupation that we are suing for peace and begging for Republique to tolerate us at any cost? Why will they not say we are the ones forcing ourselves on them, given the so-called federalists? Would they insist on dialogue if they had the power to take back our territory?
 
16.                        Fear of war is not a virtue; it is cowardice and does not lead to freedom, but servitude! It is said that if you want peace, prepare for war. These are people, including Munzu, who led the Southern Cameroons to the independence option through the Bamenda Proclamation. Then when the people accept the independence option, they abandoned the people; they backtracked and are now preaching unconditional surrender! Would you call that treachery? They would argue that we have not asked the people what they want!!!
17.                        Here is Republique threatening to go to war for something that is not its own. The true owner is so frightened by this threat that he starts announcing his intention to surrender. Let us therefore ask: what exactly are federalists prepared to fight for; what are they prepared to die for? Need we remind them that the Africa we live in today was won by war and blood?
18.                        They speak of federation. Republique neither knows the concept of federation nor the concept of freedom. Federation will forever be for Republique du Cameroun only a stepping stone to taking over our own space of existence; it will be always a mechanism to colonise and destroy us. They showed this in 1961, and have persisted in this pattern for 56 years. Here we are falling in the same trap.
19.                        The best option for federalists, if they fear war so much, would be to argue for a referendum. Why are they not calling for a referendum in the Southern Cameroons since they doubt what our people want? They should devote themselves to working for a referendum so that their dreaded war will never occur. Ah! But how will Republique accept a referendum knowing fully well that it needs only to confront you with the prospect of a war for you to surrender? You have ruled out the option of a referendum by announcing your unwillingness to fight for what is yours, so the enemy need concede nothing, not even a referendum!
20.                        Yes, we accept dialogue, but not the dialogue of federalists, which is unconditional. The conditions for dialogue must be met for it to have any meaning to us, nationalists. Unfortunately, they call nationalists, "separatists"! We are not separating from Republique. We are asking Republique to withdraw from our territory to its own.
21.                        My People: we have not deceived our people as some insinuate. We have repeatedly told our people that a final confrontation with evil, with colonisation, is inevitable. Why? Because colonisation lives only on violence, intimidation, lies, deceit. We know it too well. It is the work of the devil and must only be defeated. People of Southern Cameroons, we must do what every other people have done to be free. There is no running away from it. We shall overcome and be free, in a sovereign Southern Cameroons.
Atemnkeng.
 


On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:31 AM, 'Samuel Laikenjoh' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Misheard Fon, you heard Denis very well. No one could have said it better. 
If anyone had to question Tassang's legitimacy it should not be Munzu. When they led the scnc how did they get that mandate? 
Now that he is rallying people for dialogue with la rep du cameroun who has also given him that mandate? 
Blackmail should not be used as an instrument to derail a legitimate fight. 
The very children you people care for very much are languishing in jail for asking for dialogue or do you think Agbor Balla, Dr Fontem and a host of others are not peoples children? 
Relocate to the enemies' territory and leave us alone in our madness. 
If you want to test legitimacy let Munzu and Tassang mount the soap box in the southern Cameroons to preach dialogue with the devil and separation and see who will leave the arena with a bloody nose. 
That's my litmus test of legitimacy. 


On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 14:59, 'Pa Fru Ndeh' via ambasbay
Dear Mishe Lucas Fon,

I hope Sir Denis Atemkeng's panoply of responses provides clarity.
Please go ye now and evangelize, even to doubting Thomases the liberation of the 
Occupied Territories of Southern Cameroons using the clarity of the responses below.
 
Blessed Be Southern Cameroons
Pa Fru Ndeh



From: 'Atemkeng Denis' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: IN REACTION TO THE MUNZU vs TASSANG EXCHANGES

Dear Mishe Fon,

I read your "Reaction to MUNZU Vs TASSANG EXCHANGES", and I must say I could see through the sophistry and intellectualism that is most likely to destroy us. And it is most unfortunate that it should show its head at this critical time when common sense, wisdom is needed.

1.       You say Mr. Tassang owes Munzu an apology? For what? You confuse Mr. Tassang's indignation for anger! Every true Southern Cameroonian would be indignant at those who take advantage of our situation of weakness to side with the enemy. Let me remind you that in a sovereign state, Munzu would be in prison for taking sides with the enemy when his country is so mercilessly subjugated. We are at war, and no  country tolerates its own citizens or for that much, any person on its territory supporting the enemy or sowing weaknesses at such critical times. Now, you think we have no means of silencing those working, directly or indirectly, for the enemy and so you say whatever you like. Could you take sides with the enemy in Republique if it were under attack as we are?  Check your history books and see how all countries have treated traitors, and even those remotely suspected to be sympathetic to the enemy.
 
2.       I noted your claim that none of us is legitimate, because not elected by the people, and so everyone can say and do what they like. "None of us Southern Cameroonians can claim legitimacy emanating from people sovereignty". If anyone is interested in legitimacy that comes from the people, at this juncture in our history, like perhaps Munzu, why then not embark on the process of getting that legitimacy first? Or is everyone happy that it is a free for all, and no one can be held accountable for their ideas, at this point in our struggle?

My Dear Brother, NATIONALISM, which calls forth the supreme sacrifice that some have already made by giving up their lives, is not a product of polling or popular legitimacy. IT IS A FEELING born from nobility of spirit! That feeling is not equal in all citizens, because it is received from higher spheres! There are some so low and depraved humans who would roast their plantains in the fire burning down their own nation; there are some who would sell their own country and people for 500frs; there are some who would betray their own people at their greatest hour of need, like Judas betrayed the Master. Even as our blood boils for the Southern Cameroons, these low spirits do not notice what is going on! Are these the kind you expect to give legitimacy to our nationalism? Are they? Is Mr. Munzu one of them? Are these the kind you dare compare nationalists with? The spirit of NATIONALISM stirring in some Southern Cameroonians at this hour, leaves your referendum and polling in the dust! How many countries do you know that relied on your popular legitimacy in their greatest hour of need? Slaves were not freed by elected people, but by the humanism in those who could not accept the subjugation of man by man. And so it is with the Southern Cameroons case!

3.       That you agree with MUNZU that "since no known referendum or public polling has been conducted in Southern Cameroons, those who have voluntarily occupied leadership positions cannot dictate what they think "We the people" want.

I respectfully and strongly disagree with you.  Only the low beings I described above do not know what our people want or expect that only through a poll and referendum can it be known.  How can they know when they reason upside down? Let me proclaim it again: Our people want freedom from illegal occupation; they want to live under their own laws, sing their own anthem, fly their own flag. They don't want to live under subjugation and slavery to a foreign country.  Does it require a poll or a referendum to determine this? And if you ask why they should not allow themselves to be ruled by Republique, I answer you that the same tokens by which Republique is sovereign are exactly the same that give us the right to govern ourselves. If there are some who, for fear of war or like animals that want to feed where they are tied, say they prefer to remain in bondage and subjugation, perhaps simply because they have no notion of what "a people" means, or because they can speak French, or because they have a job, would you say they represent our people, at this point in their history? You know, when slaves were set free, some feared to be free, because they would miss the free food they were having from their slave masters! Are these the kind that know what "we, the people want?"

4.        You also, indirectly, ask why it is the school children that should suffer or bear the brunt of the struggle, since you say other professions go to work, and the children of Southern Cameroonians who are not inside the Southern Cameroons go to school. Why should it be them?

In liberation struggles, there are no equations for sacrifices! Have some not already paid with their lives? Families have lost their bread winners; their sons, daughters, mothers, husbands, friends, etc. How is that compared to children staying home for some time for the sake of their own future and country? He who risks nothing, gets nothing. We shall all not pay the same sacrifice for our freedom, mark that. Think of those in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Would you like to ask why they paid the heaviest price for Japan to surrender in WWII? Perhaps some of us do not know why we want the schools to stay closed: it is the biggest announcement made to the world about the armed robbery of Republique du Cameroun against the people of the Southern Cameroons.

You say Biya does not care whether schools open or not. He cares only about the oil. So why have they been struggling to keep schools open? You got it all wrong! You must judge which of our actions hurts them most by their response to it. All the struggle to keep schools open is not because they love our children. It is because it keeps the publicity about our case in the public eye!   Because shutting down schools is permanent news to the world about the Southern Cameroons problem, a problem they have been struggling to hide for half a century. Let me also tell you that in the war effort for the survival of a people, schools count for nothing! Check your history books again.

5.       I am free to decide whether I want subjugation, Federation or independence.

I guess you call this expressing your opinion! That is the height of stupidity. In all this show of cleverness, do you refer one moment to any rules, law or principles that mankind has given itself?  The world bans subjugation and calls it a crime against humanity. Then those who have no humanity in themselves, and therefore are mere animals in human form, say they want it! Ah! Reason, you can kill us! As I explained above, not all slaves want to be free. For those who say they have no humanity in themselves, and therefore prefer subjugation, let them distance themselves from human beings who want to be free. By that alone, they ask humans to lead and guide them! No country and no people want subjugation, and that has been the eternal cause of wars and emergence of sovereign states. Yet, here in our Southern Cameroons, they rise to the podium to say "I am free to decide whether I want subjugation"! Those who want to remain slaves MUST NOT, because of the free for all situation at this point, try to make everyone like themselves. They would be degrading human beings to their own level. Of course, in the nature of things, slaves always want to make other slaves like themselves; thieves to make other thieves; smokers to make other smokers.  Those who do not want to be free have a beautiful option: they should migrate to Republique du Cameroun and become citizens there or perhaps the slaves they want to be. Why then do they want to derail those who want to be free? Can Mr. Mishe Fon tell us? Can Mr. Munzu tell us? Abandon the Southern Cameroons to those who do not want a life of subjugation to Republique du Cameroun and go and live in the freedom or slavery you see in Republique!

I would like the federalists, from their beautiful reasoning to answer me:
By what miracle would those who are talking of federation ever get Republique du Cameroun to respect any agreement they reach with that country? By what miracle? They have never respected a single agreement made concerning the Southern Cameroons. They have an incurable disease to subjugate and enslave the Southern Cameroons. Have you found the medicine to cure that? And if they break the agreement, what do you do? Start crying again? Who would hear you, now that you have abandoned all the protection you had under international law?

In any federation, you would have a federal government and federal parliament. You will have no voice in these institutions. What would you do any day they decide to scrap the federation or invade your territory as they did in 1972, despite Article 47 of their federal constitution? What would you do?

Show us one federation in Africa, between two completely different peoples and international territories, that has worked. Go back in history and see how many federations have been tried in Africa, none of which worked and then tell us what would make your own work. They say experience is the best teacher, but here are people going where no experience has worked!

The Banjul ruling called for constructive dialogue between the parties. Should any dialogue not be between the parties to that case, which include the liberation movements that took the matter to Banjul? Should any dialogue not take place under international auspices as has been repeated time and again? Slaves who believe they can rise and sit on the table on equal footing with the master and talk on equal footing! Without the international community, how would Southern Cameroons even manage to negotiate on equal terms? Or for Munzu and his likes, the dialogue is not about negotiating on equal terms but surrendering anew to Republique?

Dear Mishe Fon,
Let me not waste too much of my time. I assure you this:  Human  history has a course that no one can change- it goes ever towards greater freedom and justice. And so I can proclaim from roof tops that the Southern Cameroons will be free, despite the Munzus and all the clever talk! Even war that Munzu fears will not stop us from being free. Are we the first to go to war? Even Hitler could not kill everyone. Don't frighten anyone with war as a way of pleasing Republique du Cameroun or deceiving your own people.

Please send this article to those who had the BBQ with you so they may be reassured.
Atemnkeng.


On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:55 AM, 'Atemkeng Denis' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Dear Mishe Fon,

I read your "Reaction to MUNZU Vs TASSANG EXCHANGES", and I must say I could see through the sophistry and intellectualism that is most likely to destroy us. And it is most unfortunate that it should show its head at this critical time when common sense, wisdom is needed.

1.       You say Mr. Tassang owes Munzu an apology? For what? You confuse Mr. Tassang's indignation for anger! Every true Southern Cameroonian would be indignant at those who take advantage of our situation of weakness to side with the enemy. Let me remind you that in a sovereign state, Munzu would be in prison for taking sides with the enemy when his country is so mercilessly subjugated. We are at war, and no  country tolerates its own citizens or for that much, any person on its territory supporting the enemy or sowing weaknesses at such critical times. Now, you think we have no means of silencing those working, directly or indirectly, for the enemy and so you say whatever you like. Could you take sides with the enemy in Republique if it were under attack as we are?  Check your history books and see how all countries have treated traitors, and even those remotely suspected to be sympathetic to the enemy.
 
2.       I noted your claim that none of us is legitimate, because not elected by the people, and so everyone can say and do what they like. "None of us Southern Cameroonians can claim legitimacy emanating from people sovereignty". If anyone is interested in legitimacy that comes from the people, at this juncture in our history, like perhaps Munzu, why then not embark on the process of getting that legitimacy first? Or is everyone happy that it is a free for all, and no one can be held accountable for their ideas, at this point in our struggle?

My Dear Brother, NATIONALISM, which calls forth the supreme sacrifice that some have already made by giving up their lives, is not a product of polling or popular legitimacy. IT IS A FEELING born from nobility of spirit! That feeling is not equal in all citizens, because it is received from higher spheres! There are some so low and depraved humans who would roast their plantains in the fire burning down their own nation; there are some who would sell their own country and people for 500frs; there are some who would betray their own people at their greatest hour of need, like Judas betrayed the Master. Even as our blood boils for the Southern Cameroons, these low spirits do not notice what is going on! Are these the kind you expect to give legitimacy to our nationalism? Are they? Is Mr. Munzu one of them? Are these the kind you dare compare nationalists with? The spirit of NATIONALISM stirring in some Southern Cameroonians at this hour, leaves your referendum and polling in the dust! How many countries do you know that relied on your popular legitimacy in their greatest hour of need? Slaves were not freed by elected people, but by the humanism in those who could not accept the subjugation of man by man. And so it is with the Southern Cameroons case!

3.       That you agree with MUNZU that "since no known referendum or public polling has been conducted in Southern Cameroons, those who have voluntarily occupied leadership positions cannot dictate what they think "We the people" want.

I respectfully and strongly disagree with you.  Only the low beings I described above do not know what our people want or expect that only through a poll and referendum can it be known.  How can they know when they reason upside down? Let me proclaim it again: Our people want freedom from illegal occupation; they want to live under their own laws, sing their own anthem, fly their own flag. They don't want to live under subjugation and slavery to a foreign country.  Does it require a poll or a referendum to determine this? And if you ask why they should not allow themselves to be ruled by Republique, I answer you that the same tokens by which Republique is sovereign are exactly the same that give us the right to govern ourselves. If there are some who, for fear of war or like animals that want to feed where they are tied, say they prefer to remain in bondage and subjugation, perhaps simply because they have no notion of what "a people" means, or because they can speak French, or because they have a job, would you say they represent our people, at this point in their history? You know, when slaves were set free, some feared to be free, because they would miss the free food they were having from their slave masters! Are these the kind that know what "we, the people want?"

4.        You also, indirectly, ask why it is the school children that should suffer or bear the brunt of the struggle, since you say other professions go to work, and the children of Southern Cameroonians who are not inside the Southern Cameroons go to school. Why should it be them?

In liberation struggles, there are no equations for sacrifices! Have some not already paid with their lives? Families have lost their bread winners; their sons, daughters, mothers, husbands, friends, etc. How is that compared to children staying home for some time for the sake of their own future and country? He who risks nothing, gets nothing. We shall all not pay the same sacrifice for our freedom, mark that. Think of those in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Would you like to ask why they paid the heaviest price for Japan to surrender in WWII? Perhaps some of us do not know why we want the schools to stay closed: it is the biggest announcement made to the world about the armed robbery of Republique du Cameroun against the people of the Southern Cameroons.

You say Biya does not care whether schools open or not. He cares only about the oil. So why have they been struggling to keep schools open? You got it all wrong! You must judge which of our actions hurts them most by their response to it. All the struggle to keep schools open is not because they love our children. It is because it keeps the publicity about our case in the public eye!   Because shutting down schools is permanent news to the world about the Southern Cameroons problem, a problem they have been struggling to hide for half a century. Let me also tell you that in the war effort for the survival of a people, schools count for nothing! Check your history books again.

5.       I am free to decide whether I want subjugation, Federation or independence.

I guess you call this expressing your opinion! That is the height of stupidity. In all this show of cleverness, do you refer one moment to any rules, law or principles that mankind has given itself?  The world bans subjugation and calls it a crime against humanity. Then those who have no humanity in themselves, and therefore are mere animals in human form, say they want it! Ah! Reason, you can kill us! As I explained above, not all slaves want to be free. For those who say they have no humanity in themselves, and therefore prefer subjugation, let them distance themselves from human beings who want to be free. By that alone, they ask humans to lead and guide them! No country and no people want subjugation, and that has been the eternal cause of wars and emergence of sovereign states. Yet, here in our Southern Cameroons, they rise to the podium to say "I am free to decide whether I want subjugation"! Those who want to remain slaves MUST NOT, because of the free for all situation at this point, try to make everyone like themselves. They would be degrading human beings to their own level. Of course, in the nature of things, slaves always want to make other slaves like themselves; thieves to make other thieves; smokers to make other smokers.  Those who do not want to be free have a beautiful option: they should migrate to Republique du Cameroun and become citizens there or perhaps the slaves they want to be. Why then do they want to derail those who want to be free? Can Mr. Mishe Fon tell us? Can Mr. Munzu tell us? Abandon the Southern Cameroons to those who do not want a life of subjugation to Republique du Cameroun and go and live in the freedom or slavery you see in Republique!

I would like the federalists, from their beautiful reasoning to answer me:
By what miracle would those who are talking of federation ever get Republique du Cameroun to respect any agreement they reach with that country? By what miracle? They have never respected a single agreement made concerning the Southern Cameroons. They have an incurable disease to subjugate and enslave the Southern Cameroons. Have you found the medicine to cure that? And if they break the agreement, what do you do? Start crying again? Who would hear you, now that you have abandoned all the protection you had under international law?

In any federation, you would have a federal government and federal parliament. You will have no voice in these institutions. What would you do any day they decide to scrap the federation or invade your territory as they did in 1972, despite Article 47 of their federal constitution? What would you do?

Show us one federation in Africa, between two completely different peoples and international territories, that has worked. Go back in history and see how many federations have been tried in Africa, none of which worked and then tell us what would make your own work. They say experience is the best teacher, but here are people going where no experience has worked!

The Banjul ruling called for constructive dialogue between the parties. Should any dialogue not be between the parties to that case, which include the liberation movements that took the matter to Banjul? Should any dialogue not take place under international auspices as has been repeated time and again? Slaves who believe they can rise and sit on the table on equal footing with the master and talk on equal footing! Without the international community, how would Southern Cameroons even manage to negotiate on equal terms? Or for Munzu and his likes, the dialogue is not about negotiating on equal terms but surrendering anew to Republique?

Dear Mishe Fon,
Let me not waste too much of my time. I assure you this:  Human  history has a course that no one can change- it goes ever towards greater freedom and justice. And so I can proclaim from roof tops that the Southern Cameroons will be free, despite the Munzus and all the clever talk! Even war that Munzu fears will not stop us from being free. Are we the first to go to war? Even Hitler could not kill everyone. Don't frighten anyone with war as a way of pleasing Republique du Cameroun or deceiving your own people.

Please send this article to those who had the BBQ with you so they may be reassured.
Atemnkeng.


On Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:21 PM, 'Ajong Stanislaus' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:


My warmest regards to the person of Mr Mishe Fon.
Please, can I forward this message of yours to some fora where you don't belong?
I shall do well to acknowledge the authorship. 
Thanks in advance for your response. 
Ajong Stanislaus 
Barrister  & Solicitor 
Tiko.


On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:58 AM, 'Mishe Fon' via ambasbay
Where I come from, we are cultured by personal rules of decorum that prohibit the usage of scurrilous and peremptory language in public discourse. I am giving my opinion as a simple freethinker and a Southern Cameroonian in very good standing.

For the sake of full disclosure; I was invited to a meeting at Sister "Peh's" beautiful house in Largo, MD by Mr Ebini to welcome Dr Munzu sometime last year where he presented the project he is embarking on right now. That was way before the present crisis evolved to where it is right now in SC ( I will come back to this meeting later).
Suffice to say, his presentation was well articulated and delivered in the soft tone that he is known for...until Mr Larry Eyong (who attended with a SCNC delegation) asked to speak. His disruptive condescending tone and incivility which could rightly be equated to that of an angry, very violently truculent character almost brought the erstwhile interesting exchanges to an abrupt halt. He and his delegation were politely asked to leave as that was a private residence and his anger was totally misdirected.

Now back to the Munzu Vs Tasang exchange. Personally I don't understand Cameroon government rationale for detaining individuals they were having a "Dialogue" with. It makes no sense. Not only that, these gentlemen are tried in a Military Court where for lack of "Factual Evidence of any wrong doing", they go from one adjournment after another "cooking up" excuses as they go along. If they sincerely want to reduce tension in the country, let them do the right thing and release all those detained albeit unjustly. If their intention all along was sincere in finding a lasting solution to the "Anglophone Problem" they should not have arrested anyone in the first place.` I have done a little historical research to find out if there is any remote equivalence to sitting side by side with a partner to negotiate then you turn around the very next day to arrest the same negotiators tagging them with the all too frightening mantra of "Terrorism". This is crazy. There is no precedent in history. Only in Cameroon.

I honestly think Mr Tassang owes Dr Munzu an apology  for his tangential unprovoked attack. Angry vituperation is not a panacea for conflict resolution. You will never insult your way to victory. None of us Southern Cameroonians can claim legitimacy emanating from people sovereignty. YES none of us has been ELECTED by Southern Cameroonians to represent them. We have able citizens who have stepped up to assume leadership roles (which is quite commendable) but they cannot arrogate to themselves any form of legitimacy. WhatsApp, Facebook and other Social Media while very helpful in this "Fight" will never be used as a yardstick to establish who is or who is not legitimate.

Again I agree with Dr Munzu that since no known referendum or public polling has been conducted in Southern Cameroons, those who have voluntarily occupied Leadership positions cannot dictate what they think "We the people" want. Yesterday at a barbecue the topic of "Schools Resumption or Not" in SC took center stage of all discussions. There were about fifteen "highly intellectual" guys and a few ladies participating in the informal exchange...until I brought up the question: Why can the Doctors and Nurses in the NW and SW, out of solidarity with Teachers and Lawyers (who have been doing the heavy lifting thus far) not threaten Government with a complete Shut Down of all Hospitals for TWO DAYS ONLY until Biya comes to his senses and solve this problem once and for all?

Now hear their answer: "Chai Mishe! That cannot happen. It is too radical. People go Die."

So I laughed and said "So wuna don see wuna ownAli Mungumu  Ngombe dem wey na chichas and Loya dems eh as the sacrificial lambs 4 did fight? All other fonctionnaires dem dey go work, receive  their salaries. No be so? Listen to me, If the population of Southern Cameroonians is five million, as we speak about 40% of that population are in Yaoundé, Douala, Bafoussam, Kribi, Garoua...in short some are deeply entrenched with landed property all over Cameroon. What do these "SC Anglophones in La Republique territory" do when their relatives (Lawyers and Teachers) in Buea and Bamenda are "Fighting the War" against La Republique?...THEY GO TO WORK. Their "Anglophone children go to school. Anglophone Teachers Teach. Anglophone Lawyers go to work. Do you get my drift? Now what about the children in SC who are obliged to stay at home. What do they do to keep them busy and out of trouble? There are no public libraries with free Internet access. There are no industries. There are no public playgrounds;  No Parks and recreation centers. Any wonder why teen pregnancy has risen almost 70% this year alone? WHY? Paul Biya could care less whether "Anglophone schools open or not. So long as SONARA is pumping the "HOYA" on a daily basis and bunkering is taking place unabated in the high seas. The Contract for the Pipeline Limbe Douala Kribi has been signed and will go operational very soon. What inputs were requested from any of us? We are shouting about schools must and will not start. What has resumption of schools got to do with the guy's bottom line. For how long shall we be chasing the shadow instead of the object"

And my listeners simply said "Mishe, dat one na food for thought. You don dey confuse us about this whole thing but wetin you tok over make sense.
So I concluded with THANK WUNA TOO. We have to be strategic and think smart instead of blanket accusations on innocent decent people in our community. No one has monopoly of knowledge.

I will revisit the Munzu proposal but I honestly think he is a good man and his character should not be smeared by angry tin god despots. Let people express themselves as they see fit. Spilling hatred and propaganda will never take us to the Promised Land. It is tyrannical to impose your magnum opus on others. I am free to decide whether I want Subjugation, Federation or Independence. It is equally my rights to express an opinion contrary to yours and vice versa. All this obstreperous outbursts are unnecessary, uncalled for and dictatorial in nature. Anger is not a strategy. Nobody elected me to write this piece and I speak for myself. Those who are quick to tag people with contrarian ideologies as "Sell Outs" or "Soya Choppers" can go ahead and have a field day. The truth is the truth and I will strive as much as is humanly possible to abide by that doctrine, 
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