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Tuesday, December 4, 2012

RE: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians

I am glad that like a true soldier on duty you are takinmg up this suggestion. I myself I look forward to reading the package and making same available to as may people as possible in this country.


--- On Tue, 12/4/12, louis egbe <louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: louis egbe <louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 4, 2012, 4:15 AM

Mokia Prof Anyangwe,

Thanks for this wonderful idea and suggestion. I will try to engage Mr.Kima Atabong and other potential contributors to collate these diversified but vital and crucial ideas for the education and information of our people as soon as possible. Time is a very critical factor at this juncture of our struggle. In this, I am in full agreement.

Thanks again Prof.

Mola Mbua

--- On Tue, 4/12/12, Carlson Anyangwe <carlany2001@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Carlson Anyangwe <carlany2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 4 December, 2012, 8:20

Mola Mbua,
 
These are very critical points you, Tabong and the others of our thinking heads are making here. Is there a way of packing these sharp and pointed contributions together with many others you have been making for wider distribution especially in our Homeland? For educational purposes. And also for the consolidation and reinforcement of our collective resolve and commitment for the early independence of our Homeland. And further to serve notice, once more, to the colonizer that he labours in vain to keep us captive in the Camerounese House of Bondage. We shall be free, come what may! The key to that freedom lies in our collective hands and actions.
 
Mokia Anyangwe

--- On Sun, 12/2/12, louis egbe <louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: louis egbe <louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Cc: cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 2, 2012, 11:24 AM

Mr. Kima Tabong,

There is no such thing as adapt to chains. Southern Cameroons is an Independent entity; and that there is no such notion as "adaptation". We cannot accept slavery; it has never been accepted anywhere since this world began. Whether West Cameroon/Southern Cameroons was not perfect or not is entirely immaterial as there is no perfect state.

Two things:

1.     Freedom

2.     Independence.

 

This will happen whether La Republique du Cameroun wants it or not.

 

In another vein, this does not mean people are forced to believe in the SC idea. Yet, that those who may not believe or support it does not invalidate the inalienable rights of SC people to freedom and enjoyment of development. Let the people speak. They spoke in 1961 and they will speak again.  LRC had nothing to do with this vote and they will have nothing to do with it again in future. The vote by SC alone was a vote for independence and why only SC people took part.

 

This has nothing to do with "adaptation". You adapt to a free, fair and just society and not to a system that is planning to extinguish our people. No peoples have been known to support or instigate their own suicide.

 

The time has come to tell these slave-drivers to either respect our wishes or leave; and this will come to pass soon.

 

Mbua

--- On Sun, 2/12/12, KIMA TABONG <bakebe1@msn.com> wrote:


From: KIMA TABONG <bakebe1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
To: "Ambasbay Ambasbay" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>, cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com, "manyu net" <manyunet@aufoundation.org>
Cc: coalitionn@yahoo.com, "bohmanyu" <bohmanyu@yahoogroups.com>, "Bakebe Bakebe" <bakebe@yahoogroups.com>, "noma noma-manyu" <noma-manyu@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 2 December, 2012, 18:25


George,
Our brothers on the other side of the Mungo River have deliberately refused to see the Southern Cameroons as a unique and distinct historical, cultural, legal, and geographical
entity. Even some brothers and sisters from our side of the divide see it simplistically as a linguistic "problem". Language is the vehicle that carries culture. In fact, language is
a cultural necessity. There can be no language without culture and no culture without language. The dominant role that English or French plays in the expression of thought in
Cameroon is what compelled the venerable A.D. Mengot to boldly declare that the "African culture is moribund" and called for its restoration. He rightly believed that language is 
culture and culture is language. However, culture or language is not coterminous with nation or state. The English language alone does not define the Southern Cameroons people
who share unique and distinct historical, geographical, legal and metaphysical facts. 

The powers in Yaounde cannot play the Ostrich anymore as you rightly stated in your piece below. The spectacle in our country is disturbing. Our body politic has been over-ridden
by embezzlement, nepotism, corruption, rugged individualism and an ethos which cynically dictates that the general welfare does not matter any more. This state of affairs has 
created another divide: the many Cameroonians who live miserable lives versus the few heartless, grasping and self-indulging elite. These embittered mutually hating groups of 
Cameroonians is a recipe for a disaster that can be averted. Two major fault lines is not what any leader of any country would want to contend with.

Solving the Southern Cameroons problem is therefore a matter of urgency for our country. I do not and cannot pretend to have all the answers. I do however know that the solution
cannot be an archaeological exercise whereby we excavate the past and live by it as some in the SCNC would like to see; the Southern Cameroons and its subsequent incarnation called
West Cameroon was not without its imperfections. The solution must be devoid of the overly enthusiastic and naive tendencies (as expressed by many in this forum) to view and laud every
aspect of Southern Cameroons as if it were the quintessence of goodness itself. Any solution must also take cognizance of the fact that times have changed since 1961 and must therefore 
adapt to the changing times and the new reality. 

Eyong Tabong Kima (ETK)





 

Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:27:19 +0000
From: hurtc2003@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
CC: ambasbay@googlegroups.com; coalitionn@yahoo.com

Mr. Patrick
you, like those before you have got it all wrong again. Is it by error or by commission?
Its high time this type of ostrich behaviour of hiding you heads and exposing your entire
body by refusing to accept what is right be abandon, for legitimacy to reign.
 
The real issue here is that you and your ilks do not wanna brave the political badfaith by
some or all the francophone leadership after the 1961 socalled reunification between the
British Southern Cameroons (not anglophones) with the independent Cameroun Republic.
 
This argument have been systematically and persistently presented by the former and
present leadership of the Southern Cameroons. The SCNC did not come from space or
as a desire to restore our suppressed sovereignty but rather it was a dream to keep a failed
union amended through constitutional remedies.
 
What happened, your Constitutional droners spite fire and refused any meaningful change and
went along to adopt and enact another trash in the name of a new Constitution in 1996 with 
 institutions propose by the Standing committee of AAC, like the SENATE and the House of
Chiefs.Where are these institutions after close to13 years, if I may ask? 
 
You folks will accept atleast that elections in Cameroun have never been free and fair despite the
victories by the SDF in 1992, and there was nothing any of your leaders  did about it. So tell me do
we continue to morgage our children's future in a failed political enterprise or do you want us to go
the stupid way so that France and NATO would use propaganda and armes to annihilate our people
and territory as  prophesised by PAT0000000?
 
We still believe in our legitimate rights before international law and sooner or later the same bodies
will put an end to these unfortunate situation. Remember all the exchanges here are cabled to the UN
and relevant organs as evidence of the threats and plans for a final solution, genocide in Southern
Cameroons. God save us!
Good day!
george
 

From: PATRICK FOSSO <fopatrick2@yahoo.fr>
To: "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 17:15
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Hello my dears,
 
I have been reading the comments of people here about this important issue. At the beguinning i refused to react but some point of view, i don't share, obliged me to contribute to this debate.
First of all when we talk about anglophone we reffer to a person who identifies himself as using the english language as mean of communication. this "anglophone" terminology had a meaning in the past since cameroon was divided into two groups of people: Some speaking french and others speaking english. 
But nowadays, due to the dynamism of the population and the possibility for any parent to choose the appropriate educational system for his children, the anglophone terminology is gradually loosing its substance or its meaning. The cameroonian from the north will send his children to english schools and they will become bilingual. Cameroonian from the NW or SW region born in yaoundé or douala and growing up in a bilingual environment will be using both languages with the same importance. I myself i studied bilingual studies at the university of yaoundé as many classmates and we spend a semester in Bamenda for studies. We have parents from both sides of cameroon.
What is the meaning of the terms "Anglophone" and "Francophone" for the new generation of cameroonians, i mean the young generation? My answer? they are meaningless. They belong to the past. The modern cameroonian is bilingual if not multilingual. He speaks french,english, pidgin camfranglais and cameroonian languages and that makes his pride when he is talking to people from other countries who speak only one language.  We want to be called cameroonians. We want to be given a chance to live in a peaceful world. Our nation is only 51 years old and we want to grow by solving our problems gradually. But please let us not fight the "wrong ennemy" "Ne combattons pas le faux combat".
 
Très fraternellement!!!
 
 
Patrick Fosso
De : Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk>
À : "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 30 novembre 2012 13h56
Objet : Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Please my Francophones Cameroonians the truth is and remains that before this Government in Cameroon appoints somebody the check to see that you are from the former LRC, if it is English then they look for someonewho is of that origin and speak English if not how can you explain that ALL Ambassadors in English speaking countries are francophones USA, UK, Canada, Nigeria, South Africa etc.
Honestly for any person of LRC origin whether with an anglophone culture to REFUSED that there is not anglophone maginalisation s/he is a devil!
Mr. Youmssi please mind your writings!

From: "youmssi@yahoo.com" <youmssi@yahoo.com>
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 2:27
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Cameroon in one country, one nation and one people.
I'm bamileke and I don't know what is anglophone and what is francophone.
Anglophone are free to learn and speak french as well as francophone are free to learn and speak english and get equal chances and advantages.
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
From: Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk>
Sender: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:35:23 +0000 (GMT)
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com<Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians

 
That is very correct I just left that hell due to such frustration. When I think of it, it makes tear come down my eyes.

From: Fon Fon Christopher <fonfonc@yahoo.fr>
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 21:57
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Please Mr  Ntep  what  you  say  is  quite  true.  But  honestly  there  is  an  anglophone problem  which Mr  Biya  is  very  much  aware  of.  In  fact  that  was  even  why he  came  to  power  because  he  made  Mr  Ahidjo - whose  main  problem  at  that  time  was  the  integration  of  the  two Cameroon- believed  that  he  could  manage that  situation.  This  brought  about  the  20th  may 1972  supposed  peaceful  revolution. Ahidjo  had  faith  in  him.  After  when  he  took  over  office  strange  enough  he  never  appeared  to  the  field  for  the  20th  may  match past  as  if  to  show  the  anglophones  he  sympathized  with  them  and  that  20th  may  was   out  of  place.  In  fact  strange  because  he  was  one  of  the  main  actors.  To  win  the  anglophones  confidence  he  went  further  to  visit  Bamenda  as  the  first  place  in  Cameroon  and  further  Nigeria  out  of  Cameroon. These  instances  made  the  right  thinking  Anglophone  to  believe  that  Mr  Biya  was  for  them.  But  shortly  afterward  after  gaining  that  confidence he  betrayed  the  Anglophones  by  transforming  that  very  20th  may  a  national  holiday  and  11th  february  youth  day .  He  went  further  to  declare  the  Republic  making  all  Anglophone identity  lost.  Ask  a  young  Cameroonian  what  is  the  significance of 11th  february  he  will  never  say  plebiscite because  he  does  not  know - a people s history lost.  If  you  have  ever  worked  in  Cameroon- as  I  have  done-  you  will  know  that  the  Anglophones place  is  that  of  almost  slavery. He  is  a  very  good  technician  but  can never  be given  room  to any  decision making - sad.  You  need  to  be  there  - they  are  second  class  citizens.  This  has  made  the  Cameroonians  from  the  francophone  regions  who  have  studied  english - like  the  people  of  the  11th  province  take  much  advantage.  They  will  declare  at  every  juncture  their  anglophone  seemingly  background  but  will  be  preferred  by  their  brothers  the  francophones.  So  you  see  there  is  a  big  problem.  When  you  want  to  go  further  they  will  bring  the  problem  of  minority  in  the  Cameroonian  context.  Here  they  coin  it  now  to tribal  minority  and  never  talking  of  West  Cameroon  which  joined  their eastern  counterpart  after they - eastern -  had  their  independence  in  1960  excluding  the Anglophone.  And  these  very  anglophones  came  in  as  a  federated state.
People  of  Cameroon  why  do  we  pretend  there  is  no problem. Tell  me  when  an  Anglophone  can  be  a  president?

--- En date de : Jeu 29.11.12, Armand Ntep <Bantuphonic@aol.com> a écrit :

De: Armand Ntep <Bantuphonic@aol.com>
Objet: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
À: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Jeudi 29 novembre 2012, 0h45

 
A Tous bonsoir permettez S'il vous plait de reagir dans ce debat, non en tant que francophone mais plutot en tant que Camerounais et j'allais dire mieux , Africain et citoyen de ce monde. a Mr Mishe qui a initie ce debat se trompe de cible, on ne peut pas vouloir renverser Biya et se plaindre de tous les "francophones", qui sont au depart des Africains comme tout le reste, c'est donner trop d'importance a cette categorie de personnes. La realite est la, des 2 cotes: Anglos et francos, souffrent dans une misere indescriptible... et biensure des 2 cotes , il faut reconnaitre que,d'aucun ont bien beneficie des aides du leadership "Francophone" en place , des bourses ... pour se rendrent aux USA, en Europe...et d;ailleurs continuent meme.. je crois sincerement que Mr Mishe se trompe de cible, Puisque Biya avec l'aide de ces parrains nous ont depasse ( Francos/Anglos), a defaut d'obliger Biya a quitter le pouvoir,laisser ce Mr mourrir de sa propre mort et,a partir de la, esperer un changement , j'espere veritabe et benefique pour tous les Camerounais des 4 coins. Pour moi, que le Prochain President soit du NW, SW C, N, je m'en tape pourvu que nous avancions dans un pays Pleinement libre et democratique. Cette culpabilisation recurrente de certain freres anglophones me fait penser aux reactions de certain de nos freres de la diaspora qui nous accusent de les avoir vendus....Au lieu de pleurer , et toujours culpabiliser les autres, trouvons ensemble le moyen d'avancer pour notre bien et biensure celui de l'Humanite Tous mes respects et bonne soiree aux membres de ce Forum. Armand Ntep (artiste musician). -----Original Message----- From: Francis Njung <njungf@yahoo.com> To: Cameroonpatriots <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: Re:[Cameroonpatriots]Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians Its good to know that the best bilingual people since I started as a kid are always from English or Anglo-saxon backgrounds. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT???
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