Re: Sam Esale/////UB CRISIS: DR. YANOU's WAY FORWARD

King Constantinople once said that "woe betides he who laughs when
Rome is burning"

That is a great piece from Mr Sam Esale

But one thing worth mentioning is that "grass dong chop Buea manting
Hotei soté na daso short snek weti mboma man fi go catcham for de", ma
brada.

Ma grang ser Rose Mbonde bin tek dan ples fo manejam bot palava we dem
mekam fo dat ma cool grang ser push hi trowe tawelle for dong.

MANTING HOTEI NO DE FO GBEYA EGEN Ô!!!

Aaron

On 3/1/13, louis egbe <louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Mishe Fon,
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> I think you are a hypocrite and possibly a tribal xenophobic anti-Bakweri.
>  According to your twisted mind, a woman can be killed,
> raped, kidnapped, abused while people wait for you to come and pronounce
> judgement. I now remember how the Bamilekes were complaining about your
> xenophobia
> and possibly misogyny when one of their women had her child stolen from
> hospital.
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> It is people like you and your mindset that have delayed Southern
> Cameroons independence. And unless people of your character are
> straightened,
> then Dr. Endeley's frighteningly prophetic adage and terrible judgement
> will
> hold true for a very long time..And that is what some of us are trying to
> help reverse
> (if we can): by exposing all those who believe in tribal hegemony and empty
> power instead of thinking about how to contribute to the greater good of
> the
> people in the very distant future.
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> Game set and match, Mishe. We will continue to fight for justice for all
> while some of you will continue to be trapped in this dark tribal mind
> --unable to
> escape, and blind to evil.
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> Who compares with Sam Esale? A man who has sold his ancestral land, his
> inheritance
> for a pot of stew. I have the files of
> ALL WEST CAMEROONIANS who are involved in this corrupt Ndian Land deal;
> those
> who signed away their people to Heracles in America.
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>
> So, Mishe, take a dip and never in your mind believe that people can
> commit acts of mindless aggression and botched hegemonic Coup and get away
> with
> it. Not in this our generation. Wait later.
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> To some of you with a tribal mentality, it is just about your
> tribe. Any other
> person can be abused without retribution. Sorry, not accepted in this day
> and
> age.
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> Mbua
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> --- On Fri, 1/3/13, Mishe Fon <mishefon@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Mishe Fon <mishefon@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Sam Esale/////UB CRISIS: DR. YANOU's WAY FORWARD
> To: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>,
> "cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>,
> "accdf@yahoogroups.com" <accdf@yahoogroups.com>, "ambasbay@googlegroups.com"
> <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Friday, 1 March, 2013, 3:49
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> Tata Esale
> Yours here below is what I would call a "Class Act" delivered with such
> poetic precision, majestic civility, wisdom laden truism and calling it the
> way it is. If I could discern just one other person with half of your
> objectivity, I would openly "Decamp" (from whia sef) to your Party the CPDM
> like yesterday.
> Telling the truth cost absolutely nothing. It is tangible and concret.
>
> Your friend Mbua knows he has gaffed and instead of taking some time off to
> chill or apologize to his erstwile teaming admirers, he is struggling to
> ride on the coat-tails of the very controversial, ego-driven hate monger,
> Emmanuel Konde.
>
> Mbua knows he has done enough damage to his reputation and credibility by
> expositing that hitherto "Bakweri Tribal Mirage" he has successfully
> camouflaged thus far.
>
> Mbua now knows that everyone now realizes the Hot Air he has been blowing
> all these years about "Freedom, Liberty of Expression, Tyranny by the Few of
> the Many, SC is up, SC is This, That, We will Fight Oppression by Agents of
> La Republique to the Finish, Bla Bla Bla"...was just that...HOT AIR. It is
> not too late to redeem his battered image and I still like him a lot.
>
> As for Okoro man Jude Nyamiri Okafor, it is simply amazing how someone you
> had so much respect for can discard objectivity for the sake of "eba and
> ogbono soup" Politics. Jude, who by the way has four nationalities and five
> passports; (He is an Akata American, an Igbo Nigerian, a Blackman Panya
> Mexican by virtue of his first marret (4 dokky) in Houston to a Mexican Oil
> baron,s daughter) and was born and raised a Cameroonian. (Dat yi own don
> pass level 4 Dual Nationality). He has every right to his opinion in SW
> Politics BUT in matters as sensitive as this Buea University "Crisis",
> one would have expected our Okoro Nyamiri Buy One Take Two Okrika Broda to
> hold his "Fire". Hell No...Oga Jude was instead adding "Karashine" to the
> bamboo firewood. Oga Jude, remember this well well: "Onye a na agbara ama ya
> na anuri, onye eboro ohi okwere-la in other words, "While you rejoice at the
> news from an informer remember that the accused has not admitted it yet".
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>
> Then, that ya other Oroko trong back foot broda, massa Nine Jerk Nyakson who
> now writes on Camnet only when everyone else is sleeping, comes up as usual
> in support of his so-called Guru the (CBH) "Crazy Bassa Historian". Why is
> massa Makossa Nine Jeck always playing "Behind the Back?". He claims he has
> advanced to writing on "Blocks"...Who reads Blocks or Bricks? Oyigbos call
> those their Yahoo free websites "Blogs" bicos all dem houses Na whiteman
> Kalabot.
>
> Oncemore, Thank you for a well written, well informed, well balanced
> article.
> Mishw Fon
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> From: SAM ESALE <autoauthority.esale@gmail.com>
> To: camnetwork@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Re: UB CRISIS: DR. YANOU's WAY FORWARD
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> Dr. Egbe,
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> Please, at moments like these, we need to be careful with the language we
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>       " That is what we call intellectual war." Mola Mbua.
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> Why must everything be called a "war"? Debate, war? Conversation, war?
> Dialogue, war? Why war?
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> I hate to say this to someone I have come to love and respect, but if any
> student of UB is hurt during these "negotiations", I will personally hold
> you and that Jude Okafor responsible, because your contributing to this
> debate has been the most incendiary. Your behaviour here is irresponsible,
> to say the least, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart........
>
> Those of you who want to use this situation as an opportunity to play up or
> inject the imaginary NW/SW divide must understand that you have a bigger
> fish to fry than pontificating over a natural protest by students at
> UB. Most of us have been students or are students and we know how it feels
> to be cheated or taken advantage of, by those in positions of authority. I
> did not see this amount of venom spewed by  you and your cohorts against the
> leadership of Cameroon when the Chief of Bakingili was arrested and thrown
> into prison. Chief Inoni Ephraim, a former Prime Minister of The Republic of
> Cameroon is languishing in Kondengui, without a brave finger or concerted
> protest from the elites of Fako or South West. Yet, you come here like a
> bunch of wussies to chastise young men and women who demonstrate the courage
> to protest against injustices, something you are very incapable of doing,
> besides crying for
> 'separation' like a bunch of peevish school boys. Where is your courage or
> bravery? Why don't you pick a fight with your age mates like the folks in
> Yaounde, instead of jumping into useless conclusions, mixing up messages and
> colliding with the students at UB, who are young enough to be your sons and
> daughters? As I see it, some of you guys are using this situation to
> position yourselves politically, or ride the wave for academic and
> appointments in Cameroon, at the detriment of the needs of the student
> population at UB. You can't use students for your political or professional
> ambitions and/or calculations. You must not ride on their backs to achieve
> your personal agendas. That is unfair and wrong......
>
> You see, Dr. Egbe, I just got my ass nabbed and thrown in jail by Magistrate
> MsJoe for kicking Jude Okafor in his teeth and giving him a black eye.
> MsJoe's verdict was based on the fact that as a Black Belt, I ought to have
> known better than engage in a fis fight with that scum bag. My hands are
> considered as weapons of mass destruction when dealing with people not in my
> marshal art rank. So, you the Fako or South West Elites need to know what
> battles to pick and stay out of University campuses, unless invited for
> mediation or conflict resolution, as community organizers. The VC and her
> staff at UB, are very well qualified to handle the situation peacefully,
> without the foolishness from some of you. The VC has an opportunity here to
> burnish her resume by demonstrating or showing  her leadership skills under
> pressure. This could be good a good experience for the VC and her staff,
> depending on
> how they manage the situation and the outcome. Sometimes, these kinds of
> minor conflicts are just a test of our leadership abilities and/or
> management capabilities. Everything doesn't have to be hunky-dory for us to
> be perceived as visionary leaders. In most cases it is how we weather the
> storms or tempests in the course of our careers that help us build
> character. A bummer tree is strong because of the strength of the wind it
> embraces everyday. The positive side is that this just a blip in the life of
> a great leadership career for the VC of UB. I see a silver lining with no
> child hurt and the reputation of UB in tact, based on the
> reasonable decision and actions by the VC. This is her chance to innovate,
> transform, bring change through the use of visionary leadership skills and
> sing her own  song for these students and future generations to remember her
> by. There is no shame in compromise or negotiation from
> a position of power. We don't expect the VC to abuse her power.
>
> I don't want to believe this nonsense implied here that the VC got her
> job as a result of "affirmative action" or tribal quotas in
> Cameroon. Perhaps I'm naive. Rather, I want to believe that she earned her
> position as a result of her great education, leadership qualification and
> ability as a technocrat. Anything short of that is cow dung or horse manure.
> If you sincerely believe that the VC is there as a result of tribal
> politics, then you should ask her to resign and get a job at a District
> Office or run for the office of Mayor of Buea Town. And if you think that we
> must support the VC or her administration because she is from SW or a woman,
> then you are not only insulting the VC, and Cameroonians, but you must be
> one of the monsters perpetuating tribalism and nepotism in La Republique du
> Cameroon. This is not the time and place to promote our political agendas
> and/or
> calculations.....This is the time for reason and common sense...What is in
> the best interest of the majority of people at UB? It is an opportunity for
> the VC to show us the kind of leader she is, kind, caring, loving,
> intelligent, understanding, decisive, strong, empathic, courageous,
> visionary, honest, sincere, compassionate, transformational, diplomatic,
> etc. etc. The VC is NOT a demagogue or petulant and unenlightened despot or
> dictator as Dr. Louis Egbe and Jude Okafor try so hard to paint her.
>
> Those South West elites who are doing everything to undermine the wisdom,
> sophistication and understanding of the VC in conflict arbitration, by
> inventing this NW/SW divide, can go suck some lemons or fight for the
> freedom of Chief Ephraim Inoni, instead of preparing for a belated "Unity"
> party in Buea, and lashing out their frustration on innocent students at
> UB. I say this as a member of CPDM-USA and a son of SW. Isn't Inoni one of
> our Chiefs? Is he one of us? Which NW person put Inoni in Kondengui?  What
> nonsense is this, we are manufacturing about NW/SW? Are we blind? Where is
> our nerve? Where is our focus? Look at our roads, our schools, our
> hospitals, our bridges our towns, our villages our water supply systems, our
> electricity systems, our sewer systems, etc, etc.  Look at the "railway"
> systems, our ports and our parks and recreation lots. What have we
> done to fight for the poor, the sick and those who lack basic necessities
> of life in rural communities within our respective jurisdictions or
> constituencies? Buea is seeing a face lift today because dignitaries from
> all over Cameroon will  convene there in a not too distant future for a
> belated meet & greet party. Whats going to be left in Buea after this big
> event?
>
>  Perhaps, these students have more courage than most of us behaving like
> castrated adults with no sense of dignity. We have the guts to preach
> ancient history to an unsuspecting readership under the guise of
> superior knowledge and high diploma. Where were we or where was the history
> lesson when Chief Ephraim Inoni of Bakingili was arrested and thrown in jail
> like a common thief? Why don't we wage a "war" against our age mates in
> Yaounde for the freedom of Chief Ephraim Inoni? Shame us for attacking poor
> little kids who want nothing but a decent environment to study. The same
> things we want for our own kids. The same things we wanted when we were
> kids.... Shame on us......
>
> Everyone here knows my position in this matter, as a proud parent of a UB
> alumni. It is no secret that I am on the side of the students. I stand for
> justice, respect for individual rights, respect for authority, and
> non-violent protests or demonstrations. I am also for UBSU. I am
> against vandalism or damage to property, public or private. I
> am against disrespect of any sort and abuse of any kind. I want peace and
> prosperity for my country. I am a citizen of Cameroon from Dikome Balue in
> Ndian Division, where the roads are impassable by motor vehicles during the
> rainy season. Yet, the last time I checked, I was still a member of CPDM-USA
> and I feel like a fool......
>
> I was a student in Yaounde when a protest was mounted for a BA degree to be
> obtained in 3 years instead of 4 years. At the time, we were lagging
> behind the rest of the world that did it in 3 years. Professor Mbassi Manga
> was the Dean of our Faculty and Dr. Elango, Dr.Chem Langue, and Dr. Martin
> Njeuma, etc. were Anglophone members of our faculty at the time. If we did
> not do what we did then, and succeeded, the students of the University
> system in Cameroon would be studying for 4 years to obtain a BA or BSc,
> today. Not a single drop of blood was shed and no property damage was
> reported during the stand off..  What this means is that whatever it is UB
> students demand, they are not just doing so for themselves. They
> are correcting these wrongs for future generations all over Cameroon. They
> are laying the ground work or foundation for future generations to build
> on. This is a fact.
> When I was at the University of Durham in UK, we protested and marched for
> the release of Nelson Mandela from prison in Robin Island, South Africa.
> Most of us were NOT South Africans. We had more white British students join
> us in the demonstrations, than blacks. We protested several times all over
> England, Scotland and Ireland, with our safety and security guaranteed by
> the British Police and Scotland Yard.  No student was hurt and no property
> was vandalised. Everything does not have to degenerate into "war" or
> violence. That is a very primitive approach to life in the 21st century,
> when every one seems so civilised. Whatever happened to dialogue? Whatever
> happened to mutual co-existance? Whatever happened to non-violence and
> peace?
>
> Roland Minang will be fine. I hope that the forces of law enforcement have
> him in custody just to protect him from harm or keep him out of harm's way
> while they manage the peace on campus, until the examinations are over. That
> is my sincere wish. Law enforcement is there to maintain Law and Order or
> peace. They are not there to defend oppression or repression. They are there
> to protect our liberties or rights as individuals and citizens of a nation
> with laws. Our constitution grants all Cameroonians the right to organise
> peacefully and UBSU must have that right in fact. The government guarantees
> these rights on behalf of every civilian, student or citizenry of the
> Republic..
>
> I shall leave you now, to serve my time at the Buea Mountain Hotel, as
> ordered by the bribe taking, mbongo chobbi eating, Muea market loving,
> makossa dancing, and LESA hopping MsJoe, for beating up her friend Jude
> Okereke Okafor. While there, I shall not eat green eggs and ham nor touch
> garri with no salt or sugar with my hands. I'll go on hunger strike until
> I'm served with rice and stew and be allowed to "seleep" on a vono-bed with
> "dunlop" mattress, and all my body guards must be lovely females, like
> Colonel Gaddafi's, or else I'll escape from the jail house.......
>
> Goodbye,
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> Love,
> Sam Esale
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> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:00 AM, louis <louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hello Mr. Enow,
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> Those who brought ethnicity in this instance have to explain why they
> brought it in the first place.
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> Good you brought the Universities in Europe. For those who do not know,
> there was always a clash -- especially at Oxford -- between students and the
> natives and native authorities until a compromise was reached of mutual
> respect.
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> Konde was not involved in the kidnap; and you continue in a vacillation
> instead of coming out clearly where you stand on this act of terror.
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> People should NOT be in this narrow view of trying to suppress other
> opinions based on ethnicity. I am against Konde's opinion on SC and other
> aspects of his approach on Cameroon and other issues but I have never tried
> to prevent him from making his opinion known her; and certainly not based on
> his tribe. All I can do is to counter it. So, counter his opinion. This is
> what is called intellectual war.
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> And what is the point of confining
> yourself to Manyunet in a case of clearly a national issue beyond a petit
> tribal argument? Be a man and act.
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> Mbua
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> --- In mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com, Agbor Enow Augustine wrote:
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>> Hallo! Dr. Egbe,
>> Check my record on the Besongabang case on Manyunet. I
>> did plead for writers not to turn that case into hatred for Francophone
>> Cameroonians or Beti citizens. I reiterated that it was an alleged
>> crimeÂ
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>> committed by one Cameroonian,and any attempt to turn it into
>> tribal,linguistic,or regional case will be futile.
>> Most of the
>> universities you find in Europe, have been there for hundreds of
>> years,and have gone through what is going on now at UB; or have gone
>> through more violent strikes. The UB strike was a peaceful strike-no life
>> was hurt,and no property was destroyed.
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>> My problem with you brother,is that you are joining the likes of Dr. Konde
>> (Guru), who use threats, bluffs, and regional or tribal mobilization to
>> seek outcomes in a debate of great public interest like the crisis at UB.
>> No one can question the fact that Konde is from Limbe.Whether is
>> forefathers or fathers migrated from Bassaland in littoral to Limbe does
>> not matter.Every Cameroonian has the right to live and work in any place
>> of their chosen within the Country. This issue of Francophone/Anglophone,
>> and
> Northwest/Southwest,just play to the hands of the divide and rule political
> structure in our country.
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>> It is the university's responsibility to build their leaders,including the
>> student union leaders capacity through training. How can they get the
>> students to listen,if students have no idea on how the negotiation process
>> works? Maybe it is time for UB to add courses on Businesses negotiation in
>> their curriculum.
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>> We should avoid the demonization of others in debates over values. Teach
>> poor history teacher Dr. Konde this.
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>> Augustine Agbor Enow
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>> --- On Thu, 2/28/13, louis wrote:
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>> From: louis
>> Subject: [camnetwork] Re: UB CRISIS: DR. YANOU's WAY FORWARD
>> To: mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 3:06 PM
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>> I am yet to see you put on the Lion hat and denounce evil here. I remember
>> when LRC sent soldiers from Kutaba to attack your women in Besongabang. To
>> this day, you all stayed mute. I never saw one word from you.
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>> Now, since you do not understand, I will tell you here and now. Some
>> people do not ALLOW women to be attacked even in a war. If you attack a
>> woman, you have declared war on them. Get that straight. And for those who
>> come here trying to justify barbarism, if you do this again, you will be
>> attacked. It has nothing to do with me but what the people who believe
>> that they are affected think. This also has little to do with where the
>> assaulter comes from including the natives themselves. I am merely trying
>> to interpret the matter as a layman.
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>> story from the very beginning. I offered my own advice in Facebook on the
>> peaceful approach and alternative strategy of the students' complaint.
>> Those who read what I wrote are here and can testify. I am not a member of
>> Buea University, never been a student there, but was trying to weigh in
>> from my own professional experience as to the very serious implications of
>> their undertakings. It was up to the students to accept it or reject it.
>> That is their right. However, I will also move forward to offer solutions
>> as concerns their foolish action; and to analyse the matter. I hope you
>> can also give me that right.
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>> Suppose this went wrong and the Police/army intervened to perform a rescue
>> mission and many people died. You people just jump into things without
>> thinking about the long term implications of a clear act of an attempted
>> Coup.
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>> violence? The point is who did it and who are those behind the shadow.
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>> of terror on the pretext that there are no photocopy machines.
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>> Mbua
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>> --- In mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com, Agbor Enow Augustine wrote:
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>> > Did you hear yourself speak? "Thank you for this. Let's allow the
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>> > You do not have any credible piece of evidence to justify or interpret
>> > the significance of your above statement,or persuade the reader of its
>> > validity.Your hypothetical world is fact or truth,but others' are
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>> > Augustine Agbor Enow
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> and research. Once this aim is threatened, they can suspend all other
> axillary activities that threaten this including the student union or
> disband that particular Union completely and start afresh. I informed these
> students of this possibility from the very beginning.They never listened.
> Not sure who advises these young people. Whoever is their advicer has failed
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>> > > do so. It is stated in all constitutions. However, an association can
>> > > be disbanded if it is violent to the ordinary person, its members and
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>> > > > union. If it does, then Mola Louis is wrong. I wonder; if a student
>> > > > union is (state) authority created and directed, does that union
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>> > > > course people should be independent as STUDENTS and not as
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>> > > > and should not be abused. It can be withdrawn if abused. At the end
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>> > > > > the role of the student association at UB. After we examine
>> > > > > the cause of the problem, we can deal with the after math
>> > > > > later. First, a student association in any university must be
>> > > > > independent. At the university, no one dictates to
>> > > > > another. When I was teaching at the university, no one, not
>> > > > > even the President of the university could change the grade I gave
>> > > > > a
> student. If there is no liberty in the university, then, it is not
> fulfilling its mission. Here are two pdfs I want you to take a look
> at. Â
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>> > > > > Oneonta Faculty up state New York.  When you read these
>> > > > > Bylaws, you will find there is no mention of faculty involvement
>> > > > > with the student association. The association is completely
>> > > > > independent, insofar as its activities are concerned. The
>> > > > > student association does not answer to anyone in the
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>> > > > > the State University of New York in Albany (SUNY-Alabany).Â
>> > > > > SUNY-Albany is one of four major campuses of the State University
>> > > > > of New York System. The other campuses (almost 60) in the State of
>> > > > > New York are university colleges of the SUNY System. You will
>> > > > > also see in the constitution that the Administration has no
>> > > > > committee overseeing the Student Association. The student
>> > > > > union is completely independent with its judiciary branch. It
>> > > > > is for
> this reason that I say, the university is a crucible for democracy.Â
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>> > > > > Administration should stay out of student politics. Â The
>> > > > > student association should be one designed by the students for the
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>> > > > > pointed out, there are students who have fought more dangerous
>> > > > > battles but without an inkling of violence and won hands down. In
>> > > > > 1983, Prof Fonlon was present at the University of Yaounde
>> > > > > Anglophone protest. I remember that in one of the demonstrations,
>> > > > > he came along to speak to the students. He was politely told that
>> > > > > his ideas were NOT welcome there; and quite frankly he should
>> > > > > leave peacefully. He left quietly without a fuss. Now, tell me
>> > > > > here if these students were to attack him. This would have been
>> > > > > the height of stupidity which would have been
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> Very interesting that you mention John Henry Cardinal Newman. If I may
> recall, Dr. Fonlon was greatly influenced by Cardinal Newman.  UB
> was established as an "Anglo-Saxon" university, what ever that means.Â
> If it can't have a student union by the students for the students,
> then, one wonders what makes it "Ango-Saxon?"Â
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>> > > > > > student union. By this I mean, a union free of interference
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> mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.commailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com>;
> Politics
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>> > > > > > > Cameroonmailto:cameroon_politics%40yahoogroups.com>;
>> > > > > > > WICUDAmailto:wimbum%40yahoogroups.com>;
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>> > > > > > > "No! This would be a bad precedent and a "Yanou Prescription"
>> > > > > > > for
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>> > > > > > > unremitting chaos. What consensus! Are university students on
>> > > > > > > equal footing
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>> > > > > > > with university administrators? Remember Confucius'
>> > > > > > > prescription for an
>>
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>> > > > > > > orderly society? As in the family, "Let the father be a father
>> > > > > > > and the
> son
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > at son," so too in the state... "Let the ruler be a ruler and
>> > > > > > > the subject a
>>
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > subject." For order to return to UB, I suggest to "Let the
>> > > > > > > student be a
>>
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > student and the administrator an administrator." "
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>> > > > > > > Who ever wrote this response to Dr.
> Yanou's proposals, I don't know what
>>
>> >
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>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > world he lives in. All I can say is he has a long lesson to
>> > > > > > > take in
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
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>> > > > > > > administration.No group is asking or needs to be in equal
>> > > > > > > footing with
>>
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>>
>> > >
>>
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>> > > > > > > anybody. It is a participatory process. Students have a role
>> > > > > > > to play,and
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > that role cannot be usurped by their teachers or the
>> > > > > > > administration. Like
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > wise, the role of the administration
> can never be taken over by the
>>
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>>
>> > >
>>
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>> > > > > > > students. There is no ruler or subject here. The problem with
>> > > > > > > U B is exactly
>>
>> >
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > what you just proposed,rulers and subjects. This mentality is
>> > > > > > > a pathway to
>>
>> >
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>> > >
>>
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>> > > > > > > failure. It is not just about U B,it is a national disease,
>> > > > > > > and the reason
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
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>> > > > > > > why progress is so difficult to attain in Cameroon. In this
>> > > > > > > age
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
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>>
>> > > > > > > of modernization,this time of
> technological advancement,this computer age
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > when information is available to everyone,it is difficult for
>> > > > > > > autocracy to
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > work. That is why protests,strikes,and revolutions spring up
>> > > > > > > every time
>>
>> >
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>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > people feel cheated even
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > >Â in the most minute thing. Let's get out of the old and
>> > > > > > > join the modern.
>>
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>
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>> > > > > > > ________________________________
>>
>> >
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>> > >
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>> >
>>
>> > > > > > >Â From: "ekonde07@"
>
>>
>> >
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>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > To: mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:57 AM
>>
>> >
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>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [camnetwork] UB CRISIS: DR. YANOU's WAY FORWARD
>>
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>> > > > > > >
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>> > >
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> > > > > > > No! This would be a bad precedent and a "Yanou Prescription"
> for unremitting
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > chaos. What consensus! Are university students on
>> > > > > > > equal footing with
>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > university administrators? Remember Confucius' prescription
>> > > > > > > for an orderly
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > society? As in the family, "Let the father be a father and the
>> > > > > > > son at son,"
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > so too in the state... "Let the ruler be a ruler and the
>> > > > > > > subject a subject."
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > For order to return to UB, I suggest to "Let the student be a
>> > > > > > > student and
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > the administrator an administrator."
>>
>>
> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my
>> > > > > > > BlackBerry®
>>
>> >
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > >
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > ________________________________
>>
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>> > > > > > >
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>> > >
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>> >
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>> > > > > > > From:Â UBSU EX OFFCIALS
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > Sender:Â mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com
>
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>> > >
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>> >
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>> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:30:25 +0100
>>
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>> >
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>> > > > > > > To: mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com>; ;
>>
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>> > > > > > > ReplyTo:Â mailto:camnetwork%40yahoogroups.com
>
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > Subject: [camnetwork] UB CRISIS: DR. YANOU's WAY FORWARD
>>
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>> > > > > > >
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>> > > > > > > The Way Forward
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>> > > > > > >
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>> > > > > > > UB administration should engage with the student body to
>> > > > > > > determine by
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
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>> > > > > > > consensus in a give and take manner the method and extent of
>> > > > > > > reforming the
>>
>>
> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > union if that is the true objective. Banning UBSU, starving
>> > > > > > > them of funds or
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > using one group of students to hoist a
>> > > > > > > â€Å"reformed� student union on
>> > > > > > > campus is
>
>>
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > an unattainable objective.
>>
>> >
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > Recruiting and cultivating student groups through financial
>> > > > > > > inducements by
>>
>> >
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>> >
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>> > > > > > > top UB administrators should be discouraged. One way of doing
>> > > > > > > so is to
>>
>> >
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>> > >
>>
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>> > > > > > > ensure that academic staff be involved in the selection
>> > > > > > > process of officials
>>
>> >
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > to post of responsibility in the university. Government policy
>> > > > > > > of picking a
>>
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>
>> > >
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>> >
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>> > > > > > > Deputy Vice Chancellor (DVC) to replace a dropped VC is the
>> > > > > > > bane of the
>>
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > crisis in UB.
>>
>> >
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>> > > > > > > As President of SYNES UB, let it be known that some DVCs have
>> > > > > > > made subtle
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > offers to me to use the union to foment trouble in the past
>> > > > > > > without success.
>>
>> >
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>> > >
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>> >
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>> > > > > > > Guess their objective! Consider the issue of allowing students
>> > > > > > > form prayer
>>
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>> > > > > > > groups that pray regularly on campus in the same way as music
>> > > > > > > and cultural
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>> > >
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>> > > > > > > groups operate freely. The blood of Jesus can bring permanent
>> > > > > > > peace at UB!
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>> > > > > > > Communication Unit--
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>> > > > > > > University of Buea Students' Union
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>> > > > > > > Ex Officials
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>> > > > > > The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the
>> > > > > > belief in
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