I mean exactly what you say. I don’t want that monkey on my back if the patient dies in their sleep. There are dentists now promoting the fact that they treat sleep apnea. I let the docs diagnose and handle it and I make the appliance and titrate it with the Aries, which the physicians are just learning to use. I report the results to the physician here even though it is being read by a certified sleep specialist. The major sleep doc here was reading them for a while but I think got overwhelmed. I’m still working on a better relationship with the primary care docs who are having to listen to the complaints of the patients about the CPAP rather than the sleep doc who is in Savannah and shows up here two days a month.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
912-384-7400
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From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Soileau
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:04 PM
To: gmoor@windstream.net
Cc: drhackbarth@texasdentalhealth.com; riccoker@gmail.com; 'Wasted Days'; 'ACE group'
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Re: [Wasted Days] Texas news on OAT
Guy, what do they mean by physician "presence"? Do they mean a md must be on site or just signed off? Personally I like the fact that I dont have to make the call you have apnea even though its not rocket science. Above AHI 5 you have it. Below you don't. I could teach my four year old that! Now WHY you have sleep apnea goes a little deeper. So let the MD's have that monkey. Its one less thing I have to take my time to convince them they have it. Hell I wish MD could diagnose dental problems as well. I would love for family docs to tell my patients yep, that tooth is abscessed. Go to Tony and get a root canal TODAY! Yep, you have a TMJ. Go to Tony and get an orthototic today. Yep, that tooth is broke. Go to Tony and get a crown today! It would be fantastic! I think we should look at this from that direction and ask the MDs what else they could diagnose for us and not treat!
Tony
On 5/21/2013 6:23 AM, Guy Moorman wrote:
You cannot win a war with physicians on sleep medicine. You work with them…not against them. Georgia is ruling soon that it is outside the scope of dental practice to diagnose and treat sleep apnea without a physician presence.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
912-384-7400
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From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John K. Hackbarth DDS
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:32 AM
To: riccoker@gmail.com; 'Wasted Days'
Cc: 'ACE group'
Subject: RE: [ACEsthetics] Re: [Wasted Days] Texas news on OAT
There is much more to this than just the sleep apnea. Read the proposed rules. They even talk about occlusal changes being in the realm of the MD”S. The board asked the medical board what they thought and they got this back. Seems like they (our board) didn’t do a good job of it. Everybody in Texas needs to comment on the proposed rules. It all boils down to a turf war. We need to stand up now.
John Hackbarth, DDS
1708 Amburn Road
Suite A
Texas City, Texas 77591
409-935-2111 office
409-502-0681 cell
From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Coker
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:05 PM
To: Wasted Days
Cc: ACE group
Subject: [ACEsthetics] Re: [Wasted Days] Texas news on OAT
I think it is a little early to get too worried about this. They will review this ruling and then come out with a final ruling. I still think that we probably need to market snoring much more than apnea in any case- it has a so much more punch! The sleep physicians need good dentists to work with.
Rick
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, mchenry lee <drmaclee@gmail.com> wrote:
I have already pulled my radio ad and will have a closer look at my website. Read the below:
http://www.dentalcompliance.com/sleep-apnea-and-texas-dentists/
Mac
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