I agree with Shri Virendra Goel Sir completely.
A perfect blend between theory and practice would be found in some of good distance learning graduates / post graduates from the industry. I substantiate this statement if mine with an evidence from Symbiosis Centre For Distance Learning where I served as a Faculty and INCHARGE of PG program in Supply Chain & Operations Mgmt.
All students (matured executives) from the industry displayed conviction, commitment, confidence and seriousness while learning as well working in their respective companies.
There were gentlemen of the age 58! On the verge of retirement but still pursuing double masters in Management specialization from SCDL/SMU or other distance learning universities.
Kindly don't underestimate distance learning graduates from industry. They know far more better than our so called full time graduates!
I am myself happy and contended with distance education as well as blended learning technology in education.
Regards,
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--I beg to differ with Dr. Padma
First and foremost, teaching is a skill and it has to do nothing with regular or distance education. Even excellent scholars of regular programs may not be good teachers.
My experience is that those who are learning while working can grasp the subjects better. That is why we keep talking about OJT, summer training and internship. That is why we are discussing about Industry-Institution interfacing and induction of both academic and executives from trade and industry in the education institutes. All reputed international institutions ask for at least two years working experience for their PG programs.
All the distance education graduates may not be good teachers but saying all of them are not fit for education is going too far. After all where from all the management theories have come?
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Padma Misra
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Distance degrees valid for central govt jobs: MHRD
If these are the reasons for promoting...distance education...
And if the distance education...is going to make women safer...one is most welcomed to pursue it..Women have to get out some or the other time out of house....won't they goto job...or are they planning to that from home too...
Perhaps that is what they are planning....
Its ok to toy with the idea of using internet..to teach...and think women are becoming independent...
But for work they have to step out of the house...
unless offcourse..we are needlessly arguing and we are taking about courses that help them learn to become independent with in the four walls of their house..and then the courses of engineering,management,medicine, have no meaning for them.
And the argument is useless because this is a management forum....
But I find the reason..of women safety a very lame excuse.....
But distance education is taken up because of...
1) low cost
2) to escape the trouble of attendance
3)to keep working and gather some degree or the other.The 2nd and 3rd reason are more prominent....especially in management education..and that is why I do not find this as a good idea of having...distance education candidates being allowed to enter teaching profession.
Someone studies because of low cost It is understandable...but distance education imn ?management is not that cheap....in some cases...
But if a candidate has taken education through distance education...to escape attendance...and to be able to work simultaneously.....such a person is not fit for teaching....
The regular student may not be brilliant...but has to be more regular to studies.
They may also have to compete for the seat.
Another lame excuse it reservation...
I have to remind...in case one has forgotten....There are seats lying vacant both in reserved and general category....in regular MBA programs across the country...Distance education doesn't require any competition for entrance. The study centres are unable to maintain quality. The only aim seems to pass all the students in distance education.
I could go on and on....
But this is enough....to explain...
On 25 Sep 2015 20:26, "Usha Gowri" <usha.gowri@gmail.com> wrote:
In a country like India this is the right move.One is the sheer numbers that we churn out. Second is, what with all the reservations only a few from particular communities can enter college.Third, considering the distances people have to commute,especially the girl child and the kind of dastardly acts against the girls in the towns and villages,distance education is the only way out for these girls.Fourth,it isnt easy working and studying.It requires enormous jugglery of time and resources and humongous motivation.And well what is special about the regular student? better intelligence ? what.....?and lastly the exorbitant fees is the biggest deterrent tor many to attend college.I could go on....
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Dr. Padma Misra <misrapadma@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't understand how can distance education claim same ground as regular.
Regular cndidates give years of their.life to a degree.
Where as distance education students persue degrees while working.
How can they claim benefit of both work and study...
It means those who are distance education cndidates they where right..to not take up regular education...and regular candidates where bunch of idiots..to lay waste their time.
Distance education.. should only be limited to industry and not education.
Otherwise those who pursued phd with job..they should be given benefit of both..and not have phd pursuing time deducted from their total experience.
I have serious objections to having distance mode candidates competing with regular candidates in teaching profession.
On 25 Sep 2015 10:11, "Uma Devi" <umachepuri@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you very much for giving this info, should circulate to all the institutions, some institutions are not accepting distance mode for MBA Colleges.
On 25-Sep-2015 7:31 am, "Maha Rajan K" <maharajan.ooty@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear members,
A pertinent discussion. However, even now some institutions mention that candidates with (so called) regular mode of educational degrees are preferred for the posts. Is it legitimate? Can anyone kindly clarify?
Regards and best wishes,
Maharajan K
Sent from my Yuphoria mobileOn Sep 24, 2015 4:53 PM, "lambodar saha" <lambodarsaha@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir,
Good news...
It is a appreciable for all the candidates those who have done through distance education under DEC because Central Govt.,State and PSU always asking the 2 years full time regular degree.It helps great to the our distance mode students.
Thanks and thanks toall !!!
With Thanks & Regards !
Accept responsibility and fulfill your dreams !!!
Prof. Lambodar Saha
JSPM's KIMR,
Savitribai Phule Pune University
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Dear sir
Yes you are very right. MHRD decision on distance degree /ignou degree is really appreciable.
Hope now colleges and universities follow this in appointments.On 23 Sep 2015 20:34, "Prof. Bholanath Dutta" <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
Many colleges / Government organisations in the job description mention "2 years regular program". This must go away and can be challenged by any candidate.
Best Regards,
Bholanath
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Viraj Atre. <atre.viraj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Prof Dutta to have informed this very important news from UGC. Because of your efforts we all get to know the happenings in the education sector and academics sector immediately. This is a very good news Professor.
Regards,
VIRAJ ATRE.
Faculty, Consultant, Trainer: Operations, Production, Quality, Reliability & Safety Engineering / Management. ISO audit standards.M.Tech.(Pursuing).M.M.S.(Prod.Mgmt).P.G.T.Q.M.(IIQA).P.G.D.B.M.(Prodn.Mgmt).P.G.D.B.M.(Bus.Mgmt).B.E.(Ind.Engg).Diploma Industrial Electronics.
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M.I.I.E. : Member of The Indian Institution of Industrial EngineeringCell # 9881237570
email: atre.viraj@gmail.com
www.LinkedIn.com/in/virajatreOn Sep 23, 2015 3:13 PM, "Prof. Bholanath Dutta" <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
All distance education degrees, diplomas and certificates including technical education degrees and diplomas awarded through distance education mode by the universities with the approval of University Grants Commission (UGC) would be valid for central government jobs.
The Ministry of Human Resources and Development (MHRD) has notified the rule in the gazette recently. The notification was necessitated due to several changes in the distance education sector. Earlier, the approval of all distance courses needed approval of the Distance Education Council.
The Distance Education Council which worked under the Indira Gandhi National Open University and worked as the distance education regulator was scrapped two years back and the whole gamut of distance education was shifted to UGC, the apex body of higher education.
"The central government hereby notifies that all the degrees/diplomas/certificates including technical education degrees and diplomas awarded through open and distance learning mode of education by the universities established by an Act of Parliament or state legislature, institutions deemed to be universities under section 3 of the UGC Act 1956 and Institution of National Importance declared under an Act of Parliament stand automatically recognised for the purpose of employment to posts and services under the central government provided they have been approved by the UGC," reads the gazette, dated 10 June 2015, reported DNA.
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