Re: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

Though PhD is the highest degree that is awarded by the Universities, until July 2009, there were no minimum standards and procedures that were specified by UGC to be followed by the Universities.

As may be seen from the attached Gazette notification, the guidelines are broad and it is upto the Universities to define the specific procedures to be followed.

Some Universities (including some government ones) do not seem to be complying with the UGC guidelines ,even after 6 years of notification.

Besides, conduct of the PhD program ( starting with identification of the topic, allocation of supervisors/guides, progress monitoring , setting standards for thesis writing etc )

in some Universities is left to the scholar and the supervisor ,with very little involvement of the Universities. After registration of the scholar, the University gets involved only in evaluation .

On the other hand, linkage of PhD qualification with grades and salaries, at the time recruitment as well as at the time of promotion of faculty members ,

increased the demand for the PhD program multifold , beyond the capacity of most of the Universities to manage the program.

It goes without saying that except for a few islands of excellence, there is a dire need to improve the quality of the PhD program in general , which needs addressal of

the underlying issues- at systemic level as well as operational level.

Best Regards

ORS Rao

From: Virendra Goel

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:20 AM

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Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

Despite such a lengthy procedure , checks and balances why quality of our so many PhD holders is so poor.

Regards

Virendra Goel

From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Prabhakar Waghodekar
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:36 PM
To: thanikachalam vedhathiri via Management Teachers Consortium,Global
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

More or less similar procedure is adopted by almost all the universities including IITs. Some universities keep it mandatory 2-3 international publications in reputed Journals. Some universities appoint both the examiners from India and no defence is done. Some universities ask for 20-25 copies of PhD syopsis that are dispatched to the experts for review who can load queries, suggestions, endorsements, etc., in sealed covers that are opened during the Question-Answer Session of the defence, and the researcher and guide will have to defend any query. Some prestigious universities do register PhD candidate without any guide (supervisor), self-guided missile!

Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
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Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
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From: "'thanikachalam vedhathiri' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

Examiners of the Madras university:

The supervisor has to prepare a list three foreign examiners, three Indian Examiners and three Examiners within the Southern Region.

The list has to be approved by the Doctoral Committee.

To get a list of three foreign examiners, the supervisor has to search for the specialists through the internet. Around 60 examiners has be contacted. Finally, three leading professors have to be placed in the panel. The university would send the synopsis to one of them and get his/her acceptance. The process is free from the bias. Normally, Indian origin examiners are not accepted by the university. The university also verifies the background of the examiners through the Internet.

One Indian examiner would be selected out of three Indian examiners similarly. These two evaluate and adjudicate the thesis. The Examiner from the region would be invited for the conduct of public viva-voce.

Thanikachalam.V

From: Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

See the attachments for the proposed solutions.

Regards,

Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.

Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!

From: Ashish Panat <ashishpanat@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:15:57
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

My humble appeal to friends, it shall be in larger interest for Learned people to restrain from generalizing the localised assessment results about education standards in India and shall it be better to suggest solutions independent of so called developed country's professors in general? Regards.

On Nov 30, 2015 6:51 AM, "Prabhakar Waghodekar" <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Prof. Appalayya Meesala has rightly pointed out "The research quality of Indian universities is apparently crying for immediate attention and a makeover". The quality of outcome depends on how the inputs are processed. Process needs to be goal focused..

Hence, first of all we have to fix goal (s) for research. In India our research goal is mainly promotion (to enhance earning capacity) focused, though there but a few islands that are pure development or knowledge focussed.

In fact quality research needs no assessment by the third party, but such a reseach drags many followers!

pure om: "Dr.Appalayya Meesala" <ameesala@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:24:00
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Subject: [MTC Global] Our (Indian) Ph. D. theses should be vetted by a randomly chosen professor from a developed country

The research quality of Indian universities is apparently crying for immediate attention and a makeover, as evidenced by poor international rankings that our universities get. With a proper strategy in place, research quality should be brought on par with that of the developed countries.

A regulatory body should randomly pick up degree-awarded theses of our universities and send them for examination by a foreign professor who should be randomly chosen. The university should not be allowed to choose an examiner on its own since such selection can be self-serving, as we are seeing; for example, the foreign professors to whom our universities are sending theses for examination are just descendants of our own system and they are just a part of 'mutual admiration' cliche. They don't critique the theses objectively, obviously because they too are a products of the same system.

India should maintain a large of panel of foreign professors ( also some Indian professors too from reputed institutes of India) who should be randomly assigned with examining the quality of theses produced by Indian universities.

There are of course some good universities in India too which maintain good research standards but they are just islands.

India should come out of this sad pickle wherein Ph Ds are just capable of working as clerks, attendants, entry level jobs only.

Prof. Appalayya Meesala, Ph. D.
Director
Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Institute of Management & Technology
Baghlingampally
Hyderabad- 500044
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Mobile: 0- 9848514011
Our college website: www.ambedkarcollege.com
My personal website: mbaphd.in

Contact me for help on: Research Design, Survey Data Analysis, Ph. D. issues, Research Article Editing, and Training in R, SPSS, and AMOS..

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