I have no special comments save your views/arguments indicate ground realities of HE in India. We have hardly understood/digested the real concepts/philosophy of engineering and management education. And so also the PIOs who look at the Indian HE through Western eyes without realizing the Indian environment.
From: VIJAY CHAITANYAM <vijaysamala@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Management education has failed in India: Nirmalya Kumar
Dear Sir,
Greetings. Of the Day!!
Just for esteem members info -
Mr. Nirmalya Kumar has put his papers along with N.S.Rajan and Madhu Kannan to the Tata Group.
GEC has been dismantled on 24/10/2016.
Mr. N.Kumar comments Education system has failed in India. It surprises me because in his entire tenure he would have not spoken to NON IIT or an NON IIM.
Under their Helm of affairs (the above mentioned three Gentlemen) could any Engineering Graduate or Post Graduate rankers from Osmania University or JNTU of Hyderabad could get an entry in to the middle level Management of the group companies. The Answer is simply 'NO'.
Who has failed education system in India???
In my personal opinion the IIT and IIM - today IIT ian with an IIM MBA is consider as Demi God. He has the Privilege to enter directly to Sr.Level.
Mr Kumar himself mentions that selection examination process has no relevance to what he studies or to the fact Job that the student chooses as his job.
Again in my opinion he lacks empathy due to bookish knowledge and very far from reality. Few are always an exception - they are Navratnas - but Majority lack basic ground reality.
In Management I did not understand one thing how an Engg graduate with an MBA has more problem solving skills than a non Engg graduate because for any organisation it is not mathematical problems they are human problems.
No analytics are required just compassion - empathy and human touch.
Rest as prevails is our education system is known to all members.
Good Day Folks,
@VijayChaitanyam.
With Regards,
Vijay Chaitanyam Kumar Samala.
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Greetings. Of the Day!!
Just for esteem members info -
Mr. Nirmalya Kumar has put his papers along with N.S.Rajan and Madhu Kannan to the Tata Group.
GEC has been dismantled on 24/10/2016.
Mr. N.Kumar comments Education system has failed in India. It surprises me because in his entire tenure he would have not spoken to NON IIT or an NON IIM.
Under their Helm of affairs (the above mentioned three Gentlemen) could any Engineering Graduate or Post Graduate rankers from Osmania University or JNTU of Hyderabad could get an entry in to the middle level Management of the group companies. The Answer is simply 'NO'.
Who has failed education system in India???
In my personal opinion the IIT and IIM - today IIT ian with an IIM MBA is consider as Demi God. He has the Privilege to enter directly to Sr.Level.
Mr Kumar himself mentions that selection examination process has no relevance to what he studies or to the fact Job that the student chooses as his job.
Again in my opinion he lacks empathy due to bookish knowledge and very far from reality. Few are always an exception - they are Navratnas - but Majority lack basic ground reality.
In Management I did not understand one thing how an Engg graduate with an MBA has more problem solving skills than a non Engg graduate because for any organisation it is not mathematical problems they are human problems.
No analytics are required just compassion - empathy and human touch.
Rest as prevails is our education system is known to all members.
Good Day Folks,
@VijayChaitanyam.
With Regards,
Vijay Chaitanyam Kumar Samala.
9493979967 // 9246559095
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From: Prof. Bholanath Dutta
Sent: 30-10-2016 20:51
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Subject: [MTC Global] Management education has failed in India: Nirmalya Kumar
The traditional model of management education that has been practised in the country for decades has failed to serve its purpose, says Nirmalya Kumar, 56, member of the group executive council at Tata Sons, the holding company of the $108-billion, salt-to-software conglomerate.
This is evident from the massive outflow of management students seeking admission in foreign universities each year and the low level of internationally published research papers emanating from Indian business schools, adds Kumar, who is regarded as one of the world's leading management thinkers.
But green shoots of change are visible in the way management education is imparted in the country, with the arrival of some new-age business schools that appreciate the need of global managers for global businesses. In an interview, Kumar tells Forbes India that top management institutes here need to change their enrolment strategy and even hire teachers who have trained at top global institutions by offering them competitive salaries.
Edited excerpts:
In a sense, management education has failed in the country. Otherwise, so many people wouldn't be leaving the country to study abroad. We don't see too many Americans, Germans or Japanese students leaving their home countries to pursue higher studies.
Then comes the aspect of building world-class institutions. None of the Indian universities features among the top 200 in the World University Rankings (brought out by Times Higher Education). If you look at research, the entire universe of Indian faculty across management schools has together published less papers in leading international journals than I have over the course of my career. And I wasn't even the most productive in the world.
So business schools in India, especially the IIMs (Indian Institutes of Management), are stuck in the pre-1991 mentality, which is very much about controlling the supply of students that enter these schools and graduate each year, since there is no dearth of demand.
In that sense, these institutes function more like selection agencies who, through the entrance process, do a pre-selection of brilliant students for potential recruiters to choose from. The intellectual processing that they do with these students over the course of the academic tenure becomes irrelevant.
This model doesn't serve the country since those who can afford it prefer to study abroad and the intelligent ones get a scholarship. A majority of the remaining students are served by low-quality management schools that have sprung up across the country. They get a degree in business education from these colleges, but it has no value.
This is evident from the massive outflow of management students seeking admission in foreign universities each year and the low level of internationally published research papers emanating from Indian business schools, adds Kumar, who is regarded as one of the world's leading management thinkers.
But green shoots of change are visible in the way management education is imparted in the country, with the arrival of some new-age business schools that appreciate the need of global managers for global businesses. In an interview, Kumar tells Forbes India that top management institutes here need to change their enrolment strategy and even hire teachers who have trained at top global institutions by offering them competitive salaries.
Edited excerpts:
In a sense, management education has failed in the country. Otherwise, so many people wouldn't be leaving the country to study abroad. We don't see too many Americans, Germans or Japanese students leaving their home countries to pursue higher studies.
Then comes the aspect of building world-class institutions. None of the Indian universities features among the top 200 in the World University Rankings (brought out by Times Higher Education). If you look at research, the entire universe of Indian faculty across management schools has together published less papers in leading international journals than I have over the course of my career. And I wasn't even the most productive in the world.
So business schools in India, especially the IIMs (Indian Institutes of Management), are stuck in the pre-1991 mentality, which is very much about controlling the supply of students that enter these schools and graduate each year, since there is no dearth of demand.
In that sense, these institutes function more like selection agencies who, through the entrance process, do a pre-selection of brilliant students for potential recruiters to choose from. The intellectual processing that they do with these students over the course of the academic tenure becomes irrelevant.
This model doesn't serve the country since those who can afford it prefer to study abroad and the intelligent ones get a scholarship. A majority of the remaining students are served by low-quality management schools that have sprung up across the country. They get a degree in business education from these colleges, but it has no value.
[Source: Forbes India]
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