RE: [ACEsthetics] 40 year old thumb sucker

In Georgia, every preacher ordained, whether it be by The Cherry Street Churches Of Bishop Hightower or the First United Methodist Church has the right to be a counselor. My wife and I were battling two of our kids at once and decided maybe some family dynamic counseling would help. We went to the local mental health center and asked for references. Our kids were teenagers. We were referred to a church in a nearby community. The kids made the counselor look like a damned fool. Of course they were much smarter than the preacher.

Later in life I ran into a REAL counselor. My first trip to the psychiatrist was a bit terrifying as you can imagine because I’d self-referred. They had called and tried to change the appt because of a family emergency with the Doc. They said I could see Mary. You absolutely could not lie to this wonderful lady. She never could remember a name but she knew her clinical psychology. I remember she asked me if I was drinking too much. No. Dr. Moorman, I’m going to ask that question again and let’s see if we can get a bit closer to the truth. Well, yea. Dr. Moorman do you fly off the handle easily. Well, not easily. We’ll take that as a yes. I loved that lady.

We later carried our daughter who was battling life with an abusive boyfriend and my wife was trying to save his life or knees. My daughter refused to talk to Mary. Mary told her that was perfectly fine but she was coming down every Tuesday and Thursday for an hour and sitting in that room and she was not leaving her room at home until a dialogue started between the two of them. Took two weeks. A great lady. I only saw her that once because she said I needed meds and I’d have to see Dr. Johnson…a great Southern gentleman who I miss terribly.

Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.

The Swamp

Douglas, GA 31533

912-384-7400

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From: Ashley Goodman [mailto:agoodman@agoodmandds.com]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:15 PM
To: acesthetics@googlegroups.com
Cc: Guy Moorman; drtimhale@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] 40 year old thumb sucker

Sorry, I forgot that there are some states who certify individuals who are ill prepared to do psych Tx as psychologists. I've had some in my classes and they come in with their own agenda that all problems are religion based and once someone finds that individuals "God", all will be right. I even had one (Removed by hotel security) who kept saying loudly over and over that we were doing the devil's work with hypnosis.

This isn't a rant against religion! These "therapists" do a great deal of harm to their clients who need care by someone who is properly trained in psychology (Rather than theology), unbiased, and patient problem based. One of the best qualified therapists I know is a good friend and a Catholic priest. Religion doesn't have to be an obstacle to what's best for the patient and can more easily allow faster and better re-framing for the appropriate patient/clients. It may be part of necessary treatment, but not THE Tx for every patient.

I'm walking a very fine semantic line here. I'm not meaning this as an anti-religion rant, merely that some ill trained "psychotherapists" are certified by states with having less than the necessary proper patient based situational training in true psychology care. I understand why this happens in many states and that it is purely political necessity in some areas, but when you come in contact with some of these "trained licensed professionals" there's no better way to describe them other than as pure idiots on a mission (pun intended this time).

Guy is absolutely right. At least with a psychiatrist you have a health provider with some medical training.

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Ash

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Ashley Goodman, DDS

8736 Lake Murray Blvd.#108

San Diego, Ca 92119

Phone:  619-697-6677

Fax:  619-697-6632

Email: agoodman@agoodmandds.com

Web:  www.agoodmandds.com

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On 6/1/2012 3:31 AM, Guy Moorman wrote:

You have to find a good therapist. The best place to start for that is with a psychiatrist. If not you have to sort through 600 religious healers first.

Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.

The Swamp

Douglas, GA 31533

912-384-7400

From: Ashley Goodman [mailto:agoodman@agoodmandds.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:21 AM
To: gmoor@windstream.net
Cc: drtimhale@gmail.com; ACEsthetics@GoogleGroups.com
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] 40 year old thumb sucker

Rather than a psychiatrist, I'd recommend a psychologist who is also capable with hypnosis.

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Ash

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Ashley Goodman, DDS

8736 Lake Murray Blvd.#108

San Diego, Ca 92119

Phone:  619-697-6677

Fax:  619-697-6632

Email: agoodman@agoodmandds.com

Web:  www.agoodmandds.com

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On 5/31/2012 4:10 AM, Guy Moorman wrote:

No, it is a powerful addiction to some people. My wife sucked her thumb until she was sixteen and still goes to sleep with her thumb in fist next to her face. She no longer sucks it but it is like me and tobacco. Put one in my mouth and I’m buying two cases. This may take a therapist. Jeanette beat it herself with a tremendous willpower but not before forming that deep narrow vault. She one of the few people who it adds to their looks but most women will quit because of the facial form.

I would recommend find a good psychiatrist who can find the specific therapist. She is very likely going to need that at 40 years of age.

Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.

The Swamp

Douglas, GA 31533

912-384-7400

From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Tim Hale
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:32 AM
To: ACEsthetics@GoogleGroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [ACEsthetics] 40 year old thumb sucker

Gosh there is a joke some where in here......................

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From: Dr. Stanley M. Levenson D.M.D. <levensonsmile@msn.com>
Date: Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:26 AM
Subject: [ACEsthetics] 40 year old thumb sucker
To: ACE <ACEsthetics@googlegroups.com>

A new female patient has moderate bone loss and some mobility around number 9. She admitted that she is a thumb sucker. I cannot fix her perio until I control the trauma. Any suggestions to control this 40 year old habit?

Stanley M. Levenson DMD
9 Linden St.
Worcester, Ma.01609
508-753-3105
levensonsmile@msn.com
levensonsmile.com

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